tipping

Ahhhh, okay. Please accept the retraction of my knee-jerk sarcastic post.

np ;-)

but you really should listen to "plays pretty for baby" its life-changing

otm

pretty sure anyone over the age of 16 is not going to have his or her life changed by a nation of ulysses album, but maybe some ppl are more impressionable than others.

is this the thread where i brag that i was at a wedding earlier this year that IS officiated? he gave a great little talk, best officiant

....is it?

i think this is the thread where you brag about that, yeah

*unfurls mission accomplished banner*

I tipped less than 20% for rly bad service again last night (being seated w/o a beer list or a mention of the fact that the kitchen was closing in 10 minutes and also inattentive svc throughout the night) but it was still over 15% but I still felt guilt city abt it

how do you express dissatisfaction in a restrunt these days?

yelp review

i wouldn't do anything about it, service is service is service and one shouldn't feel entitled to good service, it's just something you subject yourself to when you eat at a sit down restaurant. when you tie the perceived quality of service to the amount of money you leave, you start getting into these issues of control using money and everything just starts to feel gross.

If I am paying $50 before tip for a burger, a calzone, and three beers then I feel like I should be like served competently though

like I'm not even asking you to sing me a song but just tell me that the kitchen's about to close and give me a list of drinks that you have svp

hah well I always ask about the kitchen when it's late-ish. that's because I'm neurotic tho

oh but she asked us "are you having dinner?" and we said yes!

service is service is service and one shouldn't feel entitled to good service, it's just something you subject yourself to when you eat at a sit down restaurant.

srsly?

yep

How about good food?

what is good food? *strokes chin*

Seeing how most places are very keen to let newly arrived late diners know about the kitchen countdown, I'm sure the kitchen staff were more pissed off with this waitress than you could ever be. Still, it's a no-brainer for staff to provide all the menus you need at the outset, and save herself a bunch of bother by quickly getting on top of both food and drinks orders when it's that late in the evening's service. The low tip is your right here, and isn't a problem.

service is service is service and one shouldn't feel entitled to good service ... when you tie the perceived quality of service to the amount of money you leave, you start getting into these issues of control using money and everything just starts to feel gross.

I like this.

reminded this weekend that every restaurant on south beach automatically adds 18% gratuity because of europeans

rme at dayo

"it's just something you subject yourself to when you sit down at a restaurant"

yes when i walk into a restaurant gross to give them my business i'm gross thinking "do with me what you will"

i worked a service job past few months, we gave p awful service and received low tips but we stole lots of money from the till every shift so it worked out

i mean look i am the most patient person in the world when it comes to waitstaff, their jobs suck, but look, there are things you can do to not get a great tip from me. spill my drink on me and not take it off the bill? go out for a cigarette break while i wait 30 minutes for my food, and don't wash your hands? yeah, you're getting 10%. you have to do something pretty dumb, and have a don't-give-a-shit-attitude about it, but there are ways to get a shitty tip from me

having lived in thailand this summer has further made me appreciate any service at all tho, things are different over there

go out for a cigarette break while i wait 30 minutes for my food, and don't wash your hands?

pfft give me a break dog

sure here's 5 bucks, which is 10% of my bill

do tell us of the slights you suffered in thailand

tipping's great, isn't it?

i mean let me stress again that i am very, very forgiving and patient with waitstaff. i tip at least 20% 99% of the time. i used to get into seriously ugly arguments with my mother over the way she passive-aggressively verbally abuses waitresses. i'm just saying that there are rare instances where i am ok with not tipping well, and it's not just "you suck at your job" -- i can forgive that. it's "you suck at your job and are an asshole about it"

please tell us about how it was different over in thailand

in thailand it was no biggie, service sucked but no one expected tips either so it made for a laid-back atmosphere. i remember tipping everyone from waiters to tuk-tukkers like 300% for the first few days i was there because everything was so damn cheap, until other people were like uh people don't do that here

how did the service suck

i mean my friends and i would go to this one bar like 3 times a week, the owner would give us free food and shit because we were regulars, and the girl who did the drinks would still take 20 minutes to bring us our drinks! and we were friends with her! it's not something you get mad about, things are just different, for plenty of legit reasons. i ended up giving her about a month's pay when i left anyway

did you ever go hungry? was the food always cold when it was brought to the table? did you taste the spit that the cooks expectorated into the food? were there cigarette butts in your maitais?

reminded this weekend that every restaurant on south beach automatically adds 18% gratuity because of europeans

― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 22, 2013

The mistake was not eating before going to South Beach.

you were feeling mad at this girl for not bringing you your drinks sooner as you were eating the free food the owner had sent to your table?

where did i say i was mad?

didn't i just get through saying that my expectations for service were calibrated completely differently when i was over there?

lol caek

dayo, why are you trying to bait kevin into saying something racist?

ou ever go hungry? was the food always cold when it was brought to the table? did you taste the spit that the cooks expectorated into the food? were there cigarette butts in your maitais?

“What is the way to the abode of light? And where does darkness reside? Can you take them to their places? Do you know the paths to their dwellings? Do you give the horse its strength or clothe its neck with a flowing mane? Do you make it leap like a locust, striking terror with its proud snorting?"

manifesto from an american tipper

to all british people, europeans and foreigners without tipping in their country: you don't understand/like the tipping system - i get it and i'm okay with it. different strokes, etc.

to americans who don't tip (and i assume a lot of people who are critical of the tipping system fall into this category): may you rot in the ninth circle of cheapass bastard hell.

whether you vote republican and democratic, you are the worst stereotype of capitalism incarnated, sniping and begrudging anyone who you see as taking a piece of "your" pie. i honestly believe you are constantly looking for opportunities to make a quick buck at the expense of others, and your arguments against tipping make your character transparent. there may be good reasons against tipping culture, but if so, they're nothing but fig leaves for your cheap, selfish personality.

there is a strong possibility the type of person who will steal from your friends and neighbors if you are 99% sure you won't get caught. if you do vote for progressive democrats, you are the kind of hypocrite that likes to talk about helping the working classes but refuse to put your money where your mouth is, even for a measly $3 per week.

this thread has got my blood boiling, i'm probably overstating my case, but i honestly feel that Americans who don't tip do their small part to rip apart the fabric of society. especially when you say you don't tip because librarians and bus drivers don't get tipped - I call BS.

for those of you who DO tip but have problems with the custom, may i suggest going to house parties instead of bars. at least there you can smoke, mingle with under-21s if that's your bag, and do a whole bunch of other things that may be verboten in a public setting. all without tipping. also, in any community you will find some of the best local bands playing at house shows - you would be surprised how many truly magnificent musicians never play in public settings due to insecurity/lack of confidence or obliviousness/lack of interest.

who the fuck says people who are critical of the tipping system don't tip?

Jak

got it, thanks!

mingle with under-21s if that's your bag,

o_õ

would like to point out just for posterity for the reading challenged that i always tip well and think that people who don't are assholes

dayo, why are you trying to bait kevin into saying something racist?

― call all destroyer, Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:40 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

not trying to 'bait' him, trying to make him reveal what he really believes the purpose of tipping to be