HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

Lol max u topped my accidental one from last season, which I STILL feel guilty abt...

someone should resurrect one of the books threads for spoiler talk so this doesn't happen

everything abt this show is hilarious

shadow? wtf max?! OFF WITH HIS FINGERS!

Pull out his tongue with hot pincers

Killed both potential spoilers without reading so let's all be cool just a bit of accident

Finally caught up

Uhhhh the mouth-wiping was O_o. I still don't really get why they have to go THAT far with it. Even if they have a must-show-this-many-boobs contract, who decides on face-spooge?

The Theon and Yara reveal was handled really well, and I loved the scenes with Gendry/Arya.

Mr Veg and I got a lot of lols out of Melisandre and Stannis boning down on the war table. Like, dude you couldn't sweep the table before you threw her down?

WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO JON SNOW YOU GUYS

during the Stannis/Melisandre bonedown I kept thinking "she has hella action figures up her butt"

SYMBOLISM

Lol DJP I said almost the exact thing to Mr Veg!

too much time on ilx etc

"I can give you... a SON! Oh, um... now hold on... hey, ouch, my back... I'm on a mountain range, shit... Agh my spine..."

during the Stannis/Melisandre bonedown I kept thinking "she has hella action figures up her butt"

I was thinking the same thing, that particular table would be verrrrry uncomfortable.

She's impervious to action figure intrusion in the same way she's impervious to poison.

"I pooped a chesspiece"

wait, that means STANNIS has hella action figures up his butt

Origin story!

Collectibles!

This show suffers a bit from "you paid for cable, here are your complementary titties" syndrome

and splooge and anal etc etc

that new redheaded witch lady is super hot I appreciated hbo taking the time to show me her titties, and I feel the gratuitous nudity is totally in keeping w/the overall trashy vibes of the show in general

I would like to respectfully decline my complimentary anal titties

Imagine if hbo had picked up mad men

we would have seen hendricks boobs in the opening credits

well thank you for the mental image of Christina Hendricks' CGI breasts dropping n-bombs

why can't boobs just be boobs, Dan

Well, we're talking about an HBO-ified Mad Men, right? The boobs would be chain-smoking, too.

they already chain smoke in mad men tbf

boobs lost in an existential fog

of anal

ENOUGH, OKAY? Jesus. I know you're all joking but enough of clicking on this thread to see these words, please?

It's not making it LESS gross that lots of people want to keep returning to the scenes where women are treated the most dismissively/cruelly and making jokes about their sexualized, dehumanized bodies.

http://www.socialjusticeleague.net/2011/09/how-to-be-a-fan-of-problematic-things/

lol that url

liberal.net/handwringing

eh, y'know sometimes liberal handwringing is a proper response when you're dealing with this stuff; I generallly agree with this:

Sometimes you still enjoy a movie or book because you read a certain, potentially problematic scene in a certain way – but others read it entirely differently, and found it more problematic. For example, consider the scene in Game of Thrones where Drogo rapes Dany (which he does not do in the books). One of my friends feels that it was portrayed like rape fetish porn, sexualising the act and Dany’s pain. But I feel that the scene focuses on Dany’s pain and tears in a manner that is not fetishising them (though even so the narrative is still totally fucked up because Dany and her rapist then go on to have a good, sexyfuntimes relationship…uh, no, HBO). I don’t agree with my friend’s interpretation but I recognise it as a totally valid reading of the scene.

Also, as a fan of problematic media, you need to respect the fact that others may be so upset or angered by media you love that they don’t want to engage with it at all. In fact, one of my best friends won’t watch HBO’s Game of Thrones because of the racism and misogyny. That’s a completely legitimate and valid response to that tv show, and me trying to convince her to give it another shot would be disrespectful and hurtful. If you badger others to see what you see in something when they are telling you it’s not enjoyable for them, you’re being an entitled jerk. You’re showing yourself to be willing to hurt a real person over a television show. That really is a sign you’re taking things too seriously.

For example, consider the scene in Game of Thrones where Drogo rapes Dany (which he does not do in the books)

wait, what

haven't read that part in the book dunno where she's going with that
do they play it up as consensual in print?

I always connected that relationship to the one in raise the red lantern in my head, dunno why that made the medicine go down easier, but it did

its semi-consensual in the books and very gross, ib elieve weve gone over this before

Mordy, maybe I made that up/transplanted it from another book??? I'm not finding references to it online now and I haven't read Bk 1 in a long time, but I thought that at some point Drogo had to um well that it had to be in public under the stars, in the manner of the horses that are the Dothraki lifesblood. It DID happen, didn't it??

― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, June 9, 2011 4:47 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in the books, during the scene where danaerys introduces drogo to non-doggystyle sex, she drags him out into the middle of the camp. its a power display on the part of danaerys, and not rape (unless were talking a complicated definition of rape)

― ☂ (max), Thursday, June 9, 2011 5:17 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the wedding night sex, in the books, isnt rape either--he like... strokes her? all over? and then (barf) "slips a finger inside her" or something, and she is hrm "very wet" or something

― ☂ (max), Thursday, June 9, 2011 5:18 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol usage of hrm

http://k.min.us/jdixOk.png

― ☂ (max), Thursday, June 9, 2011 5:26 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, she has entirely consensual sex with the person she's just been sold to

ah, xposts

tbh i think the guy forks quotes is totally wrong

That was one change where the show really bothered me. Like, if I think about that script decision too long I start to feel like, fuck this show.

thomp, whatcha mean?

wow real hott stuff i wish there was some sort of blog post to teach me how to deal w/the complex emotions this prose evokes

That was one change where the show really bothered me. Like, if I think about that script decision too long I start to feel like, fuck this show.

that was the other half of my "wait, what"

thomp, whatcha mean?

okay, i don't think he's totally wrong so much as i think he has a 'difficult' polyamorous relationship and has tried cosplay

remember when u read that passage that danaerys is 14 in the books

honestly, the rape scene in season 1 was a real bad move and almost classically hbo in sense that the network seems determined to sell the most controversial product ever. that daenery's chapter above i thought was actually sort of sweet - albeit weirdly graphic - and made me understand how tumultuous his *SPOILERS* death ultimately was

whereas the show depicted the whole relationship like some sort of dragon/horse stockholm syndrome