Calif. teacher resigns after leaving family for student

well this guy's going to have to go into hiding now that nancy grace is on the case

she looks more like an "adult" in that photo but he still looks like a perv

Jordan, a quiet, fragile-seeming young woman, who looks closer to 15 than 18 years in age, gazed up at her former teacher, a man that looks every bit his 41 years, and said, "He's more than just a lover."

*vomit*

more than a touch of CYE in that pic

i think nancy grace is going to be otm for once.

Hooker claims he saw Powers as "just a student" and had no romantic feelings toward her at first, but when her most recent birthday came around, things changed.

what a coinkidink~~

at the stroke of midnight, cupid struck.

stuck by another's cupid

...why did i make that horribly formed joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgdSfI2HERo

"there are hotel receipts ppl, what do you think they did? homework?!"

i love how they brought this guy in to argue with nancy grace and he keeps trying to argue with her but there's so little room for disagreement that he just keeps repeating her in an argumentative voice.

"business" teacher

goddamn, kinda late to this but,
me: male 20s HS teacher and this shit sends me up a wall for reasons laid out by all yall, but when an adult abuses his position of authority to pursue a sexual relationship, it jeopardizes the trust in all teachers, particularly male, that students have.

i'm the coordinator for academic competitions for my school which means the other math/debate/writing/etc coaches and i spend time with students that's much less structured and impersonal than a trad classroom. i can't imagine being a parent and sending my child to this setting and having in the back of my mind "is one of these dudes a wolf in sheep's clothing?"

Yeah now I think about it when I was in final year of high school, our small advanced english class (about 8 ppl, all girls iirc?) would sometyimes have to go to our teachers HOUSE in the morning before school to fit in some extra hours of work. It was all 100% above board, absolutely, but it amazes me now to think it was ok.

it's funny you mention that but what makes it okay is the seven other girls - i will just absolutely not see one or other student w/o another student or teacher around because it's a huge red flag

not sure where that "or" came from

ditto "other"

90% of high schoolers on tv +movies are played by very sexually desirable 20-something year olds

Yeah, this weirds me out too. The cast of Glee look older than the university students I teach. (Cory Monteith is just three years younger than I am.) (And so the girl in the photo doesn't look for her age to me at all.) But... if every man really does want to have sex with teenage girls as per the sketch referenced above, why would this be the case? Wouldn't actual teenage actors be hotter?

"doesn't look young for her age to me at all"

it's funny you mention that but what makes it okay is the seven other girls - i will just absolutely not see one or other student w/o another student or teacher around because it's a huge red flag

Thats a very good point yeah.

personally i think she does look young for an 18 yo but your point is OTM

it's because teenagers still have little kid faces, regardless of puberty

I went to kickboxing class and now I feel much better! Just one thing:

repeat offenders I only knew by hearsay, and I'm not entirely sure of how far the 'making out' progressed' etc. but still YUK

I'm glad you used quotes there, vg, because this isn't making out, it's sexual assault.

so glad Nancy Grace is involved now

high schoolers on tv +movies are played by very sexually desirable 20-something year olds

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Sh8wZMrbRs/TaL78I0EYPI/AAAAAAAAAi0/LwamD74PPaU/s1600/andrea1.jpg

xxpost to Laurel: yep. I only knew of one girl who came forward...the offending student was removed from the dorm, and if memory serves the girl did make efforts to press charges against him.

it's funny you mention that but what makes it okay is the seven other girls - i will just absolutely not see one or other student w/o another student or teacher around because it's a huge red flag

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yeah, it's a sad product of the age we live in, but i'm beginning to be of the opinion that adults should pretty much never be allowed unsupervised one-on-one time w other people's kids. not saying that there should be a law against it or w/e, but if i had kids, i'd be extremely careful abt such situations.

pretty stupid age we live in then

I dunno I'm hard-pressed to think of a time as a kid when I was left one-on-one with a (non-relative) adult with absolutely no one else around. it is sort of unusual.

yeah and as a teacher i can't think of any good reason i would be alone with a student in a private setting.

music lessons?

being alone with one of my schoolteachers would be a bit odd tho yeah

What is it with Modesto? Gary Condit's from there, other things I can't remember.

yeah and as a teacher i can't think of any good reason i would be alone with a student in a private setting.

yeah I guess I was definitely alone in the classroom with teachers at various points (detention, etc.)

xp

i was strictly talking about high school teachers.

nowadays you leave the door open in those situations and you organize to have more than one kid doing detention together. it's a little bit of extra work to organize but actually more efficient than dealing with everyone in a truly "one on one" way.

at my school all the doors and walls are glass so everybody in the halls can see into every classroom, so even when i'm working with one student at a time it's not "private".

yeah that was def the case at my schools - classroom doors were open, windows all around

Yeah if any of my friend or I had to stay behind after class, the teacher was usually cool with leting my friends stand by the door or at the back of the classroom to wait, I don't remember very many one-on-one closed door situations.

We did have a couple of rumored pervy/creepy teachers...I always wondered how true those rumors were.

probably very

yeah, probably true, unfortunately there seems to be at least one at every school ... we had an aide dude who was in college (i think he was 21) get fired last year for arranging to meet up w/ a 10th grade student at an all-ages show ... so, so sketchy.

I can name at least three teachers who either was convicted of molestation or ran off with their 18-year-old former student.

it's such a fine line

anyway i can think of one from my school, and one marriage from my college. college is entirely another story tho, not least for the legal reasons

My parents were both teachers. One of their fellow teachers - a guy who was around my age (late 20s/early 30s at the time) – would drive the 75 miles down to Little Rock to sit with my parents and watch my little (then-junior high) sister ice skate.

They thought nothing of it, but I constantly repeated to them my suspicions of a single dude that age making four-hour road trips to watch a 13-year-old ice skate.

Nothing ever happened that I heard about except that his contract wasn't renewed after he failed to show up a few mornings because he was too hungover.

one of our science teachers had a wall of photographs of female students in his office, and his favored female student in my class used to arm herself with at least two male students for company when she had to go in for extra help. it is insane to me that that dude didn't get fired. it was a private school with a very insular culture, but still.

ime while things can definitely get blown out of proportion, the student rumor-mill tended not to fabricate these kinds of accusations out of whole cloth - when these kinds of questions arose it was usually one of two scenarios. 1) teacher actually DID do something questionable/unethical/pervy and the victim whispered about it to someone else and the rumors spread among the student populace from there ,or 2) "Satanic Panic" syndrome and the students were led to invent stuff based on the paranoid prodding of authority figures (cops, parents, etc.)

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now that I think about it, we used to joke that our 10th grade math teacher paid extra attention to one girl cause she would wear shirts that showed cleavage. I didn't think too much of it at the time, but...

one rumored-pervy teacher was the Dad of a girl in my class. he was our Music teacher in 7th grade. There were rumors of him feeling up girls and keeping them after class and also of him perving on girls in locker rooms? Which doesn't make sense to me now because he was never anywhere near the gym but whatever. On my first day of school I was told by an older girl to always be first out the door when the bell rings, don't give him any excuse to keep you after class which totally made me O_O, I avoided him like the plague.

the other pervy teacher was a history/english teacher, he mostly taught the senior classes. The rumor was that he had holes in his pockets so that he could play with himself in class, and that he was into child porn. I vaguely remember some apocryphal stories of him either bringing in explicit sex stories to a class or giving one to a student to take home. He gave off super creepy vibes, I did not like being around him at all.

My friend's wife always complains because she participated in pretty much every choir opportunity in high school, her parents were always key in the fundraising efforts, and if she runs into the director he never seems to remember her. He always remembers her gay male friend who was also in choir, though!

Said choir director came out of the closet at some point, got divorced, etc. sometime after she was in high school.

I have, multiple times, told the story of how my Spanish teacher asked me out after I transferred out of his class. That was just weird.

como estas?

I had a friend/frat bro in college who was constantly dumping girlfriends for younger models. He went on to become an HS music teacher, and three years ago he plead guilty to multiple counts of sexual battery & gross sexual imposition for having sex with a 17 year old student. (He was 42.)