I agree with some of the conclusions that author makes, but not how they arrived at them. Otherwise, why didn't I get tipped at fucking Arby's?
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
those sandwiches were hard to make. and I worked there when they required us to open and clean the slicer. I literally got wounds and grease burns FOR YOUR FUCKING BEEF 'N CHEDDARS. had you all tipped me maybe I wouldn't have had to keep stealing food while on the job
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
Because you were horrible at Arby's - my horsey sauce didn't even taste like horse.
― pplains, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
;_;
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
tipping is a nice thing to do
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm going to start wearing shades into restaurants so that I can tip them at servers and say "there you go" on the way out the door
― DJP, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
I am pro-tipping waitstaff btw as opposed to giving them 'livable wages', cuz I think they do better in the tip scenario. One of the advantages of the industry is that if you get into some financial trouble and need money quick, if you work for a good and busy restaurant, it's fairly easy to get some immediate cash, and pick up shifts to make extra (rather than having to wait for that paycheck to hit, which will be the same amount check to check).
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
We have talked about tipping on takeout before and it is the right thing to do if it is a place that is primarily a sit-down place. The person who prepared your take-out order didn't just "do work," she did work that she ordinarily gets tipped for, and preparing your take-out took time away from them giving the best possible service to these tables. In an aggregate way it is eating into their tips. When you are running around in the kitchen and have like eight things you should be doing to get your tables served and then you have to get a fucking to-go order together, it takes some kind of pride in your job to say "okay, I'm going to take the time to make sure this order is right, argue with the cook if it's wrong, make sure they have the condiments they might want but haven't specifically asked for" - all that stuff.
If it's just primarily a take-out place and they have a beat-up plastic jug there, I would still throw your change or a buck in there because a) why not, b) it might be going to, like, the delivery person to cover for the people who under-tip. Or for all I know they empty it out at the end of the shift and buy a six-pack to share - wtf do I care, it's 65 cents or a dollar or whatever.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link
I got a slice and a salad to go today, fully intending to dump the change in the tiny little jar on the counter. Total came out to $5.93. So what the fuck am I gonna do.
1.) "Oh, go ahead and keep the change."
2.) Get out my wallet, with the line behind me, and fish out a buck, hoping rainbows and bluebirds don't fall out in front of everyone when I stick it in the jar.
3.) Take the change and get out of there, noting in my head that I'll get them the next time, maybe even stuff a dollar in my shirt pocket.
Went with (3.)
― pplains, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
in that situation you are supposed to give them your watch.
― Treeship, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
ha, it seems i made the exact same post two years ago:
servers still often have to tip out on to-go orders, which i get most ppl dont really realize, but its always fun to lose money on an order― dearth of the hipster (Lamp), Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:40 PM Bookmarkthis can't get stated enough. One of my MANAGERS actually remarked that "hey, the whole reason I *order* food to-go is so I don't have to tip! Ha ha!" and I just about stabbed the guy. People who go to sit-down restaurants and order to-go food HAVE TO TIP at least a couple bucks. It's like, yeah, you're not sitting down and getting refills and as much checking-in, but the server (who has actual tables, who they are trying to GIVE attention to) is taking time away from that to run around and get your to-go order together, including all the behind-the-scenes service (making sure it's made right, arguing with the cook when it's not, including the condiments you might want, putting the ice cream in a separate styrofoam thing so it doesn't melt as fast etc etc) - - c'mon!sorry, sore spot, carry on y'all.― Doctor Casino, Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this can't get stated enough. One of my MANAGERS actually remarked that "hey, the whole reason I *order* food to-go is so I don't have to tip! Ha ha!" and I just about stabbed the guy. People who go to sit-down restaurants and order to-go food HAVE TO TIP at least a couple bucks. It's like, yeah, you're not sitting down and getting refills and as much checking-in, but the server (who has actual tables, who they are trying to GIVE attention to) is taking time away from that to run around and get your to-go order together, including all the behind-the-scenes service (making sure it's made right, arguing with the cook when it's not, including the condiments you might want, putting the ice cream in a separate styrofoam thing so it doesn't melt as fast etc etc) - - c'mon!
sorry, sore spot, carry on y'all.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
wait, what was the issue with #2 again? Rainbows?
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
2.) "Seven cents in change, eh? Well, just hold the phone for a second. I think I can do better than that! Let me just take a moment to... let's see... yes, yes... here it is! A whole dollar for your little tip receptacle. Now, don't spend it all in one place, haha. Good day! To you M'amm."
― pplains, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
as long as you aren't wearing a top hat i don't think you would come across that way.
― Treeship, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
tax evasion is about the only systemic advantage i can see for tipping vs paying people more.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
― pplains, Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:40 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
huh cool, amazing how the money you used to pay for the thing teleported itself from your wallet to the cashier without you having to do any of this
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
I got out the money I estimated it'd be, not realizing it was slightly more expensive. As I said, I'll know better next time when I teleport myself back over there.
― pplains, Friday, 21 June 2013 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
YOU TELEPORT YOURSELF BACK THERE RIGHT THIS SECOND
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 June 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://bushwickdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/teleport-gif.gif
― Treeship, Friday, 21 June 2013 03:08 (eleven years ago) link
go go pleasant plainers, you mighty tippin' pleasant plainers
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 June 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
(guitar solo)
― Treeship, Friday, 21 June 2013 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
Morphing is not a city in China, guys.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 June 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:42 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's also same-day money, which can be a big advantage. When I waited tables, I enjoyed the fact that I didn't have to wait every two weeks for my windfall, I took home cash nightly. (Though I also made about 1/6th what I make now, but that's cuz I worked in a shitty restaurant).
― Neanderthal, Friday, 21 June 2013 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
so it's like tivo for your money?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 21 June 2013 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
5 years after I quit waiting tables and started working as a legal assistant, I'm still not making what I was making waiting tables (at a seafood restaurant w/ lots of business clientele).
Tax evasion on tips is less common these days due to credit cards and the magic of the restaurant automatically reporting imputed tips for cash sales. Which means that if you get stuffed on a cash sale, you wind up in the hole for that sale.
― Je55e, Friday, 21 June 2013 11:33 (eleven years ago) link
yeah. restaurants are bad at the whole reconciling thing, too. there was one period of time where my restaurant, less than a year before it shut down, was doing horrible business. Friday nights, most waiters were taking home a measily $50. One night I worked a long shift and due to it being ridiculously slow, my tips plus the $2.13 an hour I got paid at the time actually came out to less than minimum wage. So naturally, I reported my tips accurately that night. Also, at the time I was in school, so I only worked a handful of shifts a week.
The restaurant was legally required to adjust my pay so that I made minimum wage. Instead, they altered the tips I reported to claim more than I actually made. Illegal, yes, but at the time I had just gone to corporate behind the GM's back about some unethical practice in our store, which they forced him to desist, so I was afraid of getting shitcanned for farting or coughing so I just said nothing.
― Neanderthal, Friday, 21 June 2013 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
How much should you tip your server for farting?
― kinder, Friday, 21 June 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
Restaurant managers can be the worst bosses. Either they have never worked as servers or bartenders, so they don't understand how to manage for those jobs*, or they did, and they get bitter about servers and bartenders making so much more than they are.
* At my last waiting job, we had a dipshit manager who was promoted from a few months of hosting after never having worked in a restaurant. He tried to write me up for using hand sanitizer instead of washing my hands after every single time I touched a used dish. Which is IMPOSSIBLE if you want to have time to do the rest of the job. He removed all the containers of hand sanitizer from wait stations.
― Je55e, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
ok, i understand tipping on take out from a sitdown restaurant now... i'm just never gonna get takeout from a sitdown restaurant then
― 乒乓, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think I've ever gotten takeout from a sitdown restaurant? Unless that includes like Indian places that have some perfunctory tables that no one ever uses.I didn't even know this was a thing people would do!
― chinavision!, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
We have to do this a fair amount, unfortunately.
― WilliamC, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
wait I don't even get takeout from Indian places, just delivery, in which case the delivery guy obviously gets a tip.
― chinavision!, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
I get takeout from sit down places all the time, because they're so popular/crowded that there's a two-hour wait for a table, and they don't take reservations.
― This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Friday, 21 June 2013 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
I get takeout all the time from pizza places and sandwich shops with tables. It's those weirdos who do shit like get takeout from Outback Steakhouse® that freak me out.
― pplains, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
I also don't eat a lot of good food tbh
― chinavision!, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
There were always people getting carryout back when I worked at Applebee's. Hey - a Bourbon Street Steak in a styrofoam box is still a Bourbon Street Steak, right?
― how's life, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link
Pizza places are just spare change tips though, as are sandwich shops? Again, mostly perfunctory tables, no servers, etc.Xpost
― chinavision!, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link
I've already got a pair of snowshoes and an old license plate on my wall. Why should I pay extra to sit down here?
― how's life, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
If I'm doing it wrong I'm willing to learn
― chinavision!, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
"Excuse me, I got my Hot Spicy Mama Extra-Special Fajitas as take out, and once I got home, they weren't sizzling. THEY WEREN'T SIZZLING."
― pplains, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
sometimes i pick up food at a bar/grill place near home and i always tip a few bucks. now, depending on who is working, sometimes i get a free beer while i wait. see, tipping is good for everyone.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 21 June 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
lol, pplains. I'm imagining the sizzling sound slowly dying over the course of the car ride home.
― how's life, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
― pplains, Friday, June 21, 2013 9:49 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You joke, but some dude in our restaurant who was dining in said this once. He complained that the Fajitas stopped sizzling 10 minutes into his meal, and when the waiter explained that they weren't designed to sizzle indefinitely, he complained that "well it doesn't taste the same anymore now". as if the sizzling was some magic candy that gave the meal pop rock flavoring.
― Neanderthal, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
But it IS, in a way.
Once at Chili's, my dad was served some fajitas that were acting very quiet. I pointed at them and asked if they were cold, and he said no. But why weren't they sizzling?
The waiter sheepishly explained that there's a special liquid they squirt out of a condiment container to make the fajitas sizzle, albeit artificially.
Everything is a lie.
― pplains, Friday, 21 June 2013 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
I bet that special liquid is water.
― carl agatha, Friday, 21 June 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
Haha the sizzling fajitas thing is so weird. Why is it JUST fajitas that get the special sizzle treatment?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 21 June 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
xpost it's the tears of those wronged by Fajita sizzle fraud
― Neanderthal, Friday, 21 June 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, June 21, 2013 10:13 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
*imagines a plate of hot dogs and fries sizzling*
― Neanderthal, Friday, 21 June 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
It's not just fajitas. I've seen it done with steaks and chicken and even once at an Indian restaurant, which was weird. It's basically just a matter of heating up a skillet and dumping liquid onto it, so yeah, like carl agatha said, water or whatever.
― how's life, Friday, 21 June 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
I worked at Ruby Tuesday, and they got the fajitas to sizzle by keeping the skillets under a 500-some degree heating element (salamander) and tossing the meat and veggies on at the last second. They would sizzle so much that the vapors would trigger the fire alarms at least half the time, and mall security would have to come reset them.
xp- no water at Ruby's, just juices
― Je55e, Friday, 21 June 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link