also a fan of when zynnia shouts "LIVE VICARIOUSLY THROUGH ME AND MY FAMILY!"
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:58 (fourteen years ago)
lol otm
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:01 (fourteen years ago)
OUT: dance momsIN: video moms
so far, my favorite Mindvalley product is QUANTUM JUMPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just watch this interview Vishen did at the home of Burt Goldman, developer of the Quantum Jumping method:
http://www.quantumjumping.com/special/meet-burt-goldmanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBTmeK52xec
1) count how many times they mention money2) be sure to watch till 6:43. I promise you won't be disappointed.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:02 (fourteen years ago)
i bet you guys are doubling the view count on all of Zynnia's videos right now
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:03 (fourteen years ago)
quaNTUM JUmping
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:08 (fourteen years ago)
two phrases came into his head the first was PLANT YOURSELF the second was Take lots of pictures
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:09 (fourteen years ago)
heads up, y'all: 2012 will not be the end of the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTsKRAHqrf0
bonus copping of 99% jargon
also:http://i.imgur.com/mFViR.png
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:10 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/RNYEY.png
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:11 (fourteen years ago)
i was forced (along with my workmates) to attend a customized motivational seminar once. we managed to completely sabotage it -- i think i made one of the two seminar leaders cry. i am not ashamed. these folks are the lowest of the low, occupying a totally unnecessary niche opened up by the worst tendencies of corporate culture and "self-actualization" rhetoric.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:11 (fourteen years ago)
can you remember who the speaker was?????
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:12 (fourteen years ago)
"I'm in the process of both expanding and contracting my business."
Trans: "I am in a constant state of starting up new concerns, hoping the IRS wont catch me when I declare bankruptcy on the old ones"
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:14 (fourteen years ago)
xpost
no they were nobodies... folks that were routinely hired by the business school of the university where i worked to provide "teamwork seminars" for different groups. i wasn't in the business school but i guess our boss decided to try them out.
IIRC one of the two speakers was trying to get us to learn about "optimizing teamwork" based on lessons from ... wait for it... people who "successfully" survived the holocaust. i interrupted him and told him that i couldn't leave the seminar because i was being paid to attend but that he would not be continuing this line of discussion.
he looked sort of lost, looked at the other speaker who nodded, then he kind of hung his shoulders and stepped aside for the next part of the seminar.
the head of my department, who arranged the seminar, was mortified.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:16 (fourteen years ago)
"I personally dont believe 2012 will be the end of the world"
WOW AMAZING!~!!!! D:
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:17 (fourteen years ago)
i got a lot of high-fives from coworkers the next day, though.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:17 (fourteen years ago)
IIRC one of the two speakers was trying to get us to learn about "optimizing teamwork" based on lessons from ... wait for it... people who "successfully" survived the holocaust.
oh my god
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:18 (fourteen years ago)
guys there are also endless amounts of "video cover letters" from people applying for a job at Mindvalley©
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqUP9jgACAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCNEvMNCU1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISBkiVpjXXM&
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:19 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah wow amst that is... I'm gobsmacked.
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:19 (fourteen years ago)
I mean I thought the motivational bullshit day my old workplace pulled on us once was in bad taste (they themed it on "Survivor" the TV show - the week my entire team had been told we were being laid off!).
But that just... wow.
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:20 (fourteen years ago)
amateurist that is A+ work
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:21 (fourteen years ago)
yeah. for a guy who was ostensibly a "motivational" speaker he seemed pretty weak and demoralized. i think i ruined his week. i would've felt bad if his presentation wasn't so egregiously offensive.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:21 (fourteen years ago)
this stuff is just megachurches but on a smaller screen and without the vestigial jesus part
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:26 (fourteen years ago)
Mindvalley staff group photo
http://i.imgur.com/fPdKM.jpg
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:30 (fourteen years ago)
^all of these people live & work in Kuala Lumpur
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:31 (fourteen years ago)
the new series "young, attractive, and profoundly flaky" debuts on bravo this saturday!
anyway...
i forgot the other good part of my motivational seminar experience.
one part of the seminar was devoted to a "game" in which we were given note cards, and asked to write--anonymously-- one instance of "positive reinforcement" and one "constructive criticism" of each of our coworkers.
some of my coworkers refused the participate. i should have but decided just to do the "positive reinforcement" part.
some of the "constructive criticism" read like poison pen letters: "beth really has an attitude." "i don't think jeff is any good at his job." "i feel like jeremy is constantly talking down to people."
it made at least one of my coworkers cry. and it ended in a general uproar with us asking the "motivational" speakers for their credentials and wondering aloud how many times they had done this before.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:33 (fourteen years ago)
so basically, if you see a motivational speaker walking down the street, just go ahead and cold cock him or her. you will do the human race a great service.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:34 (fourteen years ago)
lol now i want a comedic series based based on motivational speakers in the style of Party Down
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:39 (fourteen years ago)
that pic looks like a "yelp elite event"
― omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:39 (fourteen years ago)
xpost. just getting a total amway vibe from this awesomefest/mindvalley thing. create a culture where you're special (attracting lost souls, of course = easy marks), using gurus to lead you to The Secret of personal fulfillment (making money, somehow), create a fraudulent presentation that being an affiliate will make you lots of it, with only a tiny chance of that happening.
amway's way creepier, but seems like the same basic deal ... deluding poor souls into parting with their money and getting them to shell out more. Mindvalley/Awesomefest seems linked to The Secret somehow. This is actually pretty interesting.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:42 (fourteen years ago)
my friend just got fired from his job working as a lifecoach
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:43 (fourteen years ago)
rather, working for a lifecoach
lol i was gonna say
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:44 (fourteen years ago)
Several people who appeared/starred in The Secret have spoken at Awesomeness Fest
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:45 (fourteen years ago)
seminar as placebo effect
― omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:45 (fourteen years ago)
so much shame in that room...
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:47 (fourteen years ago)
part of an email friend got back when trying to get paid for the two weeks before he was fired:
On an practical and business front. Since you were hired on as a subcontractor in the get go and that from the outset we were going to take a look a few months down the road as to how we were to proceed, I feel as though that has come to fruition. And although the review of things did not look like we both thought it was going to, both initially and according to where we were playing weeks before christmas, it happened the way it did. In my mind it occurred and adjusted to suit the situation and position I found myself in (with complete commitment to not doing another thing that looked like it did prior to that moment). Although that might be hard to explain, interpret or understand, things like this happen for some of us and there is a watershed and things change overnight. It did, there's no other explanation or rationale.
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:50 (fourteen years ago)
holy shit
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:51 (fourteen years ago)
honestly that is the freakiest thing about this phenomenon to me, the way it seems to curdle people's ability to use language properly. a college roommate got really into the landmark forum and it was like she just spoke gibberish all the time suddenly.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:55 (fourteen years ago)
i have a couple of friends who got into landmark forum and invited me to join a writer's group they were putting together, and i realized about three meetings in i was accidentally getting landmarked.
― omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:56 (fourteen years ago)
i quit before we went to "cafe gratitude"
A BREAKDOWN OF A LIFECOACH:
Here's the first email my friend got from the dude:
This is the start of something big and quite frankly something never before developed or experienced on the face of this planet.What we will accomplish together will be directly downloaded from Source and put into practice by You and Me.It will change not only our lives but the world as we know it and expand all that is from this moment forward.I am excited, enthusiastic and looking very much forward to our creation of team and moving this into action.
Welcome!
Here's the last email friend got from the dude:
I am simply not ready to move forward with my business endeavors at this point.Everyday I wonder when and if it will surge but to date I am simply disinterested in reentering into "business as usual" again.It is actually repulsive to me at the moment and thus keeping me from engaging in anything that resembles what we were doing prior to years end.
I am not exactly sure what else to say as a result of the experience I am having.I suppose we can go through the week from my standpoint and see what occurs and because I have no idea when this experience I am having will change, I can not predict the outcome and really have no desire to do that anyway.
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:57 (fourteen years ago)
funny thing is the most landmarky of that group really DID write in total bizarre gibberish
― omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:57 (fourteen years ago)
in his defense the only reason the friend worked for the dude was to get some money after travelling a bunch and ending up back in his home state
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:59 (fourteen years ago)
In my mind it occurred and adjusted to suit the situation and position I found myself in (with complete commitment to not doing another thing that looked like it did prior to that moment).
http://images.wikia.com/characters/images/3/35/Norman-bates.gif
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:59 (fourteen years ago)
but still it was a p horrible idea
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 07:00 (fourteen years ago)
can we call awesomefest Burning Mind
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 07:03 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ "Burning Mind"
omar/horseshoe: i am unfamiliar with landmark!!!! enlighten me!!
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:05 (fourteen years ago)
so much shame in that room...― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:47 PM (1 hour ago)
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:47 PM (1 hour ago)
feel like we could do a whole ws of shame pollthread w/ this page:
http://www.awesomenessfest.com/meet-the-tribe/
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:21 (fourteen years ago)
xp This Observer article (yeh, lol observer, but still . . . ) seems an even-handed write-up.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/dec/14/ameliahill.theobserver
It makes the whole thing sound like the plot of Good Will Hunting.
― get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:28 (fourteen years ago)
i have a coworker who spends all his vacation days flying to like new zealand and places for life coach training, but i have tried to avoid the subject because he's a bit of a talker and also i kind of enjoy the insane ambition of the term LIFE COACH devoid of whatever weird 10-step literature goes along with it, especially since dude is such just a regular ho-hum guy. it's so weird to think that he could be another guy's life coach, i don't know.
― rent, Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:29 (fourteen years ago)
I shared that with a friend and half an hour later she had a link to the Leverage Discord. I'm afraid to join but so curious
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:59 (three years ago)
from what I can tell he has rebranded and maybe relaunched this organization? it's very weird to me. this isn't NXIVM level shit yet, that I can tell (no branding of sex slaves; some reports of inappropriate 'workplace' relationships though), but it's close, with the packed calendars, continual 'debugging' (think scientology and auditing, or NXIVM's "EM"s), psychological manipulation. Who is funding this shit? Silicon Valley VCs.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:53 (three years ago)
I stumbled on this stuff the weirdest way. Berkeley is introducing a new Mental Health Crisis team (like, half a day, 4 days a week, who can deal with something like 3 calls a day). Berkeley has like, a LOT of mentally ill people on the streets in crisis any time of the day. I hate people who comment on Berkeleyside and Berkeleyscanner, but someone did point a link to this article about someone who had a psychotic episode in a restaurant and then physically attacked the crisis worker who came (alone?) in her car. this was in 2017. This is the original story:
https://www.berkeleyside.org/2017/04/25/update-city-mental-health-worker-strangled-choked-carjacking-outside-whole-foods
I looked this guy up and he got 5 years. I found his name linked in a lesswrong post calling out abuses related to two orgs, CFAR and MIRI. He basically was somehow associated with MIRI (I believe) and cracked up.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pQGFeKvjydztpgnsY/occupational-infohazards
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:59 (three years ago)
I heard about LessWrong when Decoding The Gurus recently ran an episode about Eliezer Yudkowksy. There's a definite infohazard self-sealing cult-thought to their writings and I'm troubled at how popular it all is amongst AI researchers.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 September 2023 06:09 (three years ago)
wow @that medium link“3. Geoff estimated that there were roughly 10 “super weapons” or “super theories.” He said we already had 1–2, one being we had solved philosophy (but not completely, he admitted — all he had left to do was prove that time exists and maybe a few other details, was what I remember him saying).”
― brimstead, Friday, 8 September 2023 06:17 (three years ago)
Big echoes of scientology
"The explicit strategy for world-saving depended upon a team of highly moldable young people self-transforming into Elon Musks. For a long time, what was asked of me in order to maintain my funding was to “become a self-debugger”
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 September 2023 06:25 (three years ago)
researching who funds this stuff I ran across this: https://survivalandflourishing.fund
which got funding from:
https://saveourplanet.org/projects/survival-and-flourishing/#:~:text=We%20currently%20serve%20as%20volunteers,administer%20grants%20from%20funding%20provided
though oddly, I only found that link by googling, it's been taken off the saveourplanet.org navigation. NGO that seems otherwise benign. But these other groups smell.... nazi adjacent to me. Dunno. Lotta white dudes who think they are destined to save the earth.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 8 September 2023 06:46 (three years ago)
Twin Flames documentary on Netflix is great.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 19 November 2023 02:50 (two years ago)
a pretty good rule of thumb is to ignore anyone who calls themself a "life coach" afaict
― shaking babies (map), Sunday, 4 October 2026 20:30 (one month ago)
hey how else am i supposed to tell ppl what to do with their lives while experiencing no professional licensing repercussions if i do anything unethical?
― PBUH bryson (m bison), Sunday, 4 October 2026 22:42 (one month ago)
this was inspired by seeing a suggested post by some "gay life coach" leading with "authenticity is overrated." well yeah, if i want to be a borderline scammer like you mang. these kinds of people always have advanced skin care routines and seem to have perfected the thousand-yard i-do-a-lot-of-ketamine stare. which somehow leads to money. they're money lizards.
― shaking babies (map), Sunday, 4 October 2026 22:47 (one month ago)
i heard some stories about a local "gay life coach" who i met once at the gym, the kind of person who is a walking smile. a friend of mine, who was outed as gay late in life while faking his married with kids mormon picture perfect surface existence, and who still has a lot of problems with integrity, kind of fell in with said life coach, whose name is w1ll 3dg3l. mr. 3dg3l leads retreats that as far as i can tell ensnare gay men who still have strong emotional and psychological ties to the lds church. they do very weird things that are described as "healing" that only serve to enhance repression afaict. sometimes it seems like if you have the right persona, the right image, and tell people it costs 700 dollars to spend some time with you, you can easily just become a professional leech.
― shaking babies (map), Sunday, 4 October 2026 22:59 (one month ago)
My friend who was into self-help and motivational posters now sends me Instagram reels from people who say “neurospicy” with a straight face.
― Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Monday, 5 October 2026 01:19 (one month ago)
i'm rebranding and now advertising my services as a "creativity doula"
― mh, Monday, 5 October 2026 14:09 (one month ago)
lol
― Art Cow (Cow_Art), Monday, 5 October 2026 17:13 (one month ago)
a literal court jester for fortune 500 a suites.
― shaking babies (map^2), Monday, 5 October 2026 18:12 (one month ago)