Star Wars 7 shit talk

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Be funny if after Abrams makes his CGI-rich Star Wars, Lucas goes back and remakes the effects with practical models, mattes, etc.

Wrench in the works here is that this is not a reboot. What made the Abrams "Star Trek" so solid was that he was, working off of and correcting (or at least compensating for) decades of missteps and mythology. This, on the other hand, will have to fit into some grander narrative, and Abrams has been less than solid when it comes to actually telling new stories. Not that the story of "Star Wars" is particularly compelling as more than boilerplate. Anyway, any hack could have made this movie - Richard Marquand! - but at least they picked a competent hack.

as long as Lindelof stays away from it...

Oh, God, I can only imagine.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far away ... that may be heaven ...

the idea that the Star Trek reboot cleared away decades of crust is odd given that the movie is nothing but callbacks and references to even the the lowliest of canon details, and I doubt that he would be prevented from doing the same with Star Wars.

Who cares really. We live in an era of po-mo fan-fiction cinema. No going back.

Star Trek movie was some bullshit imo, but its approach almost inherently is better suited to Trek than SW. the Abrams approach to casting and storytelling will probably result in a bunch of vacant Hayden Christensen types milling around unsubtly referencing the original trilogy.

it'd be almost impossible not to improve on Christensen

I dunno -- Star Wars seems a lot more amenable to endless referencing given its samurai movie pedigree and the "rhyming" thing.

to me the Lucas prequels were at least interesting as a deterioration of the original creator's sensibilities, like listening to a really shitty later Prince album. Abrams pilots his projects like an effective technician and may do something modern and mildly clever, but at the end of the day is a guy whose imagination could never create a Star Wars or Star Trek or Mission Impossible of his own.

^^^ otm x1000

But he's not being asked to make a new thing. He's the new manager of a franchise/brand, which is what he is perfectly suited for.

I think he also has the sense to not, say, create a character like Dexter Jettster. Can you guys think of the worst/cheesiest thing he's come up with? I haven't seen "Lost" or most of his movies. Star Trek was great tho.

Star Trek was a great Star Wars movie. Maybe this next Star Wars movie will be a great Star Trek movie?

I would see a muppet version of this movie

I agree 1000% with some dude as well.

Well - except for the ST movie being bullshit. I enjoyed it but yeah - pretty much the epitome of breezy corporate filmmaking.

to me the Lucas prequels were at least interesting as a deterioration of the original creator's sensibilities, like listening to a really shitty later Prince album. Abrams pilots his projects like an effective technician and may do something modern and mildly clever, but at the end of the day is a guy whose imagination could never create a Star Wars or Star Trek or Mission Impossible of his own.

― some dude, Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'll take that over whatever it was that george lucas did, which imo wasn't just like, a watered-down version of when he was good... its like at least on a bad prince album you can be reasonably sure the musicianship will be super tight etc...

Wonder how much Disney would have to pay Fox to license the fanfare for use before the opening crawl?

― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.)

Shit, hadn't considered this! It's a really important part of the theme tune.

Oh shit. I never thought about that!

Instead of the fanfare they'll just have a Star Destroyer going NNNNNNNRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN over the top of the camera then instead of the SW theme Abrams will play something by the Beastie Boys.

Then they issue a flood warning on account of all the fanboy tears.

Eh, ownership is pretty loose these days. I mean, Disney owns Marvel, but it's Universal that has the Hulk and Spider-Man rides. And Harry Potter, which is of course a Warner Bros. property. If anyone's worried about the fanboy shit, just wait until the Bad Robot logo shows up before the crawl.

Hey, maybe the crawl can just recount the history of the property. "And then the mighty Lucasfilm sold its rights to Disney, but while the merger went through, some preferred the way things used to be, and proved willing to fight for it. A galactic alliance of nerds, fanboys and dorks, calmed by the recruitment of General J. J. Abrams, was soon up in arms about the fate of the Fox fanfare, a battle whose results still hang in the balance ..."

lol

Still better and more bloodstirring than the TPM opening crawl.

Why couldn't they license it?

because that would be silly

u think disney is going to pay $4billion for something and then use another company's branding

Maybe they can license just the fanfare and have it playing off in the distance over a shot of a starfield or something before the "A long time ago" pops up.

the something they paid for was branding, so why not?

Clearly the solution is to crowdsource/Kickstarter the licensing fee to use the old Fox fanfare.

they can just use the flute edition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGwwJEE7k48

the something they paid for was branding, so why not?

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:43 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you just trolling me at this point or

As long as it dips to blackness and silence before the John Williams score begins, we will all survive.

Shall we take bets on original cast cameos?

I hear Salacious Crumb is in talks

are han/leia's kids supposed to be characters in this?

Sony is paying Disney now to use a Marvel intro for Spider-Man. So whats the big deal about paying to use the fox fanfare?
Btw paramount's fanfare always sounded suspiciously like the opening to Star Wars which was always disconcerting to hear after every episode of tng.

as above, the only one I'm really rooting for is Ben Burtt as Artoo. Wouldn't object to a bearded and be-robed Hamill, which would be probably the least-forced thing if the new movies are about Jedi, since Luke presumably is the one founding the new jedi order even if nothing whatsoever of the EU is used as a source. Would think Ford is less likely than Hamill/Fisher to participate without Lucas?

James Earl Jones cameo as an anthropomorphic leonine alien.

seems hard to discount the possibility of ghost-Yoda as well

Disney got ILM and Skywalker Sound in the deal so they will presumably be making cameos as the VFX and sound design outfits

Would think Ford is less likely than Hamill/Fisher to participate without Lucas?

see link in the OP!!

cgi alec guinness as ghost-obi wan. involved in capers with ghost-jar jar.

I could see JJ throwing in someone yelling "It's a trap!" and other SW memeworthy references.

I hope the Jedi academy isn't in some sparkling faceless CGI city but some ancient temple overgrown w crazy vines and ancient carvings.

luke's son listening to yub nub on his lightradio

u think disney is going to pay $4billion for something and then use another company's branding

― zero dark (s1ocki), 27. tammikuuta 2013 20:32

Use the Disney magic castle intro, but at the end the camera pans to the night sky, which becomes a field of stars + get John Williams write a new bridge called "When You Wish Upon a Star Wars" = problem solved.

What is the rhyming thing Philip Nunez mentions above?

nerdcore rappers

hl: clip of George Lucas justifying one of the various examples of pointless callback/recycling of story elements with less impact in the prequels: ''See, it's like poetry, they rhyme.'' Referred to frequently in the long Redlettermedia reviews of the prequels as evidence of GL's creative bankruptcy. See the ''crimes of george lucas'' thread for more.