I watched the short live action films. Are these always so dire?
There's almost always at least one or two outright disasters in the mix. Last year's was an above average slate, tho they ended up going for the most boring option. Lately, the smuggest, snarkiest entry tends to be the frontrunner -- i.e. God of Love and The New Tenants, which I'd argue is the possibly the single worst film to win an Oscar since Crash. I'm betting on Curfew this time around.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
i don't trust the academy to get the big stuff right, i expect about the same for the categories i know nothing about
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Monday, 11 February 2013 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
I missed this list last year (and apparently The Artist's win happened after the voting): http://www.filmcomment.com/article/extended-trivial-top-20
I'd say most of the winners I've seen from the 50s and 60s were just about as bad as the winners from the last 15 years, but they are 100 percent OTM about #1.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 05:15 (eleven years ago) link
29. No Country for Old Men Joel & Ethan Coen, 200730. Out of Africa Sydney Pollack, 1985
o_0
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 05:16 (eleven years ago) link
I'm betting on Curfew this time around.
Well at least it was only the second worst one.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 11 February 2013 05:27 (eleven years ago) link
Agreed.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
every year it seems like there's at least one nominated short that's about the holocaust
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 11 February 2013 05:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.filmcomment.com/article/extended-trivial-top-20
no Gentleman's Agreement? it was the help of 1947.
― abanana, Monday, 11 February 2013 05:47 (eleven years ago) link
a couple of those 'worst' choices strike me as straight-up trolling ('all quiet on the western front,' 'midnight cowboy,' 'my fair lady').
i'd forgotten 'tom jones' won in '63: i'm a tony richardson fan but that is a pretty terrible, borderline-unwatchable movie.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 11 February 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
top ten mostly OTM but I woulda moved The Greatest Show on Earth into it.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
Have never bothered to watch it, but I've little doubt Cavalcade is, indeed, worse than Slumdog and probably the majority of that top 10.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
WORST PICTURE
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
Another take: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/the-5-worst-best-picture-oscar-line-ups-of-all-time
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
bullshit: two forgettable melodramas in "The Heiress" and "A Letter To Three Women,"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
kinda hard not to lol at the idea that 'performance,' 'night of the living dead,' 'hour of the wolf,' and 'faces' could conceivably have been nominated in 1968 (as awesome as they all are).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
1952 & 1958 are clearly as bad if not worse than 1956, too.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
did we ever do a best-of-the-best poll? i assume 'sunrise' would take it, assuming it counts.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 11 February 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
Annie Hall or All About Eve would offer competition.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, those three plus Lawrence of Arabia, Rebecca, Bridge on the River Kwai, The Godfathers I & II and No Country all seem like solid bets for top 10.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
Bridge on the River Kwai is the most pedestrian of those in retrospect.
so are bloggers hyping Emanuelle Riva and Ang Lee wins outta boredom? (I can see the first happening in a babe-split vote. Also the AAs are on her 86th birthday.)
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
Ang Lee more out of the vacuum at the top of that category and the perception that no one loves Lincoln.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Riva is kind of classic wishful thinking among the more guilty-conscience'd Oscar bloggers.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
not about this year, but hey
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8942448/tournament-determine-worst-academy-award-moment-modern-history
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
eh – I'm fine with Landau beating Jackson.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Contenders I think were far from injustice (and, in some cases, were totally defensible):
The Dark Knight for Best PictureSamuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction loses to Martin Landau in Ed WoodAl Pacino never winning for The GodfatherDriving Miss DaisyMartin Scorsese denied until The DepartedJohn Cazale, never nominated in his tragically way-too-short, but nearly perfect careerAngelina Jolie kissing her brotherBjörk's swan dress
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
are you arguing that Grantland is right to champion these lost causes or that these people and films deserved to lose?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction loses to Martin Landau in Ed Wood
only a cause for ppl who love superfly shtick i guess
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
xp I wouldn't have put them in brackets for the worst things Oscar has ever done, for various reasons.
Like I don't consider The Departed to be radically cut-rate compared to Goodfellas, and I think Al Pacino wasn't the best in his category in either of his at bats.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
And Bjork's swan dress was the best thing to ever hit that stage.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
and Driving Miss Daisy is good.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
Good enough that its win isn't offensive, given Do the Right Thing wasn't up.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, The Departed is tepid
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
So is Goodfellas.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
If that doesn't make posts very much in character, I have no character.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
Better to give Marty his Oscar for that one over the previous two nods.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
No joke. As far as I'm concerned, both Scorsese and the Academy dodged 2 bullets there.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really understand the constant retrospective defenses of movies that didn't win but turned out to be huge and monumental in the mainstream, like pulp fiction's lack of oscars isn't exactly hurting its reputation with anyone
well i do understand it i guess
― Alice 2 Chainz - "I Luv Dem Bones" (zachlyon), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, The Aviator is at least as "good" as The Departed
u know what else sucked, neither King Kong nor Duck Soup won in '33 and as a result no one watches them
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
you're insane. People under 30 watch Duck Soup all the time.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
following your line of reason everyone has seen Gentleman's Agreement
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
LOL
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
damn Alfred, you haven't had a moment like that since ya fell for The Onion.
Alas Eric seems to know too many ppl under 30!
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
There was like three or four layers of sarcasm going on in the last few posts.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
a veritable carapace.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
the only sincere remark was the one about the Kazan movie about John Jewfield.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
that one was about on a par w/ Philadelphia methinks
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
I still maintain The Aviator is really underrated. But I like Gangs of New York too so maybe that invalidates all my opinions forever.
― ryan, Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
if The Aviator had won and ILX had gone apeshit over its sparkling repartee Morbs would hate it too
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:56 (eleven years ago) link
I don't hate The Departed, at least it's not Cape Fear or Hugo.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 February 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
Scorsese may be the one director where Morbius and I seem to be close to 100% on the same page.
― clemenza, Saturday, 16 February 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link