Matt Taibbi

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they all do, it's their thing

goole, Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

what if there are multiple Ezra kleins

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

all this debate abt a RS journalist while Madonna endorsing Obama as a Muslim goes unobserved; you people.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't know Madonna was a muslim.

Aimless, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

I'm glad Madonna explained herself to the Washington Post today. Otherwise millions of undecided voters who base their views on Madonna's onstage comments would have been confused. I am sure Taibbi will find a way to work this in.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

Madonna in concert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YIq5Q15L1o

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

Otherwise millions of undecided voters who base their views on Madonna's onstage comments would have been confused.

Are you familiar with the Human Rights Campaign?

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

^^ I laughed

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

haha

goole, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

"Undecided" aside, well played.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

it's true, bitches who give money to that sinkhole are only undecided about what belt to wear to brunch.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

That and whether they feel comfortable admitting they have a thing for Rep. Aaron Schock.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

Morbs, I was kidding, as was Madonna

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

"sinkhole"

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

*hanky panky*

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

idt matt taibbi's sense of humour is that different from like, dan perry's, or whiney's even, i guess a bit more macho but it's got the same basic structure ito, like, these enraged long incongruous expletive laden analogies

flopson, Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

"a Being There-esque cipher who was placed in charge of a Too-Big-To-Fail global banking giant by some kind of historical accident beyond his control, and appears to know little to nothing at all about the business he is running." <-- A+

s.clover, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

So I guess Matt Taibbi has never read a deposition transcript before?

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

Because in my experience, it's generally true that if you remember the financial crisis, you weren't there.

drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

"attorney Peter Calamari"

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

for some reason every time this thread gets revived i expect it to be a report that taibbi died, possibly by his own hand or "death by misfortune."

in excelsis 乒乓 (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/secret-and-lies-of-the-bailout-20130104#ixzz2HQDiw8gU

Haven't read this yet. Am guessing it's standard Taibbi.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

another narrative about how everything has been utterly fucked up by ugly shitbrain poopyheads, yes

da croupier, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

More grist for the mill: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-vampire-squid-strikes-again-the-mega-banks-most-devious-scam-yet-20140212?print=true

Choice bits:

The JPMorgan deal seemed to be in direct violation of an order sent to the bank by the Fed in 2005, which declared the bank was not authorized to "own, operate, or invest in facilities for the extraction, transportation, storage, or distribution of commodities." The way the Fed later explained this to the Senate was that the purchase of Henry Bath was OK because it considered the acquisition of this commodities company kosher within the context of a larger sale that the Fed was cool with – "If the bulk of the acquisition is a permissible activity, they're allowed to include a small amount of impermissible activities."

...

Meanwhile, Chase's own head of commodities operations, Blythe Masters – an even more famed Wall Street figure, sometimes described as the inventor of the credit default swap – admitted that her company's warehouse interests weren't just a casual thing. "Just being able to trade financial commodities is a serious limitation because financial commodities represent only a tiny fraction of the reality of the real commodity exposure picture," she said in 2010.

Loosely translated, Masters was saying that there was a limited amount of money to be made simply trading commodities in the traditional legal manner. The solution? "We need to be active in the underlying physical commodity markets," she said, "in order to understand and make prices."

We need to make prices. The head of Chase's commodities division actually said this, out loud, and it speaks to both the general unlikelihood of God's existence and the consistently low level of competence of America's regulators that she was not immediately zapped between the eyebrows with a thunderbolt upon doing so. Instead, the government sat by and watched as a curious phenomenon developed at all of these new bank-owned warehouses, in the aluminum markets in particular.

So fucking maddening...

schwantz, Friday, 14 February 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link

blythe masters is such a great romance novel name

i had to stop reading that article, it was too depressing

Nhex, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link

I know. And now the banks can just argue that the cat's out of the bag, and trying to unwind them from these businesses would pop the bubble, etc. Wow, that was Friedman-level mixed metaphoring. But you know what I mean.

schwantz, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah this was hard to read

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 14 February 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link

I kind of want to read something on the subject that isn't by Matt Taibbi.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 February 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link

There was a big thing on alphaville re: it

just sayin, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

link?

curmudgeon, Friday, 14 February 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

the thing discussing the taibbi article is on the main page, but you need to register. It was kind of stupid I thought. "Blah blah free markets blah"

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 February 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/02/14/1771522/information-asymmetry-bad-incentives-and-taibbi/

Yeah, chock full of free markets happy-talk, while conveniently ignoring the amount of governmental bailouts, etc. that Goldman has received.

schwantz, Friday, 14 February 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link

It reads like some kind of pro forma response that could be about any corporate or financial scandal. It barely even addresses the actual issues here other than to say "Well it's not ILLEGAL." Duh shit.

I also find it weird how free market dogma harps so much on "information" -- everything is based on this concept that the markets themselves should be "free" but everyone should have enough "information" to make rational choices. I never understood why there's this splitting off of "information" from the rest of the market -- if they really believe in free markets, why have the government even intervene in the information side of the equation? Why not let dominant players use their competitive edges in information too?

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 February 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link

the Informed Rational Actor is so fundamental to the whole idea, it's the faith in homo economicus that makes the whole beautiful machine possible, etc.; information has to be a sacrament cuz otherwise it looks like people trying to dominate each other; the free market's most natural mode of communication is advertising, an attempt at control (openly) disguised as a source of information; you know it's a mask but you can't take it off; whatever sorry idk

yeah you're absolutely right about the Informed Rational Actor theory, but it just strikes me that there's this weird fiction/mental contortion free marketers go through where it's ok to intervene in "information" as though "information" were somehow separate from "markets."

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 February 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link

Like if you really believe in free markets, why even require SEC filings?

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 February 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link

zizek says the keystone of an ideology is whatever its irreconcilable self-contradiction is; where's treeship

"weird fiction/mental contortion" otm

plus the free market is deistic! It doesn't judge the rich and poor -- it allows both to operate on equal terms. If you screw up, it's your fault!

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 February 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link

the paradox is like the tension where capitalism colonized enlightenment values

Mordy , Friday, 14 February 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link

lool at alphaville attributing taibbi's success to the "vampire squid" joke, when that just became a shorthand for the whopper of an article it happened to be the lede for.

eric banana (s.clover), Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link

otoh even though it makes my head spin, alphaville is one of the only blogs that covers the oddities of the commodity markets in any detail (commodities are fuckin weird) and i think they have a good case that it wasn't actually banks delaying shipments to drive up prices. instead, the problem was that people were willing to pay more for goods delivered later than goods delivered now (contango). in general, the reason for this was the vast influx of speculative cash into commodities funds.

so roughly put, you have people (not banks typically, in fact, though banks might assemble these funds as they do mutual funds, etc) investing in silver or corn or whatever as they would stocks -- you have a fund of futures, and when the futures come to term you roll that over into more futures. that creates contango, because the demand isn't driven for taking delivery on the good, its driven by holding the future for the good. this speculative cash fucks up the commodities market for people who actually want silver or corn or whatever now, at this moment, for some use.

so its the insane market prices driving the warehousing, not manipulating warehousing to create insane market prices.

i sort of buy this explanation.

eric banana (s.clover), Saturday, 15 February 2014 15:03 (ten years ago) link

but on the other other hand i don't think anyone really understands the commodities markets lately, they're just continually weird.

eric banana (s.clover), Saturday, 15 February 2014 15:05 (ten years ago) link

Like if you really believe in free markets, why even require SEC filings?

― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, February 14, 2014 4:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh believe me, well over a dedade later there are lots of players who would like to see RegFD repealed.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Saturday, 15 February 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

so roughly put, you have people (not banks typically, in fact, though banks might assemble these funds as they do mutual funds, etc) investing in silver or corn or whatever as they would stocks -- you have a fund of futures, and when the futures come to term you roll that over into more futures. that creates contango, because the demand isn't driven for taking delivery on the good, its driven by holding the future for the good. this speculative cash fucks up the commodities market for people who actually want silver or corn or whatever now, at this moment, for some use.

chapter describing this phenomenon was the most interesting part to me of that taibbi book griftopia and yeah i was expecting a lil more of a recap of it here.

yeah that part of the book was eye opening for me too

k3vin k., Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link


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