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i'm really impressed by how they were able to find old timey photographs of barhounds in the opening credits that were analogs to the characters. the ones for frazier and rebecca are especially good.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

and i saw this place in portugal last week
http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws.com/71562b9405a811e283fd123138141137_7.jpg

Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

they did their research, i'll give them that
http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/a9a96dda05a811e2a336123138178793_7.jpg

Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

awesome

Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

every once in a while i think about the (last) wwi vet who streaked out of the back room yelling 'lafayette we are here!'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

stevie's 2nd pic, daaaamn

goole, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

Hahaha, I've been looking FOR YEARS for photos of those things.

pplains, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

Animatronic Claven kinda looks like George W. Bush.

Baked. And yet so soupy. (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

i'm really impressed by how they were able to find old timey photographs of barhounds in the opening credits that were analogs to the characters. the ones for frazier and rebecca are especially good.

Are those real photos though? I've always thought they were made up, because they show scenes from the late 19th/early 20th century of fancily dressed white guys drinking alongside black guys and women, which I assume wasn't how bars for upper/middle class white men were back then.

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 September 2012 07:14 (twelve years ago) link

Or maybe the photos are real and the drawn pictures in the beginning of the credits aren't?

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 September 2012 07:16 (twelve years ago) link

pretty sure all the stuff is real and old tbh but i don't know for sure

Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Thursday, 27 September 2012 08:11 (twelve years ago) link

they were all real

Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 27 September 2012 08:55 (twelve years ago) link

Is there any info available where/when the pics are from?

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 September 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

They had something up on the official website about it when the series first ran, but they took the site down after the last episode aired in 1993.

Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Thursday, 27 September 2012 09:29 (twelve years ago) link

Cheers had an official website back then?! Must've been one of the first TV series to have one.

Anyway, I'm not saying the drawn pics are fake, but some of them look a bit dubious to me, especially the one seen here at 0:17, where you can see a black guy drinking with middle-class white guys, in a setting that appears to be a late 19th century bar. Weren't bars like this segregated in the US back then?

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 September 2012 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

Not all of them and not everywhere. I grew up in a very old harbor town; bars weren't really segregated until the 20th Century. Working class sailor bars were mixed; fancy establishments were de facto segregated, but that was more a question of class.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 27 September 2012 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

The bad thing about this thread is I want to take a couple of days off of work to watch Cheers.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

I can't see anything bad about that at all.

Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Thursday, 27 September 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

They had something up on the official website about it when the series first ran, but they took the site down after the last episode aired in 1993.

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pplains, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

why thank you

Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

do we have "Night Court" to blame for "Dave's World"?

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

no more than American Top 40 with Shadoe Stevens

the definition of fuckshit bird (some dude), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

From Cheers writer Ken Levine's blog

Weird question I've always wondered- where exactly did those paintings from the opening credits of CHEERS come from?

The opening credits were created by Castle-Bryant. They found old pictures of folks in bars and built that montage. I understand though one or two photos are actually people in a barbershop.

http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2008/10/barbershop-where-everyone-knows-your.html

mizzell, Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

omigod I forgot "Shadoe" was in "Dave's World."

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

oh wow what totally excellent timing -- and it's raftery!

the definition of fuckshit bird (some dude), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Long: Before the audition, I grabbed the dress I'd been planning to wear, only to realize that the waistband had been stretched to double it's normal size. But I didn't have an alternative and I was running late, so I just put a belt on and hoped it would be okay. When I met Ted, I realized too late that it was so blousy that I was giving him quite the view. I think it got us off to a really great start.

Danson: I was too terrified to notice she had breasts. I do remember that I was eating a sandwich.

the definition of fuckshit bird (some dude), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

damn that's a good history – and I think I've seen four episodes in my life.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Alley: One time, I brought Prince to the set. He's a friend of mine, and he asked to come. There were VIP rooms behind the audience, where a lot of the execs would sit, so I had Prince sitting up there. Everyone wanted to meet him, but he's a little shy. I think Woody went in and shook hands with him, and came down and said, "He isn't even talking to me!" But Jackie Swanson—she had a relationship with Prince, too.

Swanson: I've known Prince for many years—I worked on the "Raspberry Beret" video—and Kirstie and I used to fight about him. He once sent a card [saying] he had penned a song about me, called "Palomino Pleasure Ride." I remember bringing this card to work one time and showing Kirstie and saying: "See? Now who's the better friend?" It was so ridiculous. But Prince thought the writing on Cheers was smart. And he loved Kelly's headbands.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

wow, william devane was a finalist for sam! this is awesome

Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

Love this:

I did a horrible job. As I was leaving, the casting director says, "Thank you, John," and my eight-by-ten was already in a wastebasket. But the writer part of me turned around and said, "Do you have a bar know-it-all?" Because in the bars in my neighborhood where my father hung out, there was always a bar know-it-all. Glen said, "What are you talking about?" I just launched into an improvisation of what [became Cliff].

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's awesome. also that Woody Boyd was named before they cast Woody Harrelson, incredible.

some dude, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

i couldn't tell if that was real or just woody making a joke

ratz seems kinda snooty

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

'bars have a bar know-it-all' just the kind of thing a know-it-all would say to get himself installed as bar know-it-all

j., Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Staley: I have a son who's almost 19, and I don't think he's ever seen an episode. He asked me recently if it was in black and white. It was like, "Jesus Christ."

Hungry4Ass, Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

The other audience we would lose from the soundtrack is any talking back to the actors during the scene. One night on CHEERS we had a particularly rowdy and vociferous bunch. Diane headed for Sam’s office and they yelled, “DON’T GO THROUGH THAT DOOR, GIRL!!” And my favorite: Diane standing up to Sam and someone screaming, “YOU TELL HIM, BITCH!!!!” Needless to say, that threw off Shelley Long’s timing just a wee bit.

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Working class sailor bars were mixed; fancy establishments were de facto segregated

That was what I thought, but the people in that painting don't look working class to me.

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 September 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

ITV4 are showing Cheers from the beginning, starting tonight. Awesome news, I've never seen the first season, at least I don't think I have.

nate woolls, Monday, 29 October 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

jealous that they're running it in order, the Reelz channel random order reruns are kinda frustrating

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

intriguing results

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

Who the hell are all the people at the bottom?

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

It took serious hindsight to realize that Kirstie Alley was the lesser of the two female leads

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

You can see a huge version of the original photo here

everything, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link

Who the hell are all the people at the bottom?

Robin Colcord ... (Roger Rees) 1
- owner of the bar during early Kirstie Alley years, sent Rebecca weak at the knees and brain

Paul Krapence ... (Paul Willson) 1
- barfly who gradually worked his way up to supporting character in last few years

Al ... (Al Rosen) 1
- old man barfly with a squashed hat who dropped zingers in a weathered voice a few times a year.

Harry 'The Hat' Gittes ... (Harry Anderson) 1
- charming flim-flam man who turned up occasionally and ran scams on Cheers folk

Nick Tortelli ... (Dan Hedaya) 1
- sexually magnetic husband / ex-husband of Carla

Kelly Gaines ... (Jackie Swanson) 0
- fiancee of Woody Boyd in later years, subject of touching love ode "Kelly"

Loretta Tortelli ... (Jean Kasem) 0
- human Barbie airhead, post-Carla wife of Nick Tortelli

Eddie LeBec ... (Jay Thomas) 0
- hockey-playing long-running post-Nick love interest of Carla (killed by a zamboni while working as a penguin in an ice show, after the actor complained how onerous it was to have to kiss Rhea Perlman, on breakfast radio)

Esther Clavin ... (Frances Sternhagen) 0
- Cliff's sainted mother, quality bringer of lols

sug night (sic), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 05:27 (twelve years ago) link

the way nick tortelli pronounces 'loretta' is a thing of majesty.

wrapped in naval (stevie), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 07:19 (twelve years ago) link

One of the CBS channels on Sky had the first series on not that long ago, I watched a few of them and they hold up really really well.

ailsa, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 09:17 (twelve years ago) link


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