A John Carpenter Poll

oh man I forgot about the Quick and the Dead ugh

It was downhill after Quick and the Dead!

You mean there are worse films than Quick and the Dead??!?!

The Gift's mediocre.

I only saw it last night, and was AMAZED at the awful crash-zoom-piled-on-crash-zoom editing, totally destroying whatever semblance of tension the movie might have had.

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horribly shitty casting doesn't help either - I'd say its only marginally more of a trainwreck than Carpenters' Vampires, which is unforgiveably bad

Apparently Sharon Stone insisted on DiCaprio and Crowe, and even paid their fees to get them over the studio's wishes.

"Apparently"

man, is the thing great. just watched it last night. probably beats the first alien at its own game, and I love that one too.

anyone know what the deal is with the soundtrack? credits in the beginning say it's morricone, but that main theme (the synth piece that uses a bassy sound to a percussive effect - y'all know the one) sounds v. carpenter-ish. was the soundtrack a collabo in any way? gotta be.

so yeah, went with the thing. though really, everything I've watched had something to offer. big trouble comes in second for being so over-the-top. "son of bitch must pay."

"You mean there are worse films than Quick and the Dead??!?!"

TIN CUP, PEOPLE!

George Romero doesn't have any Music Of The Hearts in his closet though! PRAISE GEORGE!

Although he did do this haha.

He has a really good good movie to terrible movie ratio, in fact I think the only movie of his I've seen (which I'm surprised to realize is all of them except Dark Star) which I didn't at least enjoy a little was Ghosts of Mars. I voted BTinLC over The Thing though because I think BTinLC is one of the most well-balanced films, humor/horror/drama/etc-wise.

Why does everyone hate Ghosts of Mars so much? It's a fun enough remake of Assault if you ask me. It's just about as good as Escape From LA.

The Thing however is very special to me, one of the only movies ever to leave me nightmaring.

anyone know what the deal is with the soundtrack? credits in the beginning say it's morricone, but that main theme (the synth piece that uses a bassy sound to a percussive effect - y'all know the one) sounds v. carpenter-ish. was the soundtrack a collabo in any way? gotta be.

I think it was just Morricone (or more likely one of his assistants) scoring the film in the style of Carpenter. Which makes you wonder why Carpenter didn't just do it himself?

So, no-one likes Christine?

I saw "The Thing" at the Edinburgh Film Festival Premier, and some punter in the front row had had the bright idea of taking acid to enhance the experience. He was carried out screaming during the initial sequence with the dogs. Which certainly added to the intensity of the movie for the rest of us.

did he announce to that theater that he had taken acid or something?

This is the first poll where I've seen/heard every single one of the choices and if I had to pick a loser it would be Christine - not from any fault of Carpenter. If anything he did the impossible and made a lousy Stephen King story pretty good, but there's numerous weak points with it beginning with the two lead characters. I think with a different cast (it's 1983 what the hell, say Tom Cruise and Timothy Hutton) it could have been outstanding.

Memoirs Of An Invisible Man isn't a bad movie (if anything it's Chevy Chase's last good movie) but gets it bad rep only because Carpenter directed it straight-up with no real horror, blood, etc.

Ghosts Of Mars is silly fun and is to Assault On Precinct 13 as Escape From LA is to Escape From NY.

The Kurt Russell trilogy is unfuckwithable and are the best movies that either Carpenter and Russell have done. However, I gotta vote for They Live as it's my personal fave.

This poll really needs to have Elvis on it too

Keith Gordon >>>>>>>> Tom Cruise! Timothy Hutton >>> John Stockton though.

I think those duads are mismatched.

er, diads ... or duals ...

Stockwell, ahem. John Stockton >>>>> all of them (except Keith Gordon haha.)

Keith Gordon > John Stockton >> Timothy Hutton >>> John Stockwell >> Tom Cruise.

I think it was just Morricone (or more likely one of his assistants) scoring the film in the style of Carpenter. Which makes you wonder why Carpenter didn't just do it himself?

yeah, this makes sense. I do wish carpenter did the score since most of it is a little forgettable... but the main theme is pretty sweet, so whatevs.

I voted for They Live—(Rowdy Roddy Piper and Keith David! Meg Foster's weird eyes!), but almost voted for The Thing, so I'm glad of all the Thing love. The opening scene with the possessed husky!

tough poll

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

That was a bit of a landslide.

Prince of Darkness deserved more.

DAS DING IST NUMMER EINS, JA.

Haloween robbed

Everyone transferred their love to the Rob Zombie one. :P

Village of The Damned

Missed this one (in the poll and in real life)... being a John Wyndham fan I am intrigued. Some mad props in the IMDB comments, anyone here seen it?

Prince of Darkness and the Fog both deserve better, but in all fairness neither is the best film he did.

(xpost)I've seen it. It's good, but not a patch on the original.

I sort of didn't expect that. Even taking into account the split between BTILC and EFNY isn't enough to cover the dececit.

But, yeah, The Fog deserved at least one vote.

Lack of Halloween love is slightly surprising, it was my clear second choice (after The Thing, obv). To add to discussion upthread, when you look at Carpenter's output over the years he has made some great GREAT films. Does he have it in him to ever make another classic?

"I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time, I'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!"

Does he have it in him to ever make another classic

The two shows he did for the "Masters Of Horror" series were pretty good.

I was unaware of them - thanks for the heads up. Bitt0rr3nt time!

I think they are on DVD.

I certainly hope Carpenter's segments were better than Joe Dante's ludicrously overrated one about Republicans and elections, et al.

Cage and Carpenter both need a movie like this. I'm going to cross my fingers at least as this could be terrific...

Nicolas Cage to Star in John Carpenter’s Scared Straight

I think almost everyone has been subjected to Arnold Shapiro’s documentary Scared Straight! in High School. But for those who haven’t, the film follows a group of delinquent teens who are brought into a maximum security prison to help them change their ways. Supposedly, many of the teens in the original program were, in fact, “scared straight” and went on to lead happy, productive lives. As a result of the film, many states introduced “scared straight” programs in an attempt to rehabilitate young delinquents. While I was never a troublemaker, one of my high school sociology classes took a field trip to our local prison. I remember on the bus ride over, talking to friends about what would happen if a riot broke out while we were in the prison. It seemed like a great idea for a movie. Looks like someone else also had the same idea.

Nicolas Cage is in final negotiations to star in John Carpenter’s Scared Straight, a prison thriller about a troubled youth who is sent to the Scared Straight crime-prevention program. But when a riot breaks out and the prisoners take him hostage, a lifer (played by Cage) is forced to help the young man out. xXx director Rob Cohen was attached to the project when it was set-up at New Line. Carpenter is a huge step up. I’ve heard that the original spec script by Joe Gazzam was rather weak. Ron Brinkerhoff, who wrote The Guardian, has since rewritten the entire screenplay.

Con-Air 2

this will be terrible

It seemed like a great idea for a movie

WRONG

xXx director Rob Cohen was attached to the project when it was set-up at New Line. Carpenter is a huge step up.

lol @ Slashfilm's specious logic & editorializing based on films Carpenter made 25-30 years ago (tho I'm always up for a return to non-shittiness from JC)

the writer of The Guardian really shouldn't be allowed near a word processor.

Just watched Starman again for the first time in years...kind of an adult version of E.T.....love the "main theme" by Jack Nitzsche, though. Whatever happened to the great Charles Martin Smith? Now I need to re-watch Never Cry Wolf.....

89 minutes! It's probably a fair amount of residual trauma from seeing it as a kid, but I think it's genuinely creepy too. Also, poor Mrs Kobritz - she didn't deserve that. (In my head, she's Mrs Colditz, always has been.)

Morbs right again, Starman is grebt!

Underrated/under-remembered. Bridges got an Oscar nomination!

I can't believe I pasted a Jordan Ruimy tweet upthread smh

Underrated/under-remembered. Bridges got an Oscar nomination!

The love story angle is pretty well done too, as the alien becomes somewhat human but not fully so.