❀ the cult of: ➥motivational speakers ➥life coaches ➥personal growth gurus ➥new-age charlatans ➥AWESOMENESS FEST

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is mindvalley really a front for a bond villain who surrounds himself w/ beautiful women à la on her majesty's secret service?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

no, for sure that was my question. but all the people he's interacting with who are also looking to connect -- are they these people? more desperate versions of these people? like, there's a hierarchy, right? with the attractive looking people at the well-designed website mindvalley on top and BH connects kinda working around the dregs at the bottom?

― Mordy, Thursday, February 2, 2012 5:01 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, if i had to guess, i would say whoever is behind Bill is fascinated with the way that that ideal elitism has trickled down to the lost souls trying their best to just figure out facebook let alone how SEO marketing or Personal Growth products work

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link

and then obviously the whole "there for the whole world to see" part

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/TcAnD.png

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

oh no!!!

http://www.beingawesomeisawesomefest.com/

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link

Being in the Being Awesome is Awesome fest is Awesome!

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link

A GATHERING OF 100+ PEOPLE WHO ARE SELF-DECLARED AS AWESOME.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

saw a really amazing doco on tv a couple of years ago called 'beyond our ken', about an aussie self-help org called kenja. they looked pretty innocuous on the surface - their technique was basically just one-on-one meditation - but it slowly unwrapped the seedier stuff like unstable people getting kicked from the group disappearing, and the leader getting charged with sexual assault against female group members (including teen girls). it peaks with him snapping out of charming leader type into volcanic rage at the filmmaker for ten minutes - it's incredible to watch. the guy shot himself ten days before the doco's premiere at the melb film festival. maybe more actual cult material than the rest of this thread but def worth seeing.

the Landshark Forum (haitch), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

Nudism and orgone energy have sure come a long way since the 1920s!

Aimless, Friday, 3 February 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

kept on noticing how much the cute girl in the above vid was talking about working with "leaders" or "really smart people" over and over (and obv how awesomeness fest is invite only)--like i gather this is designed to *look* like it appeals to management types who are really striving (tho probably actually takes advantage of ppl who are a lot more desperate). like if ron donald worked for an internet marketing company.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:53 PM (1 minute ago)

otm, its almost like Awesomeness Fest is more of an advertisement for Mindvalley instead of a legit annual conference

― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:58 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

get the feeling that these people really believe theyre associating w/the best minds of their generation, in general they seem to believe everything, deep self delusion as con idk

lag∞n, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's otm

really wonder who isn't "in on it" tho. it all seems like they've culted each other out somehow. the whole vibe/ideology of it is so seamless, like i find it hard to believe that even the ringleader awesome guy is like "heh these suckers, ok bring on the chicks"

but i dunno much about cults i guess

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link

there's probably a double consciousness at work

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

really wonder who isn't "in on it" tho. it all seems like they've culted each other out somehow. the whole vibe/ideology of it is so seamless, like i find it hard to believe that even the ringleader awesome guy is like "heh these suckers, ok bring on the chicks"

i was just sating this to deej. imo everyone learns from everyone else how to behave... i seriously think there might not be anyone meeting behind closed doors going "ok here's how you screw people"

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's otm

really wonder who isn't "in on it" tho. it all seems like they've culted each other out somehow. the whole vibe/ideology of it is so seamless, like i find it hard to believe that even the ringleader awesome guy is like "heh these suckers, ok bring on the chicks"

but i dunno much about cults i guess

― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:14 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i think it's gotta be 100% self-deluding if this is your full-time job

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link

this is pretty off topic, but Ariel White is in a few of these ppl's youtubes:

http://www.tantratheater.tv/index.html

o_O

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link

grady for design alone you really should have put some kind of warning on that link

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

lol

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

okay that is literally the most disgusting thing i have ever seen on the internet.

like Amy Winehouse (not how should looks currently, obviously) (NZA), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

and i've seen tubgirl

like Amy Winehouse (not how should looks currently, obviously) (NZA), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

This evening I had the bittersweet honor of giving a Eulogy. My dear friends Kim Heil and Chris Rubino died in a car accident on their way home from a Cuddle Party TM lead by Valerie in Joshua Tree on Feb. 16th 2009.

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link

whdjkdfkl;dfjkaDKL;jksdla;fjkl

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

i feel like the human mind is complex and can sustain two seemingly contradictory beliefs at once, or perhaps in alternation, while repressing the cognitive dissonance. so maybe some of these folks _both_ understand they are ripping people off _and_ believe they are helping people.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link

i think they just think they've found an awesome way to make money and feel great and avoid asking hard questions

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

lmao chuck going all media crit on shaq

lag∞n, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

lol sry romg thread

lag∞n, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link

A Goddess discovers her energetic lingam in this personal narrative written and performed by tantra teacher Ariel White and directed by Kamala Devi of the San Diego Tantra Theater Troupe

Lingbert. In India, "ling" means penis (big or small).
― Akansha, Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:35 AM (5 years ago)

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link

i cant even:

Michael McClure AKA "Eco Elf" is an environmental comedian, writer, speaker and shaman. He often builds the set and runs the lighting for the show.

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link

well it depends on the nature of the scheme. i'm sure some are like that, but others -- especially those who propose to have discovered methods of levitating or "quantum jumping" or whatnot -- probably are aware, at some level and on some occasions, of the nature of what they are up to. but they've built their professional life in such a way that they can avoid being forced to confront this.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link

xxpost

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link

u think? i dunno, ppl are super deluded about a lot of thigns i guess

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:54 (twelve years ago) link

like im not sure i believe that on some level every cult leader/organizer is aware they're misleading ppl. i think ppl can convince themselves as well as they can convince others.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago) link

HE LEARNED PHOTOGRAPHY IN ONE WEEKEND IT IS REAL

lag∞n, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ll-lGmNjwmM/TL4bkxfwogI/AAAAAAAACAY/6CuwUuDm_xo/s200/TT+10+Brande.jpg
Goddess Brande Faris opened the show with her sultry voice and original song, "Hello & Welcome to Tantra."

like Amy Winehouse (not how should looks currently, obviously) (NZA), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://oi39.tinypic.com/219qa6v.jpg

i will see u later. (am0n), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:59 (twelve years ago) link

headexplode.gif

i will see u later. (am0n), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:00 (twelve years ago) link

lol i was gonna post that

buzza, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:01 (twelve years ago) link

i cant even:

Michael McClure AKA "Eco Elf" is an environmental comedian, writer, speaker and shaman. He often builds the set and runs the lighting for the show.

― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:48 PM

dying

i will see u later. (am0n), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:04 (twelve years ago) link

nooooo am0n i resisted posting that!

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link

'shaman' nonchalantly tacked on to the end of the list of titles

i will see u later. (am0n), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

i consider myself a nice person and i can generally get by in social situations but i srsly dont think i could spend 10 minutes in the company of these people

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.ecoelf.com/EcoElfTantraTheater.JPG

i will see u later. (am0n), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

xp mission accomplished, maybe someone will stop by

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link

Jim
05 March 07, 8:12pm
Guys – I have always found your blog very interesting and enjoy reading it.
However, I’m not sure about your new venture. Maybe I’m missing out on something but isn’t it a classic pyramid scheme? People are just getting rich by having affiliates and sub-affiliates sign up. I know they get a book, dvd, website, etc. but in the end, why isn’t it a pyramid scheme?

Mike
05 March 07, 8:41pm
Hi Jim,
The Secret is a phenomenal movie and the Secret Science of Getting Rich is a great product that can help people learn how to bring the law of attraction into their life.
It teaches you how to activate these universal laws in all areas of your life. The fact that you can make money with it online by promoting it is just an additional side benefit. It is a good one but if you don’t believe in the product, then don’t buy it.
People pay up to $10K to see Anthony Robbins speak for example and the SGR Product is one of the best personal improvement products I have come across.
Also, just about any online venture it has a two tiered affiliate system. Amazon has it, eBay has it, the list goes on. The Secret SGR program also uses a two tiered affiliate system and that is it.
So, please don’t confuse this with a pyramid scheme. That is very different and not something we would get involved with.

i will see u later. (am0n), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:11 (twelve years ago) link

Brian
17 September 08, 9:57am
“two tiered affiliate system.”
What does that mean? With Amazon, the affiliates are all selling different things. Seems that SGR affiliates will all be selling the same thing and eventually competing with each other on a massive scale that couldn’t achieve much success for anyone besides the earliest investors. Isn’t that the classic pyramid scheme. If not, please explain your two tiered system in more detail.

i will see u later. (am0n), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

there u go s1ocki

i will see u later. (am0n), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:13 (twelve years ago) link

Isn't that the classic pyramid scheme.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:14 (twelve years ago) link

welcome, hoos.

we've been expecting you.

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link


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