Baskervilles was indeed v poor at that but it's Gatiss
ah, ok, thanks sic.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 30 December 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I think that solitary dalek ep is one of Moffatt's best. But god
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 31 December 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
...(cont) those RTD finales just kept getting worse and worse.
(that S2? finale with the solitary dalek)
S5, The Big Bang
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Monday, 31 December 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks sic, think I did a Moffat-style post RTD reset there.
― Fizzles, Monday, 31 December 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
Finally watched this.
Clara/Oswin is smug & boring to me. I'd much rather the episode had revolved around Madame Vastra and Jenny.
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Wednesday, December 26, 2012 4:28 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I actually didn't mind Clara/Oswin, but yes, I would vastly prefer Vastra & Jenny.
Ultimately I liked this episode, some very funny bits, but man, STOP with the "human emotions are the only thing that can defeat the enemy" storylines already.
― emil.y, Saturday, 5 January 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of wanted them to resolve everything by letting Strax blow everything up
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Saturday, 5 January 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it would've been great if with all that early talk about grenades, a grenade finally appeared.
― sarahell, Saturday, 5 January 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
run of episodes featuring sontaran(s) that bore the absolute shit out of me remains unbroken
― das ist not einer 不必 (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 5 January 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
The Sontarian was the best thing about it!
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 5 January 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
I agree
― das ist not einer 不必 (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 5 January 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
I can see not liking AGMGTW bcz it's too busy, but not bcz it's too boring
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Sunday, 6 January 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
ooh I forgot about that one, can't remember whether I liked it though
― das ist not einer 不必 (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 6 January 2013 00:39 (eleven years ago) link
Strax was even better in that than he was in this
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Sunday, 6 January 2013 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
STOP with the "human emotions are the only thing that can defeat the enemy" storylines already
OTM. This is SO LAME at this point. Also he needs to ease off "Doctor? Doctor WHO?" like immediately. Even Rusty knew to avoid that one.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 6 January 2013 11:31 (eleven years ago) link
I thin they're allowed to make a 'Doctor who?" joke exactly once per series.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 6 January 2013 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
less.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 6 January 2013 11:54 (eleven years ago) link
IIRC the question is being asked because the silence has fallen.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Sunday, 6 January 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
YDNRC IIRC, other way around
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Sunday, 6 January 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
So today/tonight. Also:
Ahead of tonight’s premiere, “Doctor Who” revealed some of the all-star cast that will mark the 50th anniversary. David Tennant and Billie Piper will join current Doctor and companion, Matt Smith and Jenna-Louise Coleman, while John Hurt (“Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy,” “Alien,” “Harry Potter”) will also co-star.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 March 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
eeeeeeeeeee :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 March 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
please let Eccleston have a change of heart
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 30 March 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
Good god she's pretty.
So, I should get familiar with The Abominable Snowmen I guess, but it's one of the mostly missing ones. Are there audio tracks? Decent reconstruction? Novelization? Anything like that?
― JimD, Saturday, 30 March 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
Ah - http://www.recons.com/recons/lc25.htm
(CGI yeti? urgh).
― JimD, Saturday, 30 March 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
my face is permanently fused to my palm
uuuuuughhhh @ this
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 March 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link
that was… not bad
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 31 March 2013 10:34 (eleven years ago) link
remembering most viewers have nfi how wifi works,and so don't need to suspend the extraordinary amount of disbelief that we do
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 31 March 2013 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:34 AM (16 minutes ago)
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 31 March 2013 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
A quite stylish and filmic looking episode, but otherwise just another nonsensical, hyperactive runaround. I happened to see a Chris Ecclestone episode recently - End of the World, or whatever it was called - in which the Doctor sat down and had a normal, quiet conversation with his companion. I can't imagine Mat Smith doing that anymore.
― DavidM, Sunday, 31 March 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not against hyper per se, but it sometimes feels like, among the hyper, the show loses the courage of its convictions. Standout moment for me was when boss villain woman revealed that she'd been indoctrinated by the Great Intelligence as a kid.
― cardamon, Sunday, 31 March 2013 11:39 (eleven years ago) link
Standout moment for me was any moment with Jenna-Louise Coleman on screen
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 31 March 2013 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
But seriously, it wasn't awful. Definitely not the worst opening episode and I think The Doctor/Clara relationship has potential. But I should mention on that point that I don't retract in horror at the idea of The Doctor and a companion flirting or moving into vaguely romantic territory or whatever the way some others seem to, and it's been frequently mentioned (or skirted round) in interviews that this could happen here.
Not really too aware of what the "ARCS" are for this series or of the plans for the Anniversary, but they should probably just make the programme being advertised in this fan-made trailer tbh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8g5BrLm7uQ
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 31 March 2013 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
Web Of Fear is way better than Abominable Snowmen (not that Snowmen is bad)
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Sunday, 31 March 2013 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
It was practically a re-run of the 'Rose' Christopher Eccleston opening episode, with the Shard standing in for the London Eye this time.
― ex-ex-gay (Bob Six), Sunday, 31 March 2013 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I said that - with the "next time" teaser also looking mightily similar to the second ep of Ecclescake's series as well.
― ailsa, Sunday, 31 March 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
Gaiman has written the penultimate episode of this series, by the way.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 31 March 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
As long as he doesn't chew on anyone's postcards, that's fine.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Sunday, 31 March 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
debate is raging on my Twitter feed on whether or not nu-Who (I think both this latest episode specifically and the recent period in general?) is sexist / at least v dubious wrt gender roles. I've seen only bits and pieces, not enough overarching plots and such to judge, so what does ILX think?
― a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 31 March 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
Moffat era is a bit.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 31 March 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
I think Moffat gets a bad rap for this -- there is sexism in his writing but I will argue w/anyone who thinks that RTD was less so. How was Rose sobbing on a beach that her life was worthless until the Doctor came along was in any way progressive?
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Sunday, 31 March 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
I wouldn't say it's progressive, but writing a storyline doesn't have to avoid emotion. Catherine Tate obviously the best of the companions on that front. I just think Moffat tends to reduce women to sassy puzzles that need to be figured out. Rory probably the most emotionally complex character of this era.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 31 March 2013 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
RTD would never have let that "Is it a demon?" / "It's a woman" / *monk crosses himself* joke past, as an obvious example.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 31 March 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
― ex-ex-gay (Bob Six), Sunday, 31 March 2013 23:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ailsa, Sunday, 31 March 2013 23:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i do wonder (going out on a limb here) whether moffat's look-at-me ultracleverness pissed off even the bbc so much that they asked him to do a simple opener this year.
taking or leaving that, this episode had to be all about introducing clara (AGAIN) and her relationship with the doctor (AGAIN), so the plot had to be in service of that.
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 31 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
and by the 50th anniversary dealio moffat will be back to super-hyper-oh-what-a-delicious-genius-am-i cleverclogs. there was enough timey-wimey clara dialogue planted throughout this to suggest that it's shooting back up to pandorica levels of self-indulgent puzzling in short order.
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 31 March 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
The debate on sexism/gender politics is essential, but IMO I think we're all overlooking a very important issue: Eleven's bow-tie is possibly clip-on?
― Leeena Dunham (Leee), Sunday, 31 March 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
Rory probably the most emotionally complex character of this era.
Rory's misogynist car is my favorite ilx screen name of this era.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Monday, 1 April 2013 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
is this the third or the fourth moffat plot that's centred on people getting trapped as ghosts and echoes inside technology? you'd think someone would point it out to him.
― jonathan livingston seapunk (c sharp major), Monday, 1 April 2013 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
'centred' is wrong, there - used the image of.
I wonder who will be a viable show runner once Moffat quits? There's no stand-out writer under him the way he was under RTD. Hopefully they'll find some new blood rather than give the gig to one of the many mediocre hacks writing for the show.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 1 April 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
kind of crap
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 1 April 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link