― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link
plus, i get a kick out of incorporating speech patterns into text, which is why i use "alla", "gunna", "I'ma", etc.
― kingfish fucked up his login (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 19 August 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
you're going too far, still
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Friday, 19 August 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Friday, 19 August 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link
See, the thing is that he would probably like being called these names.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link
what term SHOULD be employed when referring to the current commander-in-chief?
― kingfish fucked up his login (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Moving along, I've just read the 9-11 Commission Report, and can report that government employess pepper their speech with an unhealthy number of sports eulogisms. I've just returned the book to the library, so can't unpack all of the gems, but first and foremost, our Preznit (in defereence to N/A) expressing dissatisfaction with the early geopolitical politics: "I'm tired of playing offense, I want to play defense." Ha ha, I can just hear him saying that with a bit of a whine. Anyway, so many other CIA/FBI/Condi-types also reverted to these type of anologies when discussing world-wide matters of tremendous import. It made me happy that I haven't sought out a career as an operative.
― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 20 August 2005 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 20 August 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Saturday, 20 August 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 20 August 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway the quite intelligent and eloquent Nabisco said:If these students had spoken, say, Spanish, their teachers would have been given money and time to concentrate on bringing them up to speed with standard English.
Ahhh-hahaha. As a former teacher of both documented ESL students and non-documented "BVE" students I can say that teachers are provided with neither time and money to teach either. Perhaps, though, this is because I live and taught in Texas. . .
My ESL kids (and I had every single one of them in the school, me, the least experienced in the Language Arts dept.) were one of the six groups whose test performance determined our school's rating by the state. Said rating determined school funding and teacher raises. Some of the other groups included "at-risk" and "below federal poverty-line". I feel safe in asserting all of my "BVE" students fell into one of the latter two categories.
Bottom line. . .each group of students had the same extent of ground to cover in learning standard English. However the ESL students had a much greater cultural motive. They were largely first- and second-generation immigrants and becoming bilingual was very important to them. My African-American students rarely left the neighborhood unless it was to go to S1x Flags. They didn't really see the point in learning to make subjects and verbs agree since the only people they knew who talked that way were teachers and judges. And besides their cousin went to community college and she only got her GED.
America is a very soul-crushing place.
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
exactly!
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd like to point out I only know this b/c of the band with the "Lump" song b/c they also had a song called "Kitty" which I liked quite a bit. . .
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Shrubya.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 20 August 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 20 August 2005 06:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 20 August 2005 06:45 (nineteen years ago) link
ding ding ding. okay, this wins.
― kingfish fucked up his login (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 20 August 2005 07:01 (nineteen years ago) link
Except no English person pronounces them that way (er, so how do Yanks pronounce ""Emma Bunton"" exactly?). Otherwise I agree with you.
Definitely Grand Pree and Byerk, but then again Craft Work. But pronouncing all foreign, especially French, words and names with really emphasising the accent ("A Year in Prov-ONCCCE") is just such a middle-class affectation. Calling a restaurant a rest-eau-ROOONHHH and so on. Jeh-rarrhd Deh-pAH-DEUUUHHHH. Boo-lehh-VAHHHHHHDEUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...I mean, fucking hell...
― David Merryweather Goes To Far (scarlet), Saturday, 20 August 2005 09:13 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.bschool.nus.edu.sg/staff/bizcjh/movie_files/image141.jpg
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 20 August 2005 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link
my personal rule is: say what is funniest at the time of saying (eg GRAND PRICKS is ALWAYS FUNNY!) (= they are knobheads who drives cars fast and WHO CARES!)
"restaurant" = "ress-tront"also from now on: BESSMENT JOCKS
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 20 August 2005 09:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― OleM (OleM), Saturday, 20 August 2005 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 20 August 2005 09:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Steve.n. (sjkirk), Saturday, 20 August 2005 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link
I met a girl recently who always says this! I love her to death, but it's starting to annoy me!!! She always tries to make some kind of "mama" joke after it. oh..........
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 20 August 2005 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Saturday, 20 August 2005 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link
(in critical/cultural discourse following assertion "X is true...")
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 20 August 2005 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link
(au courant journalistic convenience for making contrived conclusion read like casual observation)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 20 August 2005 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 20 August 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 20 August 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 20 August 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
"Not for nuthin'"When used as a preface, this can be translated as: "although my next comment comes unsolicited, please pay attention because it is germane to the topic at hand."IE "Not for nuthin, but nobody wears acid wash jeans anymore."
"The City"Referring to New York City"You going into the city tonight?"
But the worst, which isn't just in NJ, is when people misuse the term "penultimate." It's not a larger, more powerful version of ultimate. You can't say, "Dude, Eruption is the penultimate guitar solo." Penultimate means second to last. So while you can say "There's only one burger left, I just ate the penultimate one," you cannot say "That burger is so good, it's the penultimate burger."
― Anyone For Newcomb?, Saturday, 20 August 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 20 August 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Sunday, 21 August 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 August 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
note: with Howard Stern being nationally syndicated for years, he's helped plenty of NY/NJ speech patterns spread across the land. This phrase is one of 'em.
― kingfish fucked up his login (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 21 August 2005 00:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 21 August 2005 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Sunday, 21 August 2005 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link
I think this is pretty common!
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 21 August 2005 07:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 21 August 2005 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 21 August 2005 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 21 August 2005 08:04 (nineteen years ago) link
the penultimate one = there is more to come which may be better = you are shivery w.hot anticipation = better than the ultimate one
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 21 August 2005 08:41 (nineteen years ago) link