in a way taibbi then is perfect -- nobody knows how this shit works but people know in their bones that something is grossly wrong and the great majority are being shafted.
felix salmon is great (great name too) but he wouldn't have come up with "vampire squid" either
but yes the exile crew and their 'aesthetic' are p gross
― goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
Indisputable that they were gross. 90% of their stuff was gutter-level gonzo / Vice offensiveness but the other 10% was worth more than pretty much every mainstream reporter working for an English-language paper put together.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
i will admit to liking "war nerd"
― goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
Dolan/Brecher stuff was usually p.great. When I first became aware of Vice it seemed like the worst parts of eXile combined with NY/etc advertising dollars.
― etc, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
sharivari srs request for evidence here, also did they do like actual reporting or was it more that they were willing to print opinions that were taboo
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Both. Can't really offer links atm but will look into it later.
There was a lot of very good reporting / analysis and a definite willingness to print things that other people were too gutless to look at. More importantly, i think they understood Russian politics better than any other news source and were willing to call out all sides, and the press, on their faults.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
Nothing about Taibbi is gonzo/druggy, tho.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
his style is kinda gonzo imho
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
Taibbi's 2004 campaign journal Spanking the Donkey cemented his status as an incisive, irreverent, zero-bullshit reporter. In one memorable scene, Taibbi dropped acid then interviewed the former chief of the Office of National Drug Policy—while wearing a Viking helmet.
― just sayin, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
hmmmmm
...while wearing a viking helmet
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
i know that in the US today where we're practically flooded with leftist writers tackling economic crimes w/ humor and outrage, Taibbi seems redundant and his flaws are magnified. but imagine an alternate reality where actually every financial writer is either a shill for Wall St. or a blathering pundit on the Sunday morning news programs, and you can see why, even for his flaws, people would embrace Taibbi (who is often very informative - okay, so he sometimes gets confused about how derivatives work, so do I). u know. theoretically.
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
his crimes against reality go way beyond not understanding derivatives
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
r u on the jp morgan payroll?
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
lagoon, would you recommend Michael Lewis
― that's why ZOG controls the radio (brownie), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
he's waiting for that one perfect anti-oligarchy journo
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good! lulz.
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
Ok I can't get to the original story because of a paywall, but this prospect thing is pretty bullshit. It's 90% insider baseball about who supposedly has what responsibility, and most of that isn't factual at all but just disagreeing with Taibbi on intepretation.
Look at what it says about Gensler, for example! It doesn't even argue with Taibbi, just whine that Gensler is supposed to be fighting "to close the loopholes in derivatives regulation that Taibbi complains about later" -- which is basically Taibbi's point, that Gensler is a former goldman banker and maybe not the most trustworthy person in this position.
Again, the prospect piece complains that taibbi writes that biden "seems more interested in foreign policy than financial reform" but in fact they say "Biden has taken the lead on the stimulus and jobs efforts." That's not a factual error -- that's a matter of editorial opinion.
Later on the prospect piece confuses Taibbi's figure on "total cost of bailouts" with expenses to date exclusively for TARP.
And then a dispute over the effectiveness of the CFPA and whether it is "castrated-in-advance" or just "somewhat compromised." Again, not a factual error.
ffs.
In this sort of policy analysis, everyone either overstates or understates or only gets part of the picture. These are mostly not errors (there may be some actual minor ones but I can't check without the article) but differences in interpretation and expectation, which reveal more about the prospect author than anyone else. I mean, lo these three years later, whose projections for govt. policy outcomes w/r/t the banks seem like they were more prescient?
― s.clover, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
It's rather difficult to find stuff in the Exile archive as i'm essentially just googling half-remembered stories i read eight years ago but there's lots of really good, really detailed material there.
As a semi-random example, Mark Ames' piece on Montenegro:
http://exiledonline.com/kremlin-whores-how-mccain-staff-sold-countries-to-putin/
Press analysis from Taibbi:
http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=6274&IBLOCK_ID=35
Kompromat Korner, which gave a regular update on corruption:
http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=8213&IBLOCK_ID=35
Again,this isn't "the best" of their work but it does show that they did take the role more seriously than it looked at times.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
Also worth remembering that, regardless of how often Luk3 H@rding likes to bleat on about the time he was jostled by a man in a leather jacket at Sheremetyevo airport, Ames is probably one of the the only Western journalists the Russian government has legitimately run out of town for being too dangerous.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
maybe he just scored the wrong babe one too many times, man
― goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
not that i nec. want to side with putinism or anything
They say they also take advantage of what they like to call the “white god factor” and make trips to the provinces. “Tens of millions of people live in dire circumstances, stranded in the center of the world’s largest continent, with little hope of going anywhere,” said Mr. Ames. “Which means–sexual opportunity for me.”
rly cool guy
― shit_ebooks (am0n), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
in post soviet russia you rape and pillage across mongols
― goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
poverty for you-sexual opportunity for me
― shit_ebooks (am0n), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
that was the underlying principle of the columbian triangle right?
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
from taibbi's boehner article, this is just a really nice bit of prose styling, describing "the 2000s, back when America was still unfucked enough to enjoy a phony real estate boom and launch recreational wars of conquest in the Middle East."
― s.clover, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/06/15/how-new-york-will-improve-its-on-street-parking/
― iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
p decent summary of asshole Dimon's testimony, if you'd like to get away from Taibbi's ancient peccadilloes:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/senators-grovel-embarrass-themselves-at-dimon-hearing-20120615
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
from the comments, a nice response to the salmon piece: http://quantiger.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/is-11-billion-a-fair-price-for-new-york-citys-parking-meters/
― s.clover, Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
hmm maybe rando blogger shoulda done basic research on the subject, where they'd quickly learn that the only thing being privitized is operations
― iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markbergen/2012/06/14/what-matt-taibbi-misses-on-the-nyc-parking-meter-deal/
“The basic structure is totally different—Chicago sold the system for a one-time cash infusion,” a Bloomberg spokeswoman told Dana Rubinstein. “We are looking for a private operator but we would still own the meters.” The city’s request, dug up by Rubinstein, is more subtle, but no less cutting. “In contrast to certain precedent U.S. parking transactions, the City’s objective is not to structure an upfront payment,” (emphasis theirs). If this commitment falters, then Taibbi should scream “grifter.”
― iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
"his acidic tongue"
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
really not keen on another argument here. i'll just note that being on forbes doesn't make one less of a rando blogger, nor do promises from the bloomberg administration give one cause for hope, and finally that the "operations" bit doesn't mean the revenue stream isn't going to go to the private operator and furthermore the details on the administration retaining certain elements of control were in the salmon piece already that the blogger was responding to, and aren't at all relevant to the y'know, math, that the blog post actually contained.
― s.clover, Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
+ the plan also means cutting city jobs with decent pay and benefits, regardless.
― s.clover, Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
if bloomberg were throwing away easy money, this would be a huge issue for transit activist groups. it's not really an issue at all, and it's only 'a scandal' for people who haven't been paying attention and don't care to read the details. the revenue stream is not going to go to the private operator. prices will eventually go up, the money will go to the city. there is no reason to believe that nyc public sector would be better at doing the high-tech renovations involved. and 'decent pay and benefits' don't come out of thin air - there's no end to the waste you could justify as 'decent pay and benefits' - you could theoretically hire a million people to do this.
― iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw salmon also seemed to be unaware of some of this, but I still linked it cause he called taibbi a parasitical suburbanite
― iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― cissymanwhore (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
and hey read pg 10
http://www.scribd.com/doc/96706824/Request-for-Qualifications-NYC-Parking-System
― iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://dealbreaker.com/images/thumbs/matttaibbi.gifhttp://dealbreaker.com/images/thumbs/matttaibbi.gifhttp://dealbreaker.com/images/thumbs/matttaibbi.gif
― buzza, Saturday, 16 June 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link
ok everyone is writing as though the bulk of the revenue stream will go to the operator, so i don't know where you're getting this from. plus i read page 10 and it said nothing. plus on top of that i skimmed taibbi's article and he actually accurately reported the claim that NY would retain full control of rates and violations enforcement. So maybe you want to cut bloomberg more slack than taibbi in terms of future projections, but taibbi's working with the same facts everyone else is and, as usual, you're living in made up citing poorly-skimmed pdf-land.
― s.clover, Saturday, 16 June 2012 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
it was my impression the the worst of exile's excesses (in terms of journalism but also private affairs) belonged to ames, not taibbi, but i could be corrected.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 16 June 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
ok everyone is writing as though the bulk of the revenue stream will go to the operator, so i don't know where you're getting this from
"In contrast to certain precedent U.S. parking transactions, the City's objective is not to structure an upfront payment. Rather, the City views the possible PMA as an asset management partnership through which a Private Manager would earn compensation for driving up long-term value and service to the public and creating Parking Service upside for the city."
page 10 says:
"The city has an authorized headcount of 466 employees in FY13 to operate, maintain and provide other key functions to support the operations of the Parking System. Employees are represented by various unions and are covered by collective bargaining agreements. Respondents will be asked to provide with their explaination of plans concerning the utilization of these City employees."
the city is, straight up, *not selling the parking meters* and it's not even losing a single union member. this is why it's not big news unless your only source of information is a Taibbi article. I don't care how 'everyone is writing'. for a guy who's usually pretty thorough I'm amazing you reposted someone who started his math assuming every single meter in the city gets used for 12h and that rates don't already vary by area (and 'the real price' varies exponentially by area) instead of just...looking it up. it's on the same pdf above, and it's not 360 million dollars, after-cost revenue was 93m last year.
despite that, his math is mostly stupid because he underestimates - it could be way more than 360 million dollars if the city actually had leeway in pricing - which is one of the the points of this program. there is no reason to believe that the nyc public sector would be better at designing and implementing this technology just as there is no reason to believe that local public servants should be building subway cars.
think bout it: if bloomberg were giving away a trillion dollars *maybe the only people who would notice wouldn't be taibbi and rando blogger doing sloppy math*.
are we done?
― iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
'I'm amazing you resposted" = 'I'm amazed you resposted"
― iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
you are an amazing reposter. i admit to enjoying the whole righteous indig thing taibbi does. its a cheap thrill.
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
but i'm kind of a simpleton and i still listen to my old punk rock records for insight.
yeah, we've been done.
― s.clover, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
i admit to enjoying the whole righteous indig thing taibbi does.
when it becomes a schtick, it loses some of its ooomph. plain facts, clearly presented, should always do the heavy lifting for righteous indignation.
― Aimless, Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
schtick: inversely proportional to ooomph.
― Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i think taibbi's doing god's work but i wish he didn't think he has to come up with a new three-word name to call lloyd blankfein every time he writes a blog post. i mean i like thompson on nixon as much as the next guy but senator, i knew hst, i read hst, etc.
― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Stacey Plaskett Emergency
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
He tries to squirm out of admitting how much more money he's making now
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
lol
Plaskett refers to Taibbi and Shellenberger as "two of Elon Musk's public scribes" who "release cherry-picked, out of context emails and screenshots designed to promote his chosen narrative, Elon Musk's chosen narrative, that is now being parroted by the Republicans." pic.twitter.com/x97D14mZqR— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
whoops wrong tweet
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Journalists should avoid accepting spoon-fed, cherry-picked information if it's likely to be slanted, would you agree with that?TAIBBI: I think it dependsWS: Really? *plays clip of Taibbi basically agreeing with the premise of her question on Rogan's pod* pic.twitter.com/LWAKg4ogG1— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link
lol at
"Who is this Bari Weiss person? Does she work for Twitter?"
"She's a journalist."
"And when did she first make contact with Mr. Musk?"
"I don't know."
"So you and Ms. Weiss are part of a threesome?"
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
ew
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
can't get enough of your love, babe
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:izxpomdyri45gzhppiiyattq/bafkreiabj5jeilqrmnzaobn4wg7f6l23nfrrt7fns67adyi5a5ffkzqcnm@jpeg
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 February 2024 01:25 (nine months ago) link
consider me triggered
― beard papa, Friday, 16 February 2024 01:55 (nine months ago) link
http://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did%3Aplc%3Aof56nmyuqzvjta7qlf7gwht6/bafkreih62etlmp4sin52r5fugve44sl47pudpzla4wiu7fehqhm7paozh4@jpeg
having a meltdown on twitter apparently because Musk shadowbanned him
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 16 February 2024 14:58 (nine months ago) link
The role of the journalist is to repeatedly decline to criticise the comfortable
https://www.mediaite.com/tech/you-are-dead-to-me-twitter-files-journalist-matt-taibbi-posts-unhinged-messages-from-elon-musk/
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 February 2024 16:11 (nine months ago) link
Amazing comment from Bluesky on all this:
this is like the scene where Daniel Plainview shoves Eli into the mud and holds him down there, except instead of Daniel Plainview it's Grimace
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 16:26 (nine months ago) link
you hate to see it. well, i mean me, i hate to see it. i feel gross now.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:33 (nine months ago) link
lolz
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:36 (nine months ago) link
imagine a blanket search ban on a journo's tweets - forever
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:57 (nine months ago) link
If you can’t trust a petulant billionaire, who can you trust?
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:26 (nine months ago) link