❀ the cult of: ➥motivational speakers ➥life coaches ➥personal growth gurus ➥new-age charlatans ➥AWESOMENESS FEST

did personal finance need to be gamified anymore than it was naturally?

My personal finance has no gamification.

Mine wasn't for a long time! It's just that you have to actually pay attention to things eventually for one reason or another (life changes make you have more expenses, unemployment happens, you realize you are not immortal and must save for retirement, etc.) and then people latch on to financial websites and management strategies and who knows what else.

To be honest, I just had a token amount thrown in savings and spent money like crazy for part of my mid 20s. I was lucky in that I didn't really go beyond my means, but a lot of people do that on credit.

People with credit debt + sudden lack of focus in life post wild 20s -> WHERE IS MY LIFE COACH

my mom is deep into this shit

I mostly don't care as long as I don't have to listen to any spiels about it

lol i was really hoping that would go to a youtube of your mom

irl lols at

Dear Mindvalley, You don't know who I am but I know who you are and I know what you done. You had sex with my mother and then you stole my dad's money all away.

@Mordy : when I ask about their jobs I usually get something along the lines of "i'm in online marketing and mindvalley is so awesommmeee"
@grady: parties with them are similar to parties with other people. never been to a party where it was only mindvalley so there were non cult people around and it seemed fine. they do like to mention once in a while that they had an awesome party at their office the other day and how u should def come and see us there.

the video that best encapsulates the way they envision their company and what they do is probably a day in the life of mindvalley (or smth like that) which shows u a day in their office and how great it is. actually, here's the link, dont forget to read the desscription just below the video :

youtube.com/watch?v=Kju_Qy7eLRc

something about how this stuff is about all of these concepts in the vaguest sense HEALTH, MONEY, HAPPINESS, SPIRIT etc, but like fanatically avoidant of, idk, anything a reasonable adult would feel s/he would have to content with in getting those things: work, politics, psychology, history, religion, family.

this is very OTM in my experience. whenever I have gotten into discussions/arguments with my mom about "evolutionary enlightenment" I tend to get bogged down in getting her to define her terms, because so much of the discourse is based in semi-nonsensical terminology. For ex., evolution has a distinct, scientific meaning, and Cohen would like to borrow the term's scientific weight and authority but then use it in a completely different, decontextualized way.

xp

to his credit, Cohen is not on the same money-making/ego-boosting schtick as most of the other guys discussed so far itt

so i started watching that vid klurker, but it didn't seem like anyone was actually doing anything so i gave up about 2 minutes in

u truly understood what it is they do there then. i always feel like they're not doing anything. except like give each other free hugs etc

klurker what is the context of the parties, though? I mean, is it like a friend's house party where you have a shared friend, or like a concert, or what?

Aw man free hugs and a paycheck, plus you get to do nothing? Putting some spit and polish on the old resume.

yeah, friend's house party or seeing them in a bar or club. nothing very much out of the ordinary really.
austerity ponies u better make an awesome video resume if u want to get in.

watched the vid

lots of women looking doe-eyed at gesticulating dudes writing on white boards

i hate it when i have to spend my hard earned money on hugs

I have monetized my hugs

klurker would it be to anyone's benefit to start a 77 thread for you?

who wants to self-actuate with me??

jus thinking abt how so many of these mindvalley wite girls mustve been wandering backpackers who found themselves in kuala lumpur and serendipitously hooked up w/mind valley which is the most incredible opportunity and isnt life amazing that way

ha grady. i just repeat what they say :) the other day on facebook some of them were saying it was international hug day so they were giving out hugs to everyone in the office.

xp to grady: nah i'm ok with staying on this account

also quite a lot of them actually got the job while still in europe and then moved here to kl. some found their job here tho.

I feel like these cults only get started because somebody wants to get w/ lots of hot chix

its true that that is the exclusive motivation for having a cult

tho its not just you want to get w/them, you want to have them

frankly who wouldnt want to own a bunch of naive wite girls

you guys!!!!! i found this podcast called EVERYTHING IS ENERGY that had Vishen as a guest 2 years ago:

mms://contacttalkradio.soundwaves2000.com/ctr/kristinmorelli050610.mp3
(Vishen comes in around 12:50)

the host cant get over how funny/awesome it is that his name sounds so similar to "Vision"

I haven't finished listening yet but holy shit he's talking about how he was a broke meditation teacher in NYC until he discovered AdWords, then he ended up on a homeland security no-fly list!!!!!!!!!!! that's why he moved to Malaysia!!!!! its like the quintessential 00's success story!!!!!

that would make a good movie actually

tbh i wouldnt be into it unless i could rock the 70s cult leader look w/like flowing white robes and an immaculate beard, mindvalleys biz casual motief is p lame

vishen quest

Fincher directed imo xp

when are these dudes gonna go on a manson mansion killing

my awesome video resume will be all staring down some shits with karma fury and them BAM quantum jump

murder the pigs, ring bell of awesomeness

tbh i wouldnt be into it unless i could rock the 70s cult leader look w/like flowing white robes and an immaculate beard, mindvalleys biz casual motief is p lame

their office looks really similar to the blue chip pr firm that i used to work for except with sitting on the floor sometimes. watching the day in life was p weird for that reason.

did lol @ that discrepancy btw how the women in that vid looked and how the guys looked tho

maybe the whole line of attack is like "you, babe, are so awesome that it's not gonna affect your self-esteem at all if you sleep with a schlub like me"

Vishen just said "the average age of my employees is 24. i do not have a single employee over 29"

http://i.imgur.com/o6jvD.jpg

murder the pigs, ring bell of awesomeness

― lag∞n, Friday, February 3, 2012 6:45 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

did lol @ that discrepancy btw how the women in that vid looked and how the guys looked tho

― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, February 3, 2012 1:48 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well vishen is attractive, the other guys for obvious reasons are not allowed to be

i wonder if heave ho could take his seo talents to mindvalley

do any of these people actually get paid, bet theyre all working on minuscule commissions

murder the pigs, ring bell of awesomeness

― lag∞n, Friday, February 3, 2012 12:45 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^This is life coaching. This is the serious thing.

or stock options omg totally

do any of these people actually get paid, bet theyre all working on minuscule commissions

they get free lightsabre parties and drip coffee those are some p sweet benefits for working like 11+ hour days

what is vishen tho is he the handtalken blazer and jeans guy?

guys i think ilx should become a mindvalley affiliate

http://www.mindvalley.com/affiliates/

it's not called work it's called being awesome

what is vishen tho is he the handtalken blazer and jeans guy?

― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, February 3, 2012 1:57 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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