Is this anti-semitism?

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If I am allowed to hate a good many of the actions and policies of my own nation, while still feeling able to see many good traits and qualities in it and its people, then I can just as well hate many of the actions and policies of Israel without getting confused about whether I "hate jews". But, as a goy, if I criticize Israel's policies, I'm never going to be free of the suspicion that I'm just disguising that I am anti-semitic.

**imploringly throws his hands skyward, tilts head back and speaks as if to god**

SUCH an aggravation!

Aimless, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:16 (twelve years ago)

I think it's a sophomoric cartoon, but it didn't make me uncomfortable. It's just another absurd political cartoon. That said, I didn't see it as a cartoon about Bibi desiring the death of Palestinians as an end to itself. I think it's suggesting he's building what he's building on the oppression of the Palestinians.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:17 (twelve years ago)

I do feel he is, to some extent, rallying people behind him by playing up an anti-Palestinian bent.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:18 (twelve years ago)

it's not like people use the term "americaists" in criticizing the USA

we prefer "imperialist dogs" thanks

mh, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:49 (twelve years ago)

what happened to "capitalist roaders" as an epithet?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:50 (twelve years ago)

Replaced by "capitalist pigdogs" iirc.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:51 (twelve years ago)

occupied peasants need to draw a distinction between local idiocy and colonial power

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:52 (twelve years ago)

lol no tho seriously best of all possible worlds

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:53 (twelve years ago)

spooky...
http://i.imgur.com/Cvgdir9.png

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:03 (twelve years ago)

Also, this is anti-semitism: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/28/israel_admits_ethiopian_jewish_immigrants_were_given_birth_control_shots/

The article and the comments. Israel did not admit to coercively giving birth control to Ethiopian Jews, but clearly that's what the article wants to suggest and in exchange it gets a dozen comments that say, "Next up: Death camps for the Palestinians," "Man, that is no exaggeration! I wonder when they'll start tattooing numbers on people's arms," & "What a racist despicable cult; like the Nazis keeping the blood pure I guess."

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:18 (twelve years ago)

Yeah there's a fair amount of anti semitism going on in those comments,

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:20 (twelve years ago)

I think the anti semitism of the article is questionable though.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:23 (twelve years ago)

I'm aware this as already been discussed in other threads btw.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:24 (twelve years ago)

I think the headline and lead are designed to imply that Israel admitted to coercively giving birth control shots. That is certainly what my wife thought when I first showed her the headline.

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:24 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, it's a shit headline, but it's Salon and they produce a load of misleading headlines. The article does attempt to back them up, but as was discussed in the other thread, there are dubious qualities to that.

At this point I would say again that anti-Israel doesn't mean anti-Semite.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:32 (twelve years ago)

There's a lot of anti-America imperialism wrapped up in the Israel question, and I don't think that comes down to hating Jews at all.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 01:33 (twelve years ago)

the whole strain of "jews are the REAL nazis" "thought" is so despicable and wearying no matter where you come down on the issue, i guess it's parallel to the "affirmative action is the REAL racism" bullshit

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:35 (twelve years ago)

http://www.geraldscarfe.com/shop/politics/i-saw-a-baby-die-today/

A bit of context re: Scarfe's work - Assad literally drinking baby's blood.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 10:29 (twelve years ago)

"The more Israel exist the more it becomes evident maybe the Europeans of 20s and 30s were not so far off!"

No biggie. Just comments on Salon.

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 14:35 (twelve years ago)

hateful views in a comment section??? that's fucked up

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:05 (twelve years ago)

this is cute, should i get one for my desk at work? http://www.oldjewishmen.com/product/blood-libel-leibowitz-designer-toy

(comment on anti-semitism, not actually anti-semitic)

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:08 (twelve years ago)

$85.00

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:10 (twelve years ago)

vinyl anti-semitic kitsch is expensive!

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:11 (twelve years ago)

http://www.geraldscarfe.com/shop/politics/i-saw-a-baby-die-today/

A bit of context re: Scarfe's work - Assad literally drinking baby's blood.

― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 10:29 (5 hours ago) Permalink

this does actually make me feel a less strongly about the bibi cartoon

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)

Who are you guys?
Courtney Bernard, Yankel Farkash and Isaac Buchman. A group of independent artists who have each spent a fair share of our time in New York’s Lower East Side.

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)

bizarre

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/29/sunday-times-editor-benjamin-netanyahu-cartoon

caek, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 05:54 (twelve years ago)

how do ppl in the UK feel about having one (1) legitimate newspaper for the whole country, alongside an assortment of Murdoch mouthpieces and aspirants

Instagram Llewyn Davis (silby), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 08:57 (twelve years ago)

is that anti-Semitism? Is Rupert Murdoch Jewish? I wouldn't be shocked if he was tbh

Instagram Llewyn Davis (silby), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 08:57 (twelve years ago)

because he controls the media?

how's life, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 09:40 (twelve years ago)

the Indie's not that legitimate tbh

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 09:45 (twelve years ago)

Rupert Murdoch isn't Jewish. In fact, his two youngest kids were baptised in the River Jordan while godfather Tony Blair watched.

karl lagerlout (suzy), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 09:49 (twelve years ago)

and then a white dove landed on Tony's shoulder

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 09:52 (twelve years ago)

Rupert Murdoch has previous for talking about the "Jew owned press", despite owning the press.

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:07 (twelve years ago)

https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/269973016753102849

"Why Is Jewish owned press so consistently anti- Israel in every crisis?"

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:08 (twelve years ago)

https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/270209388478857218

"",Jewish owned press" have been sternly criticised, suggesting link to Jewish reporters. Don't see this, but apologise unreservedly."

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:09 (twelve years ago)

jop = nyt

How many of these effluential surveys do you take? (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:54 (twelve years ago)

he still has the ludicrous notion of himself as anti-establishment

nyt are his windmill of the day just as he tilted at various british grandees back in the day

How many of these effluential surveys do you take? (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:57 (twelve years ago)

how do ppl in the UK feel about having one (1) legitimate newspaper for the whole country, alongside an assortment of Murdoch mouthpieces and aspirants

― Instagram Llewyn Davis (silby), Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:57 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at least they have (1)

zero dark (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:26 (twelve years ago)

lol at the idea that the mirror is legitimate

caek, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:02 (twelve years ago)

nilmer-bait

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteArmyPropagandaPosterOfTrotsky.jpg

Mordy, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:58 (twelve years ago)

thats the cover of a co. kerry history book iirc

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:08 (twelve years ago)

Man, what do the Ruskies have against Sammy Davis Jr?

nickn, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:20 (twelve years ago)

http://forward.com/articles/170360/i-burn-like-a-jew-is-mexicos-th-most-popular-hash/

Mordy, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:34 (twelve years ago)

jesus

that futterwacken you like is back in style (how's life), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:44 (twelve years ago)

Who knew that Trotsky had prehensile toes?

Canaille help you (Michael White), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:54 (twelve years ago)

Looking at the url I thought this was about weed.

pandemic, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)

yeah I thought maybe jewish mexicans had a rep for toking

© all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 1 February 2013 15:32 (twelve years ago)

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/122877/germanys-most-annoying-jew

The Entebbe raid of 1976, Broder wrote, was his “private awakening.” At Entebbe, the Palestinian terrorists and their European comrades made a selection: They spared non-Jewish passengers while they continued to hold the Jewish ones as hostages. The Palestinians couldn’t tell on the basis of last names whether passengers were Jewish or not, so one of their German collaborators, Wilfried Böse, helped them out. When a Jewish passenger showed Böse his death camp tattoo, Böse is supposed to have responded that he was no Nazi, but rather an “idealist.” U.N. Secretary General Kurt Waldheim, whose Nazi past later came under scrutiny, condemned the Israeli action as a violation of Ugandan sovereignty, and the German “anti-imperialist” left agreed with Waldheim. In the aftermath of the Israeli raid, German Maoists expressed their solidarity with “his excellency Idi Amin.”

Broder, in disgust, turned away from the radical left. In the German leftist imagination, he later argued, Gaza became the Warsaw Ghetto, and Palestinians became Jews. “Never again” came to mean “don’t let our victims do what we did”; Germans, Broder said, loved to reiterate “the eternal German worry about whether the Israelis have learned the lesson of history.” “The Israelis are responsible for anti-Semitism” is now, Broder declared, the most prevalent form of anti-Semitism, in Germany as elsewhere.

Mordy, Friday, 1 February 2013 16:24 (twelve years ago)


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