A John Carpenter Poll

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Meanwhile, Christine is one of the fastest-selling-out Blu-rays in Twilight Time history. Should I sell my review copy for the asking price of $100+?

alternately mean and handsy (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Great things about Prince of Darkness:

- Dennis Dun tears it up. "You could almost pass for Asian" - "Normally I like being dominated by two women." - and "Holy Shit!" which is perhaps the truest line in the whole movie -- the reaction you're expecting everyone else to express.

- Donald Pleasance. In a reversal from his role of the hunter from Halloween, he becomes the hunted.

- Victor Wong - doesn't seem completely there.

- 'This is a transmission' - the grainy dream.

calstars, Friday, 8 August 2014 02:29 (ten years ago) link

-The final flicker of light illuminating a desperate Catherine just after the mirror shatters.

how's life, Friday, 8 August 2014 10:01 (ten years ago) link

i wish he'd have done more like Starman. was it influenced by ET or was it written years earlier?

piscesx, Friday, 8 August 2014 10:06 (ten years ago) link

-Victor Wong: "Cause precedes effect - fruit rots, water flows downstream. We're born, we age, we die. The reverse never happens. None of this is truth! Say goodbye to classical reality, because our logic collapses on the subatomic level into ghosts and shadows."

how's life, Friday, 8 August 2014 10:09 (ten years ago) link

also:

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/SG4FemqT-7I/0.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/mXhgjCp.jpg

calstars, Friday, 8 August 2014 11:01 (ten years ago) link

Confirmed sexist and proud of it! Hey, I was just joking? What happened? You talk numbers, you get romantic. You talk people, you clam up.

how's life, Friday, 8 August 2014 11:12 (ten years ago) link

- 'This is a transmission' - the grainy dream.

This is one of my favorite things in any horror movie ever.

Prince of Darkness was the first horror movie I saw in the theater at age 13 or so. It scared THE HELL out of me, with the transmissions triggering my imagination like few other things.

five months pass...

NYC retro next month, he will attend

http://www.bam.org/film/2015/john-carpenter-master-of-fear

I might go to The Thing if someone holds my hand.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link

NPR is streaming his new album

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Friday, 30 January 2015 00:37 (nine years ago) link

JC used to harp about trouble getting funding to make his movies, and because I am such a huge fan I would feel bad for him. But his last four movies have been so bad that even a big budget could not have helped, and he has no one to blame but himself for that. Prince of Darkness and In the Mouth of Madness fine last gasps of his not quite genius but great talent nonetheless.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 January 2015 00:42 (nine years ago) link

That one he made a couple of years ago, for hire, with what's-her-face, that took place in the mental asylum, was so bad I was embarrassed for everyone involved. His two "Masters of Horror" eps were good, though.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 30 January 2015 00:47 (nine years ago) link

I think I made it 10 minutes into the asylum one.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 January 2015 00:57 (nine years ago) link

Despite Ward (which I haven't seen), most of his "recent" films were so long ago I don't think they're much evidence to go on.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 January 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link

Carpenter's quality control has always been iffy, but it seems to be completely broken now

I'd love to see The Thing on a big screen, ideally as a double feature with the Hawks version

Brad C., Friday, 30 January 2015 01:06 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

Prince of Darkness (1987) 0

:|

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:36 (five years ago) link

-Victor Wong: "Cause precedes effect - fruit rots, water flows downstream. We're born, we age, we die. The reverse never happens. None of this is truth! Say goodbye to classical reality, because our logic collapses on the subatomic level into ghosts and shadows."

― how's life, Friday, August 8, 2014 3:09 AM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yessss

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:38 (five years ago) link

http://wingkong.net/mm/sounds/ - under Egg Shen's, the glee in the last word of "And now for some bad news. Ready?" never fails to make me laugh.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:45 (five years ago) link

Lo Pan's "Indeed!" also.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

all of those posts are gibberish to me

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:54 (five years ago) link

I don't have much experience with John Carpenter, but I did see Halloween with my best friend when it came out. It was so traumatizing that neither of us has ever wanted to watch a horror film like that again

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:09 (five years ago) link

Victor Wong makes pretty much every line he speaks quotable

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:10 (five years ago) link

I mean you can't beat
Egg Shen: "Lo Pan is down there."
Jack Burton: "Down where?"
Egg Shen: "Where is the universe?"

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:11 (five years ago) link

yeah ok

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:15 (five years ago) link

If Halloween traumatized you, you were probably 100% otm in your subsequent avoidance of horror films. Because Halloween is basically a Saturday morning cartoon relative to the genre as a whole.

Carpenter rocks, haven't seen Prince of Darkness in a very long time but I own it so I should rectify that. Have a perverse semi-regular desire to rewatch Vampires and Ghosts of Mars, which are both bad but which I feel like I must've seen a dozen times each in college so there's some nostalgia fogging my judgment there.

Just realized I have an unwatched copy of Someone's Watching Me! (which is mysteriously missing from this poll) so, heck, maybe Halloween (the holiday not the movie) needs to start super early this year.

Really, the zero votes for In the Mouth of Madness is the most unconscionable thing about these poll results. Preposterous. Simply preposterous.

xxp OL lol, I will take that under advice and guidance

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 04:03 (five years ago) link

I never saw The Thing, looking forward to it

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 04:12 (five years ago) link

Because Halloween is basically a Saturday morning cartoon relative to the genre as a whole.

Somewhat? A lot of slasher horror is really ineptly done and you get a couple jump scare scenes that work but too many lean on gore or ride a trend (hello, fake found footage) too far and end up boring.

Halloween is the movie with very good essentials, and pretty much only essentials imo

mh, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link

Have a perverse semi-regular desire to rewatch Vampires and Ghosts of Mars, which are both bad but which I feel like I must've seen a dozen times each in college so there's some nostalgia fogging my judgment there.

i mean, you can say this for several "bad" movies but there's a cult around ghost of mars (especially on letterboxd). i haven't seen it but i really want to!

in the mouth of madness is right up there with prince of darkness for me, feels like carpenter folding all of his previous films into two projects

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link

xxpost Duuuuude, if Halloween freaked you out, probably best to avoid The Thing. I mean, it's great, really top notch, but it's also pretty far out there.

cannot explain why my opinion of prince of darkness evolved from "goofy but interesting and cool" to "mortally terrifying masterpiece" but here we are

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

I think I fell asleep watching Ghosts of Mars :/

mh, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

I thought The Ward was a little bit better than the consensus opinion would indicate. It's also one that people overlook on the "similar movies coming out at the same time" lists -- it's really close in plot to Shutter Island!

mh, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link

Prince of Darkness didn't quite click with me but I'm willing to give it more chances.

They Live, despite an interesting premise, is goofy as hell and probably actually a bad movie but I love it. Actually, I maintain a deep and sincere love for a lot of genre movies that are objectively bad movies so it makes sense that I feel the same about Carpenter's bad movies.

The ward is the worst just because of how bland and generic it is imo, I think the most interesting thing I can say about it is that if you showed someone any given non-scare scene the dialogue, acting and look would make them think they were watching the beginning of a porn clip

milkshake chuk (wins), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

feel personally indicted here and that's ok

mh, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

They Live gets deserved credit for a honest depiction of Reagan's America, it's worthwhile for that alone

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

It's true, I spent much of the '80s receiving ridiculously-protracted alleyway ass-kickings.

Ghosts of mars def qualifies as one of those “mashup of all his earlier films” deals (it feels like the 3rd escape movie with its urban-legendary outlaw reluctantly saving the day, the main siege is v precinct 13 &c) but does not come off well by reminding you of those films - the cast aren’t great and the rashomon structure really doesn’t work, for a start. I did quite enjoy it when it got into dumb action mode tho

milkshake chuk (wins), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link

they live feels more like a documentary every day

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link

I suspect Dan S. has higher horror tolerance now than he did in 1978, he should see The Thing

One of the greatest threads in ILX history: The Thing

Brad C., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link

xpost Except for the part where you don't even need special glasses to see the monsters.

carpenter tried to warn us, man, we’ve only got ourselves to blame

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

not enough ppl voted for the thing

mark s, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link

if everyone who’s ever posted on ilx voted for the thing it still wouldn’t be enough tbfttt

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

Although I love many of his movies and have seen them countless times, it's just possible that this is the Carpenter production I've seen (and, one assumes, I must then love) the most:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bR57i3Fkn4

Love that video, particularly Nick Castle hamming it up in a "sweater over button-down" ensemble.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link


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