Mystery Science Theater 3000: C/D, S/D.

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You are only just now seeing it?

This is true, especially since there is no "Mike and the bots" dynamic to speak of. Mostly, I think, because Mike and Crow spend all their time ACTING! whereas Bobo and Brain Guy are a bit more natural.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link

I've seen DVD commentaries that you could download and play over the originals (the DVD commentaries for the first season of South Park are floating around out there, and require you to play them simultaneously with the episode).

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

Well, there's a long term twist seeing as how Mike first very clearly was still 'the boss' early on but as time changed his character turned far more feckless and incompetent. If you're into that.

The South Park thing was exactly what I first thought of re: Vinnie's question!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

You are only just now seeing it?

I should have said 'say' rather than 'saw.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago) link

It just always felt like fake incompetence. Which I'm not as into.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, interesting. Hadn't heard about the South Park thing. I guess it was done after they finished the DVDs?

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

Fair nuff. But I like to think some of the weird dark twisted side of Mike that had come out in the various guest appearances earlier on resurfaced in the later years -- him zoning out and starting to rant quietly about getting fired earlier in one episode, the cousin or brother he played in Time Chasers...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

They were extracted from the DVDs, yes.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Revive time! There's a lot of goodness over on the official fan page to note:

If you order through http://mst3000dvd.com, or by calling 800-645-2400, you can get Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Essentials--featuring episode 424- "MANOS"-THE HANDS OF FATE and episode 321- SANTA CLAUS CONQUERS THE MARTIANS--PLUS a SPECIAL BONUS DISK--Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Shorts, Vol. 3!


This collection, never before on DVD, includes: Speech--Using Your Voice (from episode 313- EARTH VS. THE SPIDER), Aquatic Wizards (from episode 315- TEENAGE CAVEMAN), Is This Love? (from episode 514- TEENAGE STRANGLER), Design for Dreaming (from episode 524- 12 TO THE MOON), The Selling Wizard (from episode 603- THE DEAD TALK BACK), Out of this World (from episode 618- HIGH SCHOOL BIGSHOT) and Once Upon A Honeymoon (from episode 701- NIGHT OF THE BLOOD BEAST).


The price is $24.95 plus $4.95 shipping and handling.

This is a MAJOR bonus as some of those are among the best shorts ever -- "Speech: Using Your Voice" ('plenty of lip and tongue action'), "Design for Dreaming" ("This was the response to Roger and Me"), "Is This Love?" ("Mmm...get the cuffs") and "Once Upon a Honeymoon" (two words: flaming angel) in particular. Order away!

Furthermore:

Rhino Home Video has informed us that The Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection, Vol. 6, due out Sept. 21st, will include:


episode 511- GUNSLINGER
episode 404- TEENAGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
episode 406- ATTACK OF THE GIANT LEECHES (with short: UNDERSEA KINGDOM PT. 1)
MR. B's LOST SHORTS??!! (which includes "Mr. B Natural" (from episode 319- WAR OF THE COLOSSAL BEAST), "X Marks The Spot" (from episode 210- KING DINOSAUR), "Hired!--Part 1" (from episode 423- BRIDE OF THE MONSTER), "Design for Dreaming" (from episode 524- 12 TO THE MOON), "Johnny At The Fair" (from episode 419- THE REBEL SET) and "Are You Ready for Marriage?" (from episode 616- RACKET GIRLS)

Gunslinger was the last Rhino VHS release to be ported over to DVD, and looks like they'll be happily adding more titles as they go. Another slew of great shorts (pity about the "Design for Dreaming" duplicate), particularly "Are You Ready for Marriage?" and of course, above all else, the insanity of insanities, "Mr. B. Natural."

And finally:

Special Edition "Carnival of Souls" Now Available
A while back we told you that Legend Films would be bringing out a colorized version of the movie CARNIVAL OF SOULS featuring a separate commentary track by Mike Nelson, similar to the REEFER MADNESS DVD that is already available. We were originally told that it would be available in October, but we've just learned that it won't be officially released until next year.


BUT...we have a special offer just for MST3K fans.


You can purchase a special edition of "Carnival of Souls" release now. The cover is autographed by Mike, and there's a printed note from him inside. The cost is $19.95 plus shipping and handling.


This special edition can only be bought at http://www.offcolorfilms.com/cos.html and will never be avaible in stores. The disk contains the restored, colorized version, and for you purists, the original black and white version is also included.


We've seen preview copies of this and Mike's commentary is terrific, alternately offering insights into the making of the film and his own witty observations about it.

Nice, I do hope that the commentary really *is* as described, as I noted upthread the Reefer Madness commentary was sorta eh.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 02:28 (twenty years ago) link

Mystery Science Theater 2600.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 8 August 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

That's absolutely beautiful, but it bugs me I can't recognize any of the aliens as such other than MANOS -- it seems the gold one would be Crow, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 August 2004 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

I'm thinking one of them might be the half-gorilla alien from Robot Monster and another (the green one) Gamera.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 8 August 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

I'm tickled to think that had either video game or TV history been structured a tad differently, we really would've seen a real true blue MST3K video game cartridge to be sold right next to Journey: Escape and E.T.: The Extra-Terrestial -- sadly, all we ended up having was the unreleased Voyager CD-ROM.


Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 8 August 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

You're absolutely right about Robot Monster, good call! A proper MST video game, what a dream.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 August 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

five months pass...
Revive revive revive -- a new set of episodes on DVD in April (no word on what yet), plus Mike's latest book:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0810992000.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

From turn-of-the-century novelties and Depression-era distraction, through wartime comfort, to Hello Kitty and Jeff Koons, cuteness has thrived in the fertile soil of American modern-age media and pop culture. What is it about fluffy bunnies with bows, baby ducks splashing in puddles, kittens snuggled in baskets, and little lambs on their way to school? Happy Kitty Bunny Pony celebrates America's "cult of the cute" in all its campy, kitschy, ironic glory.

With more than 200 images from the print and advertising archives of the Charles S. Anderson Design Company, this collection is an amazingly rich testament to America's fascination with cute things. The hilarious commentary by Mystery Science Theater 3000 host Mike Nelson, spiked with fun and curious facts, bits of sarcasm, and dry and not-so-dry wit, is as surprising and bizarre as the images themselves. So go ahead and join the fun-everyone from art students to your grandma is already shouting the cult-of-the-cute battle cry: "Happy Kitty Bunny Pony!" AUTHOR BIO: The Charles S. Anderson Design Company is ranked by Graphis magazine as one of the world's 10 most influential design firms. Their clients include Ralph Lauren, Warner Brothers, Coca-Cola, Levi's, and Nike. Michael J. Nelson, an actor and writer, was the head writer and on-air host of the legendary television series Mystery Science Theater 3000. He is the author of Mike Nelson's Movie Megacheese, Mind Over Matters, and the novel Death Rat.

I like the sound of this. I half assume this came about because Mike and that Lileks feller have been palling around lately (similar dry humor -- at the same time, similarly right/neo-con politics), but perhaps it was all dreamed up by Mike and this design company on their own, who knows?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

because Mike and that Lileks feller have been palling around lately

Oh christ no.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

It is nice, however, to note that Mike's keepin' it in Twin Cities re: CSA Design. Plus I'm guessing Mike can do this far better than Lileks because (CONTROVERSIAL GENERALIZATION ALERT) something like MST3K might give a guy better training for avoiding repeating a schtick than journalism -- or blogging -- would. Some of those Sci-Fi-era skits notwithstanding.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh christ no.

Hate to disappoint ya but it's true:

http://www.northernallianceradio.com/

The radio show Lileks and others do regularly now -- Mike has been a regular guest commentator, I believe. You'll notice the cover of Mind Over Matters there on the right side of the screen among the other books that participants have written.

I'm guessing Mike can do this far better than Lileks

It'll be a nice variation on Mike's non-MST3K written work so far, which has been text straight up -- your guess may well be spot on.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

By the way...dig the last book in the "Customers who viewed this book also viewed" list.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Hate to disappoint ya but it's true:

I'M NOT LISTENING! I'M NOT LISTENING! LA LA LA LA LA!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

By the way...dig the last book in the "Customers who viewed this book also viewed" list.

Snarf.

I'M NOT LISTENING! I'M NOT LISTENING! LA LA LA LA LA!

Face the truth (I do not say embrace it). Keep in mind that Mike's political/social take on the world is still pretty much something he keeps for specific parts of his life and work, as best as I can tell -- this discussion of a recent appearance:

http://www.mst3k.com/satnews/brains/mikenc.html

...was from the sound of it apolitical.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Or rather the APPEARANCE itself was, etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not really the politics that bugs me -- it's the close proximity to Lileks.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Lileks the DEMON DANCER OF DOOOOOOOM. And design.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe he hooked up with Lileks due to fond memories of This Island Earth:

http://www.newhousenews.com/images/lileks.jpg

"Eat my photons, smallheads!"

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Saturday, 29 January 2005 05:16 (nineteen years ago) link

YAH. Now that I know what he looks like I have fears.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:19 (nineteen years ago) link

By the way...dig the last book in the "Customers who viewed this book also viewed" list.

Brilliant! They're both going on my wishlist.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Lileks did look pretty stylin' 30-ish years ago. Like the bassist for some band that would be first on a 5-band bill headlined by Franz Ferdinand.

http://www.lileks.com/institute/interiors/yourhost.jpg

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Saturday, 29 January 2005 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link

This is an MST3K hread that hits most of the high points, Manos, Mitchell, Brain that Wouldn't Die etc.

But where's Hercules Against the Moon Men???

Sandstorm...

SAAAAAAAANNNNNNDSTORRRRRMMMMM!!!!!!

Ash (ashbyman), Saturday, 29 January 2005 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link

So does Lileks force Mike to talk about Lileks' daughter and shit?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 29 January 2005 08:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Lileks did look pretty stylin' 30-ish years ago

Not bad for '74 in an earth-tone way. Maybe he should just shave his head -- Mike seems to know how to wear it short with it comes to balding.

So does Lileks force Mike to talk about Lileks' daughter and shit?

Good lord, I hope not.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

...anyway, pre-ordered Happy Kitty Bunny Pony and also noticed Mike's other books are available for extremely cheap used via Amazon sellers, so I'd say pick those up if you've not already. I still hadn't got Death Rat! so I've schnagged a copy for under a buck -- with shipping still only $4.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude has a serious chin-butt. And it seems to have only grown in buttiness since the seventies -- what the fuck, has he been cultivating it? Exercising those chin glutes? For the lay-dayz?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 29 January 2005 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Botox, my friend.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Contents of the next DVD packet are announced:

As we reported earlier, Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection, Volume 7 is due out in April. While Rhino couldn't confirm an exact date for us, industry insiders are telling us that it is slated for release on April 19th. The DVD set will contain (hold on to your hat):

episode 407- THE KILLER SHREWS (with short: JUNIOR RODEO DAREDEVILS)
episode 408- HERCULES UNCHAINED
episode 410- HERCULES AGAINST THE MOON MEN
episode 816- PRINCE OF SPACE


A bonus feature will be ASSIGNMENT: VENEZUELA, the short originally MSTed for the ill-fated CD-ROM project and which was never shown on television. Rhino has confirmed for us that this bonus will contain the contents of the entire "Venezuela" tape currently available from the Info Club, which also includes the shorts CENTURY 21 CALLING and A CASE OF SPRING FEVER.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 February 2005 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

First time Comedy Central and Sci-Fi episodes are made available together! Three Joels and a Mike. Junior Rodeo Daredevils is a classic short, both Hercules episodes are treats and hey, Prince of Space...

http://moblog.co.uk/blogs/68/moblog_04897de692fa6.jpg

"HAH! HAH! HAH! HAH! HAH!"

Three bonus shorts all winners as well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

But where's Hercules Against the Moon Men???

Sandstorm...

SAAAAAAAANNNNNNDSTORRRRRMMMMM!!!!!!

-- Ash (ashbyma...), January 29th, 2005.

Hey, your wish came true!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 February 2005 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
So set seven is out and Mike's new book on design stuff is out or about to be but this general catchup story contains the new kicker, via Mike talking about one of his upcoming new commentaries for Legend Films a la Reefer Madness:

Nelson has thought plenty about his next target, perhaps the worst film of all time.

"I have actually dared to take on what some people may consider hallowed ground," Nelson said. "I'm doing (director Ed Wood's) Plan Nine From Outer Space."

!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Haven't they gone on record about how P9 is by far not the worst movie ever? Where's your PR now, eh?

Anyway, no reason why he shouldn't, although I'd rather he found another film which is interesting but very hard to watch without commentary, like Reefer Madness.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm. could be OK, could be not OK. can't see it being great, per se, if only because that movie's so damn funny on its own.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
there's an entertaining article in the new entertainment weekly on the making of manos. might not be of much use to super-hardcore msties but i roffled a few times.

strng hlkngtn, Friday, 3 June 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice, is it online yet?

That Happy Kitty book up above has finally been published and Amazon shipped it to me two days ago, so I can't wait to get it!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
I am watching a "rough cut" of the theatre segments of Swamp Diamonds, which includes stuff that happens "during commercials", some first takes, etc.

Bless this internet!

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 February 2006 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I really need to get on the DAP tip with this stuff. I do love how it's starting to leak out more with these rough cuts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 February 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

haven't read the whole thread but just in case, MST3K def does make the transatlantic humour jump. i was a limey on temporary secondment to your fair shores in the early '90's and it quickly became mandatory viewing for me on comedy central. the giggle-rating was kind of kept at a simmer all the way through but they'd poleaxe you with tangential gag-bolts at pretty regular intervals.

when they broke out an Andy Capp gag from nowhere that was so obscure that no-one who wasn't from england would've got it, i knew i was in the presence of pure genius.

went down well with nachos and a case of bud

john clarkson, Sunday, 19 February 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm fond of "Attack of The The Eyeball Creatures"

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 19 February 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

they just didn't care.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 19 February 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Nedrick, bring a hard drive with you when you visit next, I will hook you up. I've got three "rough cuts", but the other two are from Season 10 and are thus less "priority". You sit through a lot of the movie to get the handful of random bits you haven't seen before, but it's interesting enough.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 February 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I love you, sir. But I hope that was already clear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 February 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

"Permission to kiss you on the lips, sir!"
"Denied!"

(Every episode including KTMAs and every random bit of extra comes out to around 160+ Gb.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 20 February 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link


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