*SPOILERS BUT NOT RLY
Holy shit, ridiculous typo, sorry guys
― Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
I enjoyed that typo
― Evan, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
yeah Daario seems more in-keeping with her Dothraki husband's steez, and she gets the added bonus of conversation
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
i love melisandre.
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
the description of him in the books (SPOILERS BUT RLY) are just so horrific, it's like the ultimate giveaway as to what a nurrd GRRM really is. "Ahhh, I know exactly the sort of guy that a stunningly beautiful and independent and strong-willed young queen with armies and kingdoms and dragons would be into" yeahhhh not rly George
That's what I meant by the blue beard comment upthread -- Daario's description sounded sooo ridiculous in the book that I could not understand how anyone could be attracted to him, let alone Daenerys.
― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
she's a teenager tbf
― Number None, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
so... i *shouldn't* dye my beard blue?
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
there was definitely a part of me that felt like GRRM came up with Daario after sitting through a friend's slideshow of a Burning Man trip
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/l6ilnOV.jpg
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
i kind of give grrm credit for being a bit wacky and not taking the obvious-good-looking-dude route like the show has. without thinking about it too hard, having grown up in an exotic play (relative to westeros) she might have more elaborate fantasies about what her dream date looks like.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
exotic place
i guess the question is more why and how is a mercenary on campaign dressed up so elaborately
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
until someone convinces me otherwise I'm gonna stick with "Burning Man"
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
to be clear i am not at all contradicting that, i have a feeling you are on to something
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
http://image.blingee.com/images18/content/output/000/000/000/78d/747046348_183465.gif
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
GRRM clearly drawing inspiration from Enid Blyton's Noddy series
wtf dude
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
serious bon jovi/wwe vibe off the guy in the show
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold his pointed mustachios were painted gold
― akm, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
Is it all that badly written?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
no, sometimes the descriptions are about food
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
As in:
"Tyrion's belly growled loudly as he helped himself to a trencher of pointed mustachios."
― Moodles, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
I always have this initial reaction that a mustachio is a mustache made of pistachios
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― Mordy , Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
well, that passage isn't really badly written, i suppose it is just the content that might offend. and if grrm is a bad writer it is definitely more to do with content then actual writerly aptitude. he definitely has the fantasy-series-writer curse of starting out with indulgent urges and then slowly losing the editorial checks on those as the series becomes more successful.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, i have read some fantasy books and i...i've seen some bad writing. terrible, horrifying writing. sometimes i close my eyes and," he trailed off, staring into space, mayhap into the very void.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
he was a tv writer for quite a while and that definitely shows in his writing. a lot of the first season of this show practically just used the book as the screenplay
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
The chapters feel perfectly paced to be scenes in a tv show.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah the first book is rather tightly structured for a 900 page novel
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
he's talked some about how the act structure of building to commercial breaks by cutting on a cliffhanger really influenced how he approached the chapter structure.
― Clay, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer)
The first is my favourite in some ways because of this. There's a neat inexorability to the plot which is missing in the later ones, particularly the last two.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the first book is really the best-written one
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
The third is the most exciting though.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
daario kept making me think of the groosalugg
― shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
"The third is the most exciting though."
For sure, I'm not sure I've ever read a book quite like it in that respect. Once it hits its stride it's totally relentless.
― Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
Seven Hells at the book's description of Daario! Still, I think it would have been more... interesting if the TV show had gone with something closer to that than the bland, romance novel guy that they did go with.
― DavidM, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
Daario morelilke Fabio amirite
― DavidM, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
FWIW I really don't think his prose is particularly bad. He's never going to win any awards as a stylist of course, but his writing is often pretty evocative, and he has a way of describing the big dramatic scenes in a somewhat understated way which is very effective. Also a good dialogue writer. As Roberto said, there's a ton of far far worse professional SF/fantasy writing out there.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I was pleasantly surprised tbh tho by the third book he's definitely showing tics and by 4/5 he's straight-up lazy/maybe even a little bored.
aka second act problems I suppose
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
GRRM vs. Robert Caro in prose style showdown
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
if hes too lazy to write the books and hes bad at writing why doesnt he just hire someone to do it for him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
I'm strangely upset that TV Daario doesn't have a gold tooth.
― llama del rey (Leee), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
― shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat (zachlyon), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 7:14 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, yes
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 21, 2013
he totally should tbh. too rockist tho.
(except I bet he's left instructions just in case something happens to him)
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
GRRM supposedly told Benioff and Weiss where he's going in case he kicks off.
― llama del rey (Leee), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
the show is going to catch up to the books if he doesn't speed up his process significantly on the last two
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
even if it takes 2 more seasons to get to the end of book 5, he needs to have book 6 ready by then and also suddenly has a year to write book 7
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link
i could imagine him writing the last season of the show before finishing the last book. i think he might revel in the howls of outrage
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
but the show could probably spin the balance of 3 + 4 + 5 into…maybe even 4 more seasons.
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:25 (eleven years ago) link
Also GRRM is only two years older than my mom and I want her around for another 30 years :( :(
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:26 (eleven years ago) link