to me the Lucas prequels were at least interesting as a deterioration of the original creator's sensibilities, like listening to a really shitty later Prince album. Abrams pilots his projects like an effective technician and may do something modern and mildly clever, but at the end of the day is a guy whose imagination could never create a Star Wars or Star Trek or Mission Impossible of his own.
― some dude, Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'll take that over whatever it was that george lucas did, which imo wasn't just like, a watered-down version of when he was good... its like at least on a bad prince album you can be reasonably sure the musicianship will be super tight etc...
― zero dark (s1ocki), Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder how much Disney would have to pay Fox to license the fanfare for use before the opening crawl?
― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.)
Shit, hadn't considered this! It's a really important part of the theme tune.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 27 January 2013 08:20 (eleven years ago) link
Oh shit. I never thought about that!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 January 2013 08:22 (eleven years ago) link
Instead of the fanfare they'll just have a Star Destroyer going NNNNNNNRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN over the top of the camera then instead of the SW theme Abrams will play something by the Beastie Boys.
― Prisoner: Cell Block J/K (snoball), Sunday, 27 January 2013 08:50 (eleven years ago) link
Then they issue a flood warning on account of all the fanboy tears.
― Prisoner: Cell Block J/K (snoball), Sunday, 27 January 2013 09:45 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, ownership is pretty loose these days. I mean, Disney owns Marvel, but it's Universal that has the Hulk and Spider-Man rides. And Harry Potter, which is of course a Warner Bros. property. If anyone's worried about the fanboy shit, just wait until the Bad Robot logo shows up before the crawl.
Hey, maybe the crawl can just recount the history of the property. "And then the mighty Lucasfilm sold its rights to Disney, but while the merger went through, some preferred the way things used to be, and proved willing to fight for it. A galactic alliance of nerds, fanboys and dorks, calmed by the recruitment of General J. J. Abrams, was soon up in arms about the fate of the Fox fanfare, a battle whose results still hang in the balance ..."
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 January 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― some dude, Sunday, 27 January 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
Still better and more bloodstirring than the TPM opening crawl.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
Why couldn't they license it?
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
because that would be silly
― zero dark (s1ocki), Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
u think disney is going to pay $4billion for something and then use another company's branding
Maybe they can license just the fanfare and have it playing off in the distance over a shot of a starfield or something before the "A long time ago" pops up.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
the something they paid for was branding, so why not?
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 27 January 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Clearly the solution is to crowdsource/Kickstarter the licensing fee to use the old Fox fanfare.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 January 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
they can just use the flute edition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGwwJEE7k48
― 乒乓, Sunday, 27 January 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:43 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
are you just trolling me at this point or
― zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
As long as it dips to blackness and silence before the John Williams score begins, we will all survive.
Shall we take bets on original cast cameos?
― Nate Carson, Monday, 28 January 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
I hear Salacious Crumb is in talks
― fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
are han/leia's kids supposed to be characters in this?
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:18 (eleven years ago) link
Sony is paying Disney now to use a Marvel intro for Spider-Man. So whats the big deal about paying to use the fox fanfare?Btw paramount's fanfare always sounded suspiciously like the opening to Star Wars which was always disconcerting to hear after every episode of tng.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 28 January 2013 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
as above, the only one I'm really rooting for is Ben Burtt as Artoo. Wouldn't object to a bearded and be-robed Hamill, which would be probably the least-forced thing if the new movies are about Jedi, since Luke presumably is the one founding the new jedi order even if nothing whatsoever of the EU is used as a source. Would think Ford is less likely than Hamill/Fisher to participate without Lucas?
James Earl Jones cameo as an anthropomorphic leonine alien.
― (panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
seems hard to discount the possibility of ghost-Yoda as well
― (panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
Disney got ILM and Skywalker Sound in the deal so they will presumably be making cameos as the VFX and sound design outfits
― (panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
Would think Ford is less likely than Hamill/Fisher to participate without Lucas?
see link in the OP!!
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
cgi alec guinness as ghost-obi wan. involved in capers with ghost-jar jar.
― Bill Goldberg Variations (Merdeyeux), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
I could see JJ throwing in someone yelling "It's a trap!" and other SW memeworthy references.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 January 2013 05:41 (eleven years ago) link
I hope the Jedi academy isn't in some sparkling faceless CGI city but some ancient temple overgrown w crazy vines and ancient carvings.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
luke's son listening to yub nub on his lightradio
― abanana, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
― zero dark (s1ocki), 27. tammikuuta 2013 20:32
Use the Disney magic castle intro, but at the end the camera pans to the night sky, which becomes a field of stars + get John Williams write a new bridge called "When You Wish Upon a Star Wars" = problem solved.
― Tuomas, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
What is the rhyming thing Philip Nunez mentions above?
― cloacachella (how's life), Monday, 28 January 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
nerdcore rappers
― bleh (latebloomer), Monday, 28 January 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
hl: clip of George Lucas justifying one of the various examples of pointless callback/recycling of story elements with less impact in the prequels: ''See, it's like poetry, they rhyme.'' Referred to frequently in the long Redlettermedia reviews of the prequels as evidence of GL's creative bankruptcy. See the ''crimes of george lucas'' thread for more.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc
― abanana, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
It does lead to an interesting question that I'll be curious to see how Abrams addresses it, though, namely: What constitutes "a Star Wars movie?"
With the Trek property, he could basically do whatever he wanted because it was explicitly a reboot and because there isn't so much formalized structure to "a Star Trek movie." But for Star Wars, there's a very formal (ritualistic) structure to the opening few moments. I have to assume that Disney wants to stick with that, but I guess we'll see.
― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Monday, 28 January 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
All further SW opening credits to be done like Enter the Void.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Would pay to see that, as long as the movie ended after the credits.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
So Han Solo, Yoda and Boba Fett solo movies as well as SW VII, VIII, and IX all in a span of 6 years? I guess "market saturation" is a non-word?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
Doesn't appear to be a problem for the Marvel franchise.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
Not saying I think its a good idea, but all of the Avengers spin-offs from the last three years or so have done well enough to at least justify their existence.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
not quite the same. All the Marvel movies were leading up to the Avengers, these Star Wars solo films don't have any reason to exist other than fan service/money
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
plus they're prequels. And we know how that goes
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
Number None otm - Avengers thing is totally unique actually
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
spinoffs FIRST, ensemble movie last
Marvel characters have existed as self-sustained characters for decades. Dudes like Yoda and Han Solo have only ever been seen in the Star Wars context. They haven't had their own parallel solo titles since the 60s or whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
lol as if the whole avengers thing isn't one THOUSAND percent fan service
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
/ money
This would be like giving Kermit the Frog or Miss Piggy (in more ways than one) their own solo spin-offs.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
in other words UTTERLY UNTHINKABLE
― zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised it hasn't been done yet!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
wait til you guys hear about the Jabba the Hut and Darth Maul movies
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link