Matt Taibbi

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ok everyone is writing as though the bulk of the revenue stream will go to the operator, so i don't know where you're getting this from

"In contrast to certain precedent U.S. parking transactions, the City's objective is not to structure an upfront payment. Rather, the City views the possible PMA as an asset management partnership through which a Private Manager would earn compensation for driving up long-term value and service to the public and creating Parking Service upside for the city."

page 10 says:

"The city has an authorized headcount of 466 employees in FY13 to operate, maintain and provide other key functions to support the operations of the Parking System. Employees are represented by various unions and are covered by collective bargaining agreements. Respondents will be asked to provide with their explaination of plans concerning the utilization of these City employees."

the city is, straight up, *not selling the parking meters* and it's not even losing a single union member. this is why it's not big news unless your only source of information is a Taibbi article. I don't care how 'everyone is writing'. for a guy who's usually pretty thorough I'm amazing you reposted someone who started his math assuming every single meter in the city gets used for 12h and that rates don't already vary by area (and 'the real price' varies exponentially by area) instead of just...looking it up. it's on the same pdf above, and it's not 360 million dollars, after-cost revenue was 93m last year.

despite that, his math is mostly stupid because he underestimates - it could be way more than 360 million dollars if the city actually had leeway in pricing - which is one of the the points of this program. there is no reason to believe that the nyc public sector would be better at designing and implementing this technology just as there is no reason to believe that local public servants should be building subway cars.

think bout it: if bloomberg were giving away a trillion dollars *maybe the only people who would notice wouldn't be taibbi and rando blogger doing sloppy math*.

are we done?

iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

'I'm amazing you resposted" = 'I'm amazed you resposted"

iatee, Saturday, 16 June 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

you are an amazing reposter. i admit to enjoying the whole righteous indig thing taibbi does. its a cheap thrill.

scott seward, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

but i'm kind of a simpleton and i still listen to my old punk rock records for insight.

scott seward, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

are we done?

yeah, we've been done.

s.clover, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

i admit to enjoying the whole righteous indig thing taibbi does.

when it becomes a schtick, it loses some of its ooomph. plain facts, clearly presented, should always do the heavy lifting for righteous indignation.

Aimless, Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

schtick: inversely proportional to ooomph.

Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i think taibbi's doing god's work but i wish he didn't think he has to come up with a new three-word name to call lloyd blankfein every time he writes a blog post. i mean i like thompson on nixon as much as the next guy but senator, i knew hst, i read hst, etc.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

that yeltsin obit tho i love.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

he doesnt know what hes talking abt!

― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:35 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh what is there to know really, they make up all that finance stuff up anyways it's all crap

carly rae (flopson), Saturday, 16 June 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

^exactly, this saves me a lotta difficult reading

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 June 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

Good stuff.

schwantz, Thursday, 21 June 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

It's passages like this one that ultimately give me a bit of a problem with Taibbi:

Who ultimately loses in these deals? Well, to take just one example, the New Jersey Health Care Facilities Finance Authority, the agency that issues bonds for the state's hospitals, had their interest rates rigged by the Carollo defendants on $17 million in bonds. Since then, more than a dozen New Jersey hospitals have closed, mostly in poor neighborhoods.

Up until that point, the piece, albeit heavy on schtick, basically made a reasonable and accurate summary of the scam. But the connection he draws here is just absurd. Based on Taibbi's own facts, we're talking about, what, 10 basis points lost? 20? 50? Even if it's 50 basis points, the lost interest on $17m would amount to $85,000/year -- real money, but hardly enough to make or break a hospital closing.

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

On the other hand, he doesn't say that the interest rate issues caused the hospital closings. You can just read it as saying "clearly these hospitals were hurting for cash, and some of the cash they needed was instead taken by unscrupulous parties."

He's not inaccurate, and you can read him perfectly reasonably, but you could also jump to some bad inferences without too much sloppy reading/thinking.

I was more put off by his claims that terms like "nickel" and "dime" were "code" rather than just common slang/argot.

s.clover, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

Oh come on. "Since then" implies a causal relationship.

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

I guess that's the kind of writing that works for Rolling Stone, but I find his constant resorting to hyperbole a little tiresome. "It's as though the mafia and the zetas made an bet to see who could steal the most candy from dying babies" etc.

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

Like, this was a skimming/bid-rigging scheme. If, e.g., major grocery chains conspired to fix, say, milk prices, you would probably say "that's really fucked up, and they're screwing over ordinary working people." And that would be bad enough. You wouldn't have to embellish it by insinuating that they were causing children to starve to death.

eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

hes sloppy because hes convinced of his moral rightness, which make him less morally right

lag∞n, Monday, 25 June 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

lag∞n who is your go-to pundit for suitable rage/accuracy

(don't say morbs)

mookieproof, Monday, 25 June 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

but i want to say morbs

lag∞n, Monday, 25 June 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

i guess i just dont like rage that much in my reporting, which is not to say that it not justified, mabye i just prefer to get the facts then manufacture my own rage, to come totally clean w/this thread i dont like hunter s thompson either and i read all the wonderkin technocrat bloggers even tho i dont think theyre cool people

lag∞n, Monday, 25 June 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

not just saying this because i know him personally but ghost rider strikes a p good balance between having some emotional energy and knowing what hes talking abt

lag∞n, Monday, 25 June 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

plus he's a motorcycle hero

mh, Monday, 25 June 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

and an admirable young man, who suspects that his invitations to discuss matters publicly are dwindling thanks to his comprehensively otm hack list

mookieproof, Monday, 25 June 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link

here is matt taibbi talkin abt fear and loathing on the campaign trail http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/books/2012/06/hunter_s_thompson_fear_and_loathing_on_the_campaign_trail_72_review_by_matt_taibbi_.html

It’s been read and reread by practically every living reporter in this country, and just as you’re likely to find a dog-eared paperback copy of Evelyn Waugh’s Scoop somewhere in every foreign correspondent’s backpack, you can still spot the familiar red (it was red back then) cover of Fear and Loathing ’72 poking out of the duffel bags of the reporters sent to follow the likes of Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, and Barack Obama on the journalistic Siberia known as the Campaign Trail.

*puke*

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 July 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

I'm starting to think you don't like this guy!

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

you can still spot the familiar red (it was red back then) cover of Fear and Loathing ’72 poking out of the duffel bags of the reporters... on the journalistic Siberia known as the Campaign Trail.

unconsciously making villainous Nixons, or Quislingian Muskies, or Christlike McGoverns out of each new quadrennial batch of presidential pretenders.

gah why whyy

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

each new quadrennial batch of presidential pretenders (it was red back then) on the journalistic Siberia known as the Campaign Trail.

nooooooooo

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 July 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

"Quislingian"!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 July 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Good stuff:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/this-presidential-race-should-never-have-been-this-close-20120925

Although I think he misses the other obvious point, which is that none of the serious Republican contenders want to run against Obama, who is ridiculously good at winning elections.

schwantz, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

All the more reason it shouldn't have been this close, no?

stet, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

eh, I question whether "shouldn't have been this close" is meaningful in presidential elections, as though it were equivalent to the Miami Heat only beating the Washington Wizards by a point or something.

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

Taibbi proves his worth when he writes lines like this imo:

Unless someone snags an iPhone video of Obama taking a leak on Ohio State mascot Brutus Buckeye, or stealing pain meds from a Tampa retiree and sharing them with a bunch of Japanese carmakers, the game looks pretty much up

look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

taibbi confusing the american public w/ 300 million matt taibbis

god he is so bad at this stuff

iatee, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think the serious contender thing is necessarily true schwantz. this is actually prob one of the more 'winnable' elections heyo 8% unemployment and if they didn't want to run it was prob more because they didn't think they'd beat romney

iatee, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

If the clichés are true and the presidential race always comes down to which candidate the American people "wants to have a beer with," how many Americans will choose to sit at the bar with the coiffed Wall Street multimillionaire who fires your sister, unapologetically pays half your tax rate, keeps his money stashed in Cayman Islands partnerships or Swiss accounts in his wife's name, cheerfully encourages finance-industry bailouts while bashing "entitlements" like Medicare, waves a pom-pom while your kids go fight and die in hell-holes like Afghanistan and Iraq and generally speaking has never even visited the country that most of the rest of us call the United States, except to make sure that it's paying its bills to him on time?

wow cool sentence, now what if the cnn cliches *aren't* true, o crap

iatee, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link

whoa, what if.

s.clover, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

sorry I forgot yr a big fan right

iatee, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link

what is your favorite of his long sentences

iatee, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link

so many republicans would switch parties if Obama put bankers on trial

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link

i like his short sentences actually. although the long ones can be funny too. what can i say? taibbi got jokes.

s.clover, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link

taibbi confusing the american public w/ 300 million matt taibbis

― iatee, Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one weird trick for winning the presidential election

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

Taibbi proves his worth when he writes lines like this imo:

Unless someone snags an iPhone video of Obama taking a leak on Ohio State mascot Brutus Buckeye, or stealing pain meds from a Tampa retiree and sharing them with a bunch of Japanese carmakers, the game looks pretty much up

― look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hah to each his own but its sort of unfathomable to me how anyone anyone enjoys these smug comedy histrionics, and hes so sloppy too, is honda any sort of boogyman anymore at all, someone needs to update their incisive lefty quips spreadsheet

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

I'm always surprised to see him get slammed here -- his stuff basically reads like ilx zings.

The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

the ilx house style is way pithier

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

not that there arent some terrible tabbi style stylist around

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

wow cool sentence, now what if the cnn cliches *aren't* true, o crap

what is your favorite of his long sentences

oh goodie – a sentence lecture from the author of these sentences. We're waiting, chin on fist.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

comparing rolling stone articles to off handed message board posts *chin on fist*

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

j/k not really chin on fist

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link


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