ive been watching this recently on netflix, from the beginning. i never saw much of the coach/diane years either, so it's been a pleasant surprise to discover what a gifted comedienne shelley long was. it's easy to imagine why a movie career was considered a no-brainer for her after a while, tho i guess she never found a decent vehicle aside from The Money Pit
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
oh man, ppl who never saw the Coach/Diane years are REALLY missing out
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
is it true or false that Night Court happened because ppl liked Harry Anderson's Cheers appearances so much
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:07 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
i dont know but it sounds plausible!
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
Night Court, according to the first season DVD, was created without comedian/magician Harry Anderson in mind, but Anderson auditioned with the claim that he was Harry Stone. Anderson had developed a following with his performances on Saturday Night Live and made several successful appearances as con man "Harry the Hat" on another NBC sitcom, Cheers.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
I just looked it up; Night Court was already in development but Anderson basically walked into the audition after his Cheers spots and some appearances on SNL and said "fuck you, I'm Harry Stone" and the production team went "well duh, of course"
xp: well that's made me useless
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
some random cable channel (Reelz i think?) runs 2 Cheers episodes every afternoon, which i've been watching and enjoying the hell out of now and again lately, although it never fails to irritate me that invariably one episode is Diane/Coach era and one is Rebecca/Woody era (i love both eras, just kinda wanna spend time on one or the other and not switch gears halfway through the hour).
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
"Cliff, with his secret!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7qWq5u2yMA&feature=player_embedded
― andrew m., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
Woody vs. Norm vs. Lilith
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
Carla vs. Lillith vs. Nick Tortelli
― trishyb, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
Lilith vs Woody vs Coach
― pandemic, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Cliff or Lilith.
― calumerio, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
decided to vote based on the reruns Reelz aired today and Woody got the biggest laughs from me. also one of the episodes featured a young Sherilyn Fenn and holy crap.
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
Cheers is on Netflix. This fact makes the world slightly better.
― your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Nick Tortelli, because I used to do an impression of him that made a co-worker laugh so hard she peed her pants.
― Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
the kid who played carla's eldest son did a pretty amusing dan hedaya impression.
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
I have never seen a single minute of this show.
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
dan hedaya is pretty amazing
― mizzell, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
The thing is the Norm-Coach-Cliff-Woody characters are p much walking jokes, albeit pretty good ones, deftly played. There's more of a burden on the leads. (Rhea Perlman actually gave 3D heft to her insults, I thought)
I stopped watching when Long left so I guess that signals my choice.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
My first vote would probably be for Frasier and Lilith in tandem; Woody, Cliff, Diane and Rebecca (thought they were both great in different ways), and Coach after that. Paul would say something now and again that killed me. Can't vote for two, so I guess Cliff.
Norm was funny most of the time, repetitive occasionally. Almost always found Carla a drag.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
Guess I'ma be the only Rebecca vote here.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
appreciation of Rebecca clouded by Kirstie Alley becoming a walking joke in real life
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
Dave Richards . . . (Fred Dryer)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
Worlds colliding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlIYukmlVw
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
People, people. No mentions of Sam "Mayday" Malone. Seriously? Danson just kills on this show.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:25 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
i pretty much agree, which is why I'm leaning towards Diane. the sam/diane stuff could be a little forced at times, but when they got it right you couldnt tear your eyes off it.
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link
― mookieproof, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:41 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
i thought about throwing him in there but iirc he was only in like 4 episodes and i didnt think there would be any hunter stans repping
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
I'm still trying to figure out what the "joke" was with Norm. Other than being a cool, nice, approachable dude who didn't want to go home to his wife.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
'there's winners and losers in this world . . . here's hoping you're one of them'
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
Did Cliff ever really zing Norm? They really only work as a duo, each character alone has some pull but together they're the funniest part of the show.
― your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
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― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
COACH: What's your most troublesome problem? NORM: Ah, that's tough to say, Coach. Let's see. I'm overweight, unemployed, separated, depressed, starting to drink too much. Guess my biggest problem is I've never been happier.
the joke is "fat man/little jacket"
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
my fav normism is when sam asks him what he'll have and norm goes "a reason to live - keep em comin." the audience didnt even laugh, i think they were just unsettled by it
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
TBH, I probably would've voted Frasier, but the spinoff killed that joke pretty fast for me.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
but frasier on his own show was a different character!
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
how so?
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
i had no idea nick and loret-ta got their own spinoff
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
he was more the straight man, niles was the frasier of 'Frasier'
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
frasier & lilith were such a power combo that its hard to vote for one individually. lilith's 1st & 2nd appearances are so great
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, voting Lilith solves that problem, doesn't it?
― Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
bebe neuwirth is just the greatest
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the Frasier/Lilith team is genius.
Sort of agree with this, in that Niles is the magnification of the already OTT Frasier character: more prissy, more class-conscious, more neurotic etc. I don't see Frasier as being different on his own show, though, just more fleshed-out. I think he's a very well-written, well-played character in both.
I think I've gotten the most flat-out laughs from Woody, but it's definitely a textbook example of ensemble comedy where every piece works. It took me a while to appreciate the Rebecca character, and I still don't think she ever reached the heights Diane did (that "Un Film de Diane Chambers" still cracks me up just thinking about it) but somewhere along the line Kirstie Alley fit in.
― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah MANCHILD IN BEANTOWN will never not be funny
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
Diane for her delivery of the line "You are a sand flea."
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
remember when Shelley Long came back and had apparently forgotten how to play Diane? ;_;
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
also...
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:43 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah, danson is the man. ive always loved me some danson. sam's a great character, probably too easy to take for granted since he was always there. he did become a bit more buffoonish post-long
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
Shelley Long's birthday is tomorrow.
― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
I was so skeptical of Danson doing drama after seeing him do comedy for so long but he kind of nailed it on Damages
― your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
not that i'm gonna go out of my way to see how he is on CSI but there was a point a while back where he was appearing on Damages, Bored To Death and Curb Your Enthusiasm around the same time and it was like damn this guy has really aged into a nice post-Cheers career
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
I don't recall that from the Cheers theme?
― Ste, Saturday, 20 January 2024 18:04 (eight months ago) link
Have i misunderstood something here
― Ste, Saturday, 20 January 2024 18:06 (eight months ago) link
The Lyrics To The Full "Cheers" Theme Are Completely Insane
― Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 20 January 2024 18:12 (eight months ago) link
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Saturday, 20 January 2024 18:58 (eight months ago) link
I don’t think it ever ran in the show otherwise
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Saturday, 20 January 2024 18:59 (eight months ago) link
Yeah it made #58 on the UK chart in '84. I only heard the song in full a few years ago.
― nashwan, Saturday, 20 January 2024 19:17 (eight months ago) link
Yuck, hadn’t ever heard of that verse til now
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 January 2024 20:32 (eight months ago) link
omg
― Ste, Saturday, 20 January 2024 22:17 (eight months ago) link
it's pretty wild looking back and realizing that trans jokes were about as acceptable back in the day as, i don't know, hitler jokes. like it's so ubiquitous that a lot of it i forgot about and had to be reminded of. i did know about cheers because... i think when i was a kid and was learning the piano i had a book of sheet music to tv themes and it had the complete lyrics in there. then i forgot about it until i was talking with this zoomer i know who's obsessed with '70s and '80s sitcoms and idolizes vicki lawrence in "mama's family" and she mentioned it and i was just like oh shit, i forgot about that bit.
the thing is that kind of thing was just so _routine_ and _unexceptional_. it's really bizarre looking back on it, because this shit was just, like, normal when i was growing up. i definitely feel that "between two worlds" thing sometimes. maybe it's that way for a lot of trans people of whatever generation... i don't know!
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2024 02:34 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, it seems nearly impossible to dip into just about any '80s entertainment and not risk getting blindsided by a (as it turns out not so) random joke at trans people's expense. There's even a nasty little moment at the end of a S7 Golden Girls episode that feels like a total sop to the shittiness of that era.
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 January 2024 02:42 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, it seems nearly impossible to dip into just about any '80s entertainment and not risk getting blindsided by a (as it turns out not so) random joke at trans people's expense. There's even a nasty little moment at the end of a S7 Golden Girls episode that feels like a total sop to the shittiness of that era.― badpee pooper (Eric H.)
― badpee pooper (Eric H.)
like i was watching... one of the weird things i do is watch tapes of old HBO between-movie interstitials from back in the day from, like, maybe 1984, and there's a promo for the news parody show they had, if you remember, it was called "not necessarily the news", and they had a joke to the effect that boy george was starting a finishing school for BOYS who wanted to be GIRLS! comedy gold i'm sure
i mean boy george isn't even a woman, just a guy who presents more on the femme side of things. god forbid anybody would be able to tell the difference between gender identity and presentation in those days, tho, lol just like. everything was so fucked up and i had no idea.
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2024 03:17 (eight months ago) link
you have your work cut out for you
― mookieproof, Sunday, 21 January 2024 05:46 (eight months ago) link
"Excuse me... where is your bathroom?""Right next ti my bedroom...!?!"
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Sunday, 28 April 2024 04:54 (five months ago) link
Apologies for the typo (my phone is a potato)
I was in desperate need of comfort viewing after watching a particularly effective horror movie the other night and I decided to start watching Cheers from the start. A show I haven't really thought about since I was a kid watching with my parents on Friday nights So glad to delve back in. It's sumptuous to watch this as an adult. To appreciate the scripting, the acting, just how tight and charming it is. A few beats are dated, sure, but I'll forgive it for now
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Sunday, 28 April 2024 05:00 (five months ago) link
Right now Cliff is only a walk on guy. Diane is fantastic any minute she's on camera. Right now I'd vote for her, Coach or Carla
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Sunday, 28 April 2024 05:04 (five months ago) link
There's just something about how the characters react quietly to things happening around them that works. You're in their minds as soon as the joke lands. I don't know how to describe it better
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Sunday, 28 April 2024 05:05 (five months ago) link
And the end of that early episode w/ his daughter is genuinely an amazing bit of acting - never fail to tear up when his daughter (Ms Dipesto off Moonlighting!!) says she's ugly, Coach says she looks like her mum, she falters as she tries to say "And mum was not beautiful", and Coach says "Your mother grew more beautiful every day I knew her"... ack, am choking up a bit as I type. And the words themselves aren't even a very strong denouement, but the way Colasanto delivers them is truly remarkable.
Got to this bit the other day during my rewatch of S1. Devastating.
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Friday, 3 May 2024 09:58 (five months ago) link
yeah great scene
― Ste, Friday, 3 May 2024 10:39 (five months ago) link
Saw the first Lilith (instantly great) episode recently having not been aware it's a while before she reappears.
― nashwan, Friday, 3 May 2024 11:10 (five months ago) link
Been watching through Cheers recently. It's such a perfect show. The only character I don't really like is Diane so looking forward to her leaving
― a3poify, Friday, 3 May 2024 11:14 (five months ago) link
Ah, but Shelly's performance is so strong those first few seasons - I really felt on my last rewatch that she is the centre of the show at first.
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Friday, 3 May 2024 11:28 (five months ago) link
Love Diane.
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Friday, 3 May 2024 11:34 (five months ago) link
It's a great performance I just don't enjoy the character unfortunately
― a3poify, Friday, 3 May 2024 11:42 (five months ago) link
I only remember the later seasons from the first run/syndication, jarring to see the first couple of seasons with a completely different Cliff and things 30% less wacky in general.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 3 May 2024 11:58 (five months ago) link
Oh I really like Diane. I love it when Shelley Long and Ted Danson almost break character just a tiny bit after a laugh to show they're kind-of in on the joke. Yeah Diane is quality
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Friday, 3 May 2024 14:00 (five months ago) link
does Cliff change a lot in later seasons? it really is strange coming back to these as an adult, when last time i watched it i must have been about 12 or 13
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Friday, 3 May 2024 14:02 (five months ago) link
I don’t think Cliff changes too much - a little more depth to his shallowness perhaps but you’d expect that over eleven seasons
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Friday, 3 May 2024 15:28 (five months ago) link
Slightly mindblowing watching today to realise that Cliff and Norm are in their mid-30s when Cheers starts.
― Maggy Scraggle, Friday, 3 May 2024 15:33 (five months ago) link
Early thirties I think! It is one of those WTF feelings knowing that the entire main cast (not including Coach) were around that age
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Friday, 3 May 2024 15:35 (five months ago) link
Yeah Coach was a bit older - early 40s I think
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 3 May 2024 15:50 (five months ago) link
Older surely?
― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Friday, 3 May 2024 15:56 (five months ago) link
Played an old mob boss in Raging Bull--two years before Cheers goes on the air.
― clemenza, Friday, 3 May 2024 16:01 (five months ago) link
Nick Colasanto was 59 when the show began
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Friday, 3 May 2024 16:14 (five months ago) link
Sorry, failed joke attempt
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 3 May 2024 18:11 (five months ago) link
Ha! Sorry!
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Friday, 3 May 2024 19:36 (five months ago) link