ILX Art Gallery: Tregaskin Memorial Wing (do not read if you hate me)

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I wish I could tell you where it was! It was towards the end of the day and we were... on our way to the train station?

It's terrible. Although Oxford is, outside London, the city I've spent the most of amount of time in (because of family, relationships, gigs, whatever) in England, it's also the city I have the *least* amount of intuitive understanding of how it's all laid out.

Because of touring so much, you could drop me in the city centre of Cambridge or Manchester or Exeter and I could probably find my way to (whatever venue we played) fairly easily. But the only way I know how to navigate Oxford is basically, find a local and demand "please can you take me to X?"

This does not bode well tomorrow, but Grandpoint Genie has promised to meet us at the station and escort us to the right bus. Wittenham Lumps drawings will follow soon! I'm so unreasonably excited about the Wittenham Lumps, I know, but, you know... Paul Nash and all that.

I hate going to Paddington and getting on a train that is not going to Cornwall, it's so hard not to make a run for the Penzance train. But I can't afford to go to Cornwall without a job. ::cries::

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:41 (twelve years ago) link

I did not know about Paul Nash. They're excellent - oh wait, I saw the Ypres Salient at the British War museum, very memorable.

It may not be Cornwall, but it looks a fine place to go, particularly if you get those tattered scudding clouds we're getting and sudden moments of sunshine at the moment, should make it all look great.

The Winged Devil Ape (Fizzles), Friday, 24 February 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

Oh god I've just drawn something SO RONG I'm actually afraid to post it to ILX. I'm sure you can find it if you really want to look for it.

Melissa W, I think you'll be *very* interested in this one.

I'm going to go die of shame now.

Now I'm going to go and wash my mind out with soap and go and draw the Wittenham Lumps.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 26 February 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/toswr.jpg - contribution to the hairline debate. Same as it ever was, even pulled back tight!

Melissa W, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link

Show me the other side - the bald patch is on the other side. He is the most asymmetrical man in the world, he's always had enough to make a convincing fringe on the left hand side, it's that chasm on the right that has been generating my licking impulses.

OH GOD SHUT UP WCC.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:13 (twelve years ago) link

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/6939622119_62fe68de8e_o.jpg

Mr Tregaskin, and trees. A winning combination!

(Mr Treegaskin?)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

And this is me realising that I haven't drawn the Wittenham Lumps yet because I've spent yet another week sat in my bedroom staring at a computer screen. This is getting ridiculous.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7189/6944736055_04d75c8a06_o.jpg

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

So I've drawn no recognisable buildings, or landmarks or anything after that Wittenham Lumps walk, but ooh, lookit these lovely thistle things:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7208/6957237655_5658e9360d_o.jpg

...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link

Laptop in bed: story of my life. The thistles is the one i'd put on the wall, though.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

It looks a bit like a Liberty print. I would totally wear it on a shirt from made from fabric like that.

...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

Oh! I think I forgot one!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7045/6950261747_9c9ecf6c4f_o.jpg

This is my favourite patch of woods at the moment, eating some suburban Sarf London houses. Om nom nom nom.

...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

I'm gonna link this one instead of post it, because, erm, it's just getting embarrassing how much I'm drawing this man

http://www.flickr.com/photos/masonicboomk8/6959886739/

I seriously need to get off my arse and look for a job, this is getting ridiculous. (It's too bad that no one will pay me £££££ for drawing hott boys. Sigh.)

...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

haha i love the way that in the laptop photo, the duvet reminds me of the sea and the furniture of cliffs - have got used to seeing those patterns in your seaside drawings.

suburban homes is awesome too - whereabouts was that?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:03 (twelve years ago) link

Ha ha, I was trying to go for "Londonhole is grey, Oxfordshire is beautiful and technicolour green" but now you point out the sea/cliffs resemblance of my room I guess Cornwall just creeps into everything I do.

Suburban Homes is Biggin Woods, this little forest sandwiched between Streatham, Norbury and Norwood.

...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link

ha, it's kind of like when you haven't left your bedroom in a bit too long, and it begins to seem like the whole world, in both the stir-crazy need-to-get-out-of-this-disgusting-grey-hole way, but also in the way you begin to imagine surrealities amid all the quotidianness...

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

Totally heart the thistle painting (especially the green/brown/blue palette)

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 9 March 2012 06:37 (twelve years ago) link

I have so much trouble working with brown/green/blue as a colour palette, which is terrible considering how many forest paintings I've done lately. I think it might just be the Mac interface (though, that said, I had the same trouble on an old laptop, so it might just be photoshop.) Like, in all other colour ranges, I can completely see the difference between very small shifts of like 3 or 4 notches, but where green flows into brown I have to nudge it, like, 20 to 30 ticks before I can see any change. Hate photoshop for that. That's why I tend to use blues/purples so much more - they're so less tricky in photoshop.

...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 9 March 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know why I keep drawing woods, considering I have such trouble establishing where green ends and brown begins, but I do.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7180/6970770963_d6e2288398_o.jpg

This is not Great North Woods remnant, but a reforested area of Streatham! Where there used to be a dairy, but animals don't graze the trees back any more.

Masonic Boom, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

More Biggin Woods, now that the wild cherry is out. (Keep typing "wild cheery" by accident which is kinda appropriate, too.)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7189/6977144765_4f71ee549d_o.jpg

Masonic Boom, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

ARTSS

Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Been one of these recently.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7044/6980121525_bd33f19849_o.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

Made me think of Kay Neilsen's Gloomy Thick Wood painting. The girl in that looks like she could really use a duvet.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

These make me think of Emily Carr, Canadian painter.

http://www.arthistoryarchive.com/arthistory/canadian/images/EmilyCarr-Indian-Church-1929.jpg

Träumerei, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

I had not knowingly seen those Kay Nielson pics before, but they are awesome.

http://www.artsycraftsy.com/nielsen_prints.html

They have the kind of fairy tale quality I really love.

And I like the monumental slabs of evergreen foliage in the Carr painting. Like concrete sheets of foliage.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

I had a hard-backed print of the gloomy wood up in the bathroom in Manchester, my ex husband kept it, I do not know if he still has it up since he moved in with his new ladyfrend. My mother was a huge stan for Kay Nielsen, also Dulac.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

Man, I would like to start a fund for "replacing beautiful things that we lost in the divorce" so that you could have your gloomy woods print, and I could have the dirty Egon Schiele at the bottom of the bed.

Dulac, I know well! I had fairy tale books with those prints when I was a child. See also Arthur Rackham, my mum had a book that she cut all the pictures out and framed them and hung them up all over the house where they could scare the shit out of me, but also, I secretly loved them, even though they were scary.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

I think Lex will remember the origin of this critter...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/6836750106_f39d1ae6bc_o.jpg

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I don't even know what this plant is, but I kinda love it.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7047563975_414dc80b23_o.jpg

Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 5 April 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like a castor (bean) plant.

(Pic may be too big)

http://dtirp.dtra.mil/images/RicinusCommunis.jpg

nickn, Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

From which the poison Ricin is derived (as well as castor bean oil).

nickn, Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

No, that is completely the wrong colour, and the things on top are berries, not flowers.

I will never know what it is.

Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 5 April 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3205/2707518620_6ebc0d2180_o.jpg

Just got reminded of St Hildegarde and this rlly old drawing fits in with the forest theme of late, Penderecki Oak and all... (except this is so clearly the Salty Forest in Northamptonshire...)

Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 8 April 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

!!!!

and i don't even care, similar to how a badass would respond (Abbbottt), Sunday, 8 April 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

yo your stuff is legit fantastic, nice nice work

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

Thankee, thankee...

Yeah, I wish I could remember the exact passage that inspired that drawing because it was o_0 amazing but like St Hildegarde is out there, and something about divine breath / inspiration (that is the etymology of the word) that really caught my imagination, and Grimes brought up St Hildegarde in an interview that was posted on that thread, and I just thought "yeah, my homegirl." Or, erm, something.

Now I really have to stop mucking about and get back to my animation project. I've become a woman obsessed. I wish I had a better tool than just Pencil (because it just will not synch to music, and won't export with music, which makes it very hard to get the drawings and the music... *together* in the way I want it to.) But I also kind of like working in very basic low-tech, it forces you to be creative to get around the limitations.

Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Monday, 9 April 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

I am in SENNEN.

It is so beautiful I am surprised mine EYES have not popped out of my skull from all the looking.

This is what I see from my windows. It is HEAVEN.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/6955259630_08b1620dd6_o.jpg

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 22 April 2012 12:48 (twelve years ago) link

Awesome.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Sunday, 22 April 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Even when it rains. Especially when it rains.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7248/7108901253_95a4588cf5_o.jpg

I could paint this every day, the way the colours keep changing.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link

i love the window effect on that - that's exactly what i love about storms, when you're indoors and simultaneously feel in total awe at nature's power but also so warm and cosy.

also i only just saw the hayward gallery one upthread! lol, fantastic.

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

Indoors, with a good strong double-glazed window (window seat optional, but I has one) and a roaring fire (I has one of those two but I can't be arsed to make it go) is just about the best thing in the entire world.

Hmmm. This fire looks like a gas powered one but I can't find the off switch. If I have to go and fetch wood and kindling... LOL rustics.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:56 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Please be kind, this is my very first attempt at animating anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG5S9LGGnlM

God, it just takes forever. The song is like 4 minutes long, but it took me over a month to animate a single minute. (OK, I had many interruptions in terms of holiday, new job, etc. but still.)

It's v v rudimentary. There's a ton of more stuff I'd have liked to have added (I'd have loved for the trees in the background to move as if in the wind) but it was just too damn fiddly. I think you need a lot more patience to do animation than I've got.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, very very nice!

poxen, Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

You realise it's too good to stop now?

Mark G, Monday, 21 May 2012 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

this is all digital I assume...? you wanna talk slow, I've recently embarked on a stop-motion animation project ayiyiyi

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

At my current work rate doing the rest of the storyboard would take about 2 years. Which is sad coz I liked the story line.

I started it the old fashioned way, with tracing paper and ink! (the bit where the curtains blow open is hand drawn) which was actually quicker than digital but scanning it and digitising was just completely infuriating.

I can't imagine how long stop motion would take!

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

yeah we've been working out the technical kinks for months, I think we have like 30 seconds of test material lol

here's the first thing I've finished in awhile

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/7243419170_3f2756ac3f_z.jpg

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

Mayan synths! I love it!

If I'd done the animation properly (I put an image every 3 frames instead of every frame) I'd only have had 30 seconds. But I reckoned the jerkiness looked alright as it was in time with the music.

Is yr stop motion thing a music video? You might try that to stretch it out.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I'm working with one of the other band members who's a film editor/animator, we have a dope sheet and everything. turns out I just have really complicated ideas tho lol. at this rate we will be done in 10 years

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

what animation app did you use...?

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

I feel really dumb now coz I didn't even know what a dope sheet was before I read that. I suppose because I'm drawing it all out rather than shooting it, I don't need to worry about camera angles and things. That sounds so complicated. Your drawings are so detailed I would love to see your animations, but I can imagine it would take forever.

I used freeware called Pencil, which I don't recommend. It's crashy as hell, it won't seem to load more than 15 seconds of animations at a time, it likes to lose layers and move things about without asking you. I ended up doing all the actual coding in TextEdit and just using it as a compiler. I then had to chuck all these 10 second blips into iMovie and add the soundtrack, and iMovie just destroys the quality - it was originally done in HD, but you can't tell that by what iMovie export. I don't think I'd do another project in Pencil, I'd like to find something more reliable. If I ever did anything again, which I'm not sure I would.

Then again, maybe I should be less ambitious and do 10 second blips that are just animations of regular drawings.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link


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