Guy Fieri crosses the unctuousness of Paula Deen with the smug hamminess of Sammy Hagar.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/sammy_hagar.jpg
Rachel Ray annoys ppl but yeah she's not doing bizarre drunk cornercutting like Sandra Lee.
Guy's more like: what if someone on acid made burgers and barbecue.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
Her magazine seems more guilty of including ingredients like "one rotisserie chicken" in them.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, November 19, 2012 1:27 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
honestly in a family of two working parents i find stuff like this useful on occaission, we made some way better than canned chicken noodle soup after work with a rotisserie chicken
it gets a bit tiresome to always be hear "foodies" that basically subsist on yelp approved "authentic" thai takeout look down on just normal day to day family cooking
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Bizarre drunk cornercutting is what makes Sandra Lee endearing to me.
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
does fieri have a trademark yelp like emeril's BAM and ray's YUMMO?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
otm Nicole
― ENBB, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
sandra lee and guy fieri both come from poor backgrounds, rachael ray is pretty middle class, prob goes to fancy restaurants once in awhile, I remember reading that she was at SXSW
― iatee, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Yeah, I get to stay home, but if we were both working it'd be hard. I just rip on the pre-fab stuff because "one rotisserie chicken" is dinner. Why would I go out of my way to buy a cooked chicken just to cook it into something else?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
The sort of food Guy celebrates, though, proves that you can have comfort food that is still well made and delicious. I can think of two DDD-branded spots within a mile or two of here, and they are both great. The sin of his restaurant seems to be making food that lacks the love the spots he celebrates cooks into its food, from scratch, every day.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
Paula Deen is unctuous and oily like all that butter she adores but what passes for affection between her and her son Bobby moves my grandma to bits.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
xpstwell in the case of soup it was just a fast recipe and the chicken being cooked already meant it could be done quickly but still lets you use actual non canned carrots and celery and better noodles
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
I guess I'm just not a fan of taking second shortcuts when shortcuts have already been taken. But yeah, we're both defending Ray for the same reason in the end. She does take shortcuts, and she is not always sophisticated or complex, but she does recognize the importance of fresh ingredients as much as possible while also conceding that life is not always conducive to cooking from scratch every day. There's a great feature in her mag that takes a main ingredient and basically stretches it out into three or four tasty meals. That stuff is helpful when you are pressed for time and can't go shopping every day.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
There's a great feature in her mag that takes a main ingredient and basically stretches it out into three or four tasty meals.
^yeah we get back issues from my mom and that meal planner thing is good because it really saves money, that way you don't buy like, cilantro, use it once and then it goes bad in the fridge over the next few weeks
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
two shortcuts, twice as good, right? it would be weird to not let yourself take a second shortcut if the point of the first one was to make your trip shorter!
― j., Monday, 19 November 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
Her cooking on 30-Minute Meals was legit from-scratch stuff, if not adventurous in terms of flavor palettes. My only issues with her are the giggly chirpy personality and the fact that "30 minute meals" often hide the prep time that would make them "60 minute meals."
I think I read once that she had some benign polyps removed from her vocal cords a few years ago, which explains the increased rasp in her voice over the years. (I haven't seen any of her shows in a long time so I don't know what she sounds like now.)
lots of xposts and phone calls since I started writing that
― WilliamC, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Food-wise, I like shortcuts in my shortcuts. If it weren't for shit like "chicken burritos out of a rotisserie chicken" and vegetables that were already washed and chopped, we'd eat frozen pizza 5 nights of the week.
and the fact that "30 minute meals" often hide the prep time
Yes, and elides that somebody else does the dishes.
― carl agatha, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
Holy shit, I didn't know Sandra Dee was in a Lovecraft horror flick with Dean Stockwell! I'm guessing its terrible.
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
and the fact that "30 minute meals" often hide the prep time that would make them "60 minute meals."
^^def the biggest problem w/the book we have
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
don't get me wrong, I think Sandra Lee is hilarious
(xxxppost)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
Sandra Lee is a true American hero.
― carl agatha, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
somebody -- bourdain maybe! -- mentioned that as a point of respect to ray. you can do those things in 30 mins only if you are a drilled and disciplined kitchen operator.
― goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
show's most obvious running gag iirc was that she'd go get every ingredient from the fridge/pantry at once in her arms and then just yardsale it all over the counter
― Fieri-brand sausages into my and your ready holes (silby), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
Am disappointed that "The Beach Creature Annoys Sandra Dee" is a Garfield gag, not the Calvin & Hobbes/Bloom County one like I thought I remembered correctly
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 19 November 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
the jacques pepin show on pbs is also a 30min meal type show, no? he isn't fussy about not using cans.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
we'd eat frozen pizza 5 nights of the week.
Tip: mix a batch of pizza dough, which makes about four or five pizzas per batch, then divide and roll balls and freeze in oiled ziplock bags. They keep for at least three months. The night before you want pizza, thaw the dough and you are all set. Just toss whatever you want on some slathered Trader Joe's sauce (shortcut!), and sprinkle with whatever cheese. It's sooooooo much better than frozen store dough it is sick.
This is from my future book " 15 Minute Meals Made Out of Stuff You Prepped Weeks Earlier."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
Some things are better or just as good frozen, like peas and broccoli, the latter of which I want to say actually gains nutrition when microwaved v. steamed.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
that's a good idea i would buy your book
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
Can we also mention on this thread that whoever is programming Food TV nighttime lineup or whatever it's called needs to be chopped up and fed into the cat food processor?
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
guy fieri is like the poster child for our age's manly cuisine. he's got the base meat and potatoes, grilling, smoked meats combination that deems everything has to be spicy like real men like it. then there's the "whoa, tapas is just spanish for APPETIZERS" idea that you can take these possibly-effete small items, add wasabi/mayo/buffalo sauce and man them the fuck up.
― mh, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
food network went way off the rails years ago
I do have a begrudging respect for Chopped, which has to be the cheapest food show ever. Single presenter, the chefs actually have to pay a fee to compete, and the production values are ridiculously cheap
― mh, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
Cooking Channel >>>>>>>>>> Food Network (fewer competition shows)
― WilliamC, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
There should just be a Chewing Channel.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keB2LH-KSAE
You lost me at "mix a batch of pizza dough," and by the part where I'd have to plan a day ahead about what I was going to have for dinner I was already resigning myself to a box of soup and a bagel. I mean, I'm no lex pretend. I can cook. There are containers of homemade chicken stock in the freezer right now. But it would be a rare work night that I would relish the idea of wrestling with pizza dough and prepping toppings. Shit, if i could just take a foodpill and be done with it, I would in a minute.
― carl agatha, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
if you're buying tj's sauce, you might as well buy their premade dough too, it's like $2 and really good
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
i kinda miss molto mario
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
My daughter uses TJ's pizza sauce for pasta, so we always have it on hand.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
The most egregious thing in it is abbreviating Extra Virgin Olive Oil as EVOO
i hate seeing this on menus so much, it always takes me a minute to remember what it stands for and then i spend another minute thinking about how dumb it is
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
I'm feeling defensive now so I will just say that I make an effort to cook at least one wholesome, old fashioned home cooked meal every week, sometimes two, and sometimes one of those is soup or a roast chicken or other thing that provides easy leftovers during the week. But most weeknights - foodpill OTM.
― carl agatha, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
the "you" in my comment wasn't you you, it was the person being addressed in the tip you quoted. like why would someone buy jarred sauce from TJs as a shortcut but then make homemade dough? just a weird idea.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
anyone who actually prints EVOO on a menu needs to be shot
― mh, Monday, 19 November 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
my scheme is kind of like a foodpill only instead of a pill substitute "chipotle"
― mh, Monday, November 19, 2012 3:45 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've seen it way too many times and i don't know why, how often does olive oil even need to be pointed out on a menu anyway
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
extra virgin olive oil is expensive = this dish is expensive, here's why
― Everybody did shit, art happened! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
like why would someone buy jarred sauce from TJs as a shortcut but then make homemade dough? just a weird idea.
Unnecessarily complicate making pizza at home with this one weird trick!
― super perv powder (Phil D.), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
extra virgin olive oil is not expensive. filet mignon? expensive. oysters or lobsters that are fresh but in a landlocked state? expensive. truffle oil? somewhat expensive. giant drum of olive oil? nah.
― mh, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
The really weird thing about EVOO is that it makes it sound like some kind of gross chemical product.
― wk, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
It feels like an attempt at some kind of food snobbery but comes across more like industrial jargon.
― wk, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
maybe it is industrial jargon?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link