Is this anti-semitism?

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i'm not familiar w/ the jew wearing a top hat stereotype

Mordy , Monday, 25 November 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

Jeiwsh banker - stems from the Rothschilds

if those are supposed to be fangs then blood libel / exsanginuation of volkisch lifeblood etc, glasses connote physical weakness compared to welding (?) glasses

ussr in 1948 is only covertly antisemitic so it's a supporting element of the attack on capitalism, anthropomorphized 'international finance' is always slyly antisemitic

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 November 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

no wait they are just supposed to be sunglasses uhm still

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 November 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

sometimes a set of sunglasses is just etc etc

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 November 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

i'm pretty sure 'jews = money' predates the rothschild banking empire

Mordy , Monday, 25 November 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link

i'm not familiar w/ the jew wearing a top hat stereotype

― Mordy , Monday, November 25, 2013 9:10 PM (2 hours ago)

The hats worn by religious Jewish men have changed over time & the top hat has definitely been associated with Jews in the past, though this could be more through the idea of Jews being seen to be very keen on hats in general at times when the most common hats happened to be top hats.

But even today (like, actually today, when I'm trying to research this), people often make the mistake of calling those wide-brimmed Orthodox hats top hats. It seems plausible that in the crude visual language of cold war propaganda the top hat could symbolise the Jew, though it seems equally plausible that the image just represents a melange of signifiers of the mean-spirited capitalist, with any Jewish elements included only because they are there in the larger stereotype. The scarf is the biggest mystery to me, but maybe it's just chilly in the West.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 25 November 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link

are you a russian major?

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 November 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

top hats just shorthand for power elements such as 'international finance' back in the day, when a lot of people wore hats and top hats looked different to the shorter, wider brimmed hats hasidic jews tend to wear

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

Had no idea the ethnic politics of hats were so complicated.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/154767/why-netanyahu-gave-pope-francis-his-fathers-history-of-the-spanish-inquisition

In other words, Ben Zion Netanyahu’s argument shifted the root blame for the Inquisition from religion to ingrained racial animus–from the spiritual to the secular. If one was going to give the pope a book about the Inquisition, then, this would be the one. Moreover, not only does the book’s revisionist reckoning partially absolve Christianity for Spanish persecution of the Jews, it offers a contemporary message of pressing relevance. At a time when Christian anti-Semitism has receded–evidenced not least by the friendly relations between the Vatican and the state of Israel–secular and racial forms of anti-Semitism have been on the rise, particularly in Europe, where a nearly a quarter of Jews say they are afraid to publicly identify as Jewish. The anti-Semitism diagnosed by Ben Zion Netanyahu is alive and well.

The elder Netanyahu’s account of the Inquisition then, whatever its merits as a reconstruction of the past, serves as a powerful warning about the dangers lurking in the present–one that his son doubtless intended to convey.

Mordy , Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

god, what a dick

Mordy , Friday, 13 December 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

his boycott is the least offensive part of the interview. also a stupid tactic, voice your dissent where it most needs to be heard.

bnw, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

he looks like Richard Gere

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 December 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

FB: Yes, the brainwashing works!

Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

What's Blumenthal's Goliath book like?

cardamon, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

From The Jewish Daily Foward: Lest anyone miss the point, many of his chapters have titles like “The Concentration Camp,” “The Night of Broken Glass,” “This Belongs to the White Man” and “How to Kill Goyim and Influence People.”

Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 December 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

roger-waters-antisemitism-unhelpful

caek, Monday, 16 December 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link

That's interesting, but what implication is it really trying to create, that the entire ASA is actually anti-semitic?

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 December 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link

or bds proponents within org

Mordy , Friday, 27 December 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link

lol Roger Waters has really saddled himself atop the Do What You Gotta Do To Get Press horse eh

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 27 December 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

?

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 27 December 2013 03:47 (ten years ago) link

Nicolas Anelka could face a Football Association charge for his controversial goal celebration during Saturday's 3-3 draw with West Ham.

Anelka confirmed to Downing that he did perform a quenelle, described by some as a "reverse Nazi salute", after his 40th-minute strike at Upton Park but as far as the West Brom hierarchy are concerned, it was done as a tribute to the French comedian Dieudonné, a friend of Anelka.

"This gesture was just a special dedication to my comedian friend Dieudonné," Anelka tweeted in both French and English on his official account.

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

Seems complicated. I doubt most neo-nazis have the dexterity for it.

badgers moved the goalposts (dowd), Sunday, 29 December 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link

It's like the nazi salute version of patting your head and rubbing your belly at the same time.

badgers moved the goalposts (dowd), Sunday, 29 December 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link

There is a fairly big debate in France regarding the sign being anti-semitic. I've seen some people in Montréal use it.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 29 December 2013 07:36 (ten years ago) link

debate - "is this gesture that Jewish groups keep telling us is offensive anti-semitic?"

turkey & stfuing (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 December 2013 10:07 (ten years ago) link

Ok where dyou want to do that

lorde othering (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 December 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link

debate - "is this gesture that Jewish groups keep telling us is offensive anti-semitic?"

― turkey & stfuing (Noodle Vague), Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:07 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The extremely dubious claim is that the jewish establishment (media, politicians) has turned the symbol into an anti-semitic one to isolate Dieudonné and pro-palestinian groups.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 29 December 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

In response to Dieudonne's numerous antisemitic statements, French Interior Minister Manuel Valls stated that Dieudonne was "no longer a comedian" but was rather an "anti-Semite and racist" and that he would seek to ban all Dieudonne's public gatherings as they amounted to a public safety risk. He can not be an anti-semite, the system is trying to make him an anti semite. How come a show man that had spent his life fighting rasism can be treated of this sort. The quennelle sign is a sign against the system and not an anti-semite sign.[3]

Mordy , Sunday, 29 December 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

Funny, all the French Jews I know are not crazy about Israeli policy towards Palestinians and they all say the gesture is COMPLETELY racist.

hatcat marnell (suzy), Sunday, 29 December 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

france giving hungary a run for its money!

where is the best place to be a jew in europe right now, in the sense of least likely to encounter anti-semitism

max, Sunday, 29 December 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

So I reported a facebook page for having a few guys doing la quenelle as their cover photo, it's for some kind of anti-sionist, pro-quebec separation, anti-capitalist TV show, all huge Dieudonné fans. Facebook took down the photo.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link

Funny, all the French Jews I know are not crazy about Israeli policy towards Palestinians and they all say the gesture is COMPLETELY racist

french jews are crazy racist tho

Lamp, Monday, 6 January 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link

I want you to explain that comment.

zanarkand bozo (abanana), Monday, 6 January 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link

When I think of french jews I think of the last time I was in Tel Aviv, when I was on the beach with H and K and this older french couple started talking to us. I guess I looked a little bit swaggy because i had my tortoise shell ray-bans and was kind of in shape, and the old guy was like "What kind of work - finance? finance?" And the way he pronounced it twice "fee-NAHNCE? fee-NAHNCE?" always rings out in my head.

He also told me I speak English "like an Englishman"

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 January 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

also my downstairs neighbor is apparently an older french jewish lady who smokes a lot and I can smell her damned cigarettes in my daughter's room, which is fucking gross. So I hate that lady.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 January 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

From personal experience (family, living there), a lot of french people are crazy racists.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 6 January 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

Yesterday I got into a Twitter argument with someone who insisted that anti-semitism didn't mean anti-Jew because not all semitic peoples are Jews. When I pointed out that "anti-semitism" was coined with that specific meaning, one that is widely understood and cited by all dictionaries and encyclopaedias, he responded that it was "confirmation bias" and most people were mindless sheep who didn't understand the true meaning of words. Predictably, it turned out that he was a raving anti-semite, in the popular sense of the word. Bigots love arguing about semantics.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:26 (ten years ago) link

"phobia means 'fear' but i'm not frightened of gays" etc

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link

lol they're not anti-semantic that's for sur

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:31 (ten years ago) link

Can't be anti-semitic if yr cool with Akkadians iirc

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:35 (ten years ago) link

i'd Hittite

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:40 (ten years ago) link


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