sometimes you have time to make dough & you can't be arsed making sauce on the night
who cares, tbh
can u buy jarred donkey sauce is what I'd like to know
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 November 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
I don't care how you manufacture your olive oil, stop telling me!
― mh, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
1 dash JDS
― wk, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
i thought EVOO was only for drinking, not cooking with.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
the "you" in my comment wasn't you you
I know!
Boboli pizza crust, donkey sauce, pepper jack, hot wings
― carl agatha, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 November 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
― ciderpress, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
this will have to wait until after thanksgiving though i think
somebody has to have made a chicken wing pizza for mass consumption, right?
― Everybody did shit, art happened! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 November 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
it just makes me think of EVOL by sonic youth
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Monday, November 19, 2012 4:10 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
USE THE WORD OLIVE OIL...THE WORD IS OOVE
― some dude, Monday, 19 November 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
ts: EVOO vs "Emu"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
http://wizardishungry.tumblr.com/post/6839588178/marissa-marchant-emu-by-georgflauschbroken youtube message is urgent and key
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha I had just gotten to that via google
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
xposting homemade pizza dough is sooooooo much better than store dough. But homemade pizza sauce ... meh. Not worth the effort for the slight results.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeZ-0UtTRTQ"hey water moccasins"
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
homemade pizza dough is sooooooo much better than store dough
i disagree, i made my own dough for a couple of years and the TJs dough is just as good if not better then what i made. maybe i just suck though.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
for real though, emus scare the shit outta me
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
This is one of my go-to pizza doughs, pretty versatile:
http://www.shaboomskitchen.com/archives/bread/painlancienne.html
I've also got nothing but good things to say about this book:
http://images.indiebound.com/222/084/9781580084222.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
i will make my donkey sauce pizza with real pizza dough if i'm allowed to
― ciderpress, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
you are not
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
ok that's what i figured
― ciderpress, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
I will make my donkey sauce with real donkeys, if it is legal.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
proceed
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckMvj1piK58
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
^^ guy, change that to "put some donkey sauce on it." we're all about the free ad ideas for you, buddy.
― THAT IS ONE BIG PIZZA (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 19 November 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
The sin of his restaurant seems to be making food that lacks the love the spots he celebrates cooks into its food, from scratch, every day.
a man whose brand was built on his unreserved praise for food and people deserving of that praise, and who in entering the arena himself revealed a hollowness that threatens to undermine everything he’s done
― joygoat, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
bullseye
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
had no idea he changed his name from ferry
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
that's a great blog post imo. i don't have quite as much love for triple-d as that guy does but he captures what's great about the show when it's at its best.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
i think the next step of that critique is the difference between guy as a sort of contemporary food anthropologist who's had 20 different versions of red-eye gravy and can tell you why this most recent one is great, and guy as a "chef" (to the extent that he even is one) with a demonstrable lack of taste when it comes to what his own kitchens produce.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
i need to make more pizzas
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
It's bullshit, Fieri won a food network show and was plopped into DD&D as a vehicle. As the citypages article mentioned earlier mentioned, the show existed before him, it just needed a personality. Fieri's other, pre existing restaurants are bullshit. He might relate well to the food sometimes, but he can't even handle if the owners are gay or whatever.
Giving him credit for on-air banter and relatability to the common man is nice, but finding dive food relatable isn't a unique talent, and not what he brought to it.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
yup
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
it's not "what he brought to it" but it's "what he ostensibly stood for," there is a difference
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, I have a friend who has a tenderloin sandwich blog, and has visited something like a hundred places serving tenderloins in his state alone. Fieri doesn't do that, and members of the production team are looking at websites, travel guides, and newspapers to find these places. His job is to show up, act like the garlic mafioso dipshit, and hope the team was right and that he can choke down whatever he's served.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
Why is there the assumption road food is his gig? What did he do on that food network show that got him his job, anyway?
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:05 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Eh, that pretty much goes for every travel food show.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link
well i don't think anyone is saying that he originated this concept but it is what his appeal is based on, i don't think it's incorrect to say that his restaurant is a betrayal of his appeal.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link
Is that why he hosts a NBC game show, diner food?
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
i mean you can do a rockist critique of guy fieri all you want, i think all that post was saying is that we wouldn't all be talking about this if the food in his restaurant was half as good as the stuff that appears on his tv show.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
Well, and he wouldn't have had that tv show if he'd been judged on food alone. He had that Johnny Garlic's place since 1996 (according to their site, at least) and they have a pretty standardly obnoxious menu with no road food trappings at all.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
I guess that is what I didn't buy about the argument that he's betraying what made him popular or his roots -- he co-owns three or four restaurants already and the Times Square one is about the same.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, I have a friend who has a tenderloin sandwich blog, and has visited something like a hundred places serving tenderloins in his state alone. Fieri doesn't do that
― mh, Monday, November 19, 2012 11:04 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
your friend is a martyr, truly
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
don't know why that blog post has to take a passing swipe at Vandaag (now closed). It was a good place, with a different sort of food than you normally get in NY (which is hard to do). I guess it's more a passing swipe at sifton?
― s.clover, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
I like to think he's more of a prophet, really, who had to drive a shitload for his job. xp
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
Was VanDaag Dutch?
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 08:35 (eleven years ago) link
a bit dutch, a bit generally scandinavian, a bit generally weird.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
my Dutch colleague insists that everything is Dutch
― Mozzarella i Fieri (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
What did he do on that food network show that got him his job, anyway?
not sure if this is a serious question or rhetorical but Next Food Network Star (the competition show he won) is a mix of Top Chef style cooking challenges and on-camera stuff
― dmr, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, pretty rhetorical, but his work in the cooking challenges wasn't at all road food-inspired iirc
― mh, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link