Is this anti-semitism?

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top hats just shorthand for power elements such as 'international finance' back in the day, when a lot of people wore hats and top hats looked different to the shorter, wider brimmed hats hasidic jews tend to wear

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago)

http://nordoniahillsbranch.akronlibrary.org/files/2013/01/monopolyman.jpg

Mordy , Tuesday, 26 November 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago)

Had no idea the ethnic politics of hats were so complicated.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago)

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/154767/why-netanyahu-gave-pope-francis-his-fathers-history-of-the-spanish-inquisition

In other words, Ben Zion Netanyahu’s argument shifted the root blame for the Inquisition from religion to ingrained racial animus–from the spiritual to the secular. If one was going to give the pope a book about the Inquisition, then, this would be the one. Moreover, not only does the book’s revisionist reckoning partially absolve Christianity for Spanish persecution of the Jews, it offers a contemporary message of pressing relevance. At a time when Christian anti-Semitism has receded–evidenced not least by the friendly relations between the Vatican and the state of Israel–secular and racial forms of anti-Semitism have been on the rise, particularly in Europe, where a nearly a quarter of Jews say they are afraid to publicly identify as Jewish. The anti-Semitism diagnosed by Ben Zion Netanyahu is alive and well.

The elder Netanyahu’s account of the Inquisition then, whatever its merits as a reconstruction of the past, serves as a powerful warning about the dangers lurking in the present–one that his son doubtless intended to convey.

Mordy , Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:20 (eleven years ago)

god, what a dick

Mordy , Friday, 13 December 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago)

his boycott is the least offensive part of the interview. also a stupid tactic, voice your dissent where it most needs to be heard.

bnw, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago)

he looks like Richard Gere

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 December 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago)

FB: Yes, the brainwashing works!

Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago)

What's Blumenthal's Goliath book like?

cardamon, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago)

From The Jewish Daily Foward: Lest anyone miss the point, many of his chapters have titles like “The Concentration Camp,” “The Night of Broken Glass,” “This Belongs to the White Man” and “How to Kill Goyim and Influence People.”

Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 December 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/16/roger-waters-antisemitism-unhelpful

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 16 December 2013 15:02 (eleven years ago)

roger-waters-antisemitism-unhelpful

caek, Monday, 16 December 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago)

That's interesting, but what implication is it really trying to create, that the entire ASA is actually anti-semitic?

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 December 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago)

or bds proponents within org

Mordy , Friday, 27 December 2013 02:59 (eleven years ago)

lol Roger Waters has really saddled himself atop the Do What You Gotta Do To Get Press horse eh

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 27 December 2013 03:07 (eleven years ago)

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I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 27 December 2013 03:47 (eleven years ago)

Nicolas Anelka could face a Football Association charge for his controversial goal celebration during Saturday's 3-3 draw with West Ham.

Anelka confirmed to Downing that he did perform a quenelle, described by some as a "reverse Nazi salute", after his 40th-minute strike at Upton Park but as far as the West Brom hierarchy are concerned, it was done as a tribute to the French comedian Dieudonné, a friend of Anelka.

"This gesture was just a special dedication to my comedian friend Dieudonné," Anelka tweeted in both French and English on his official account.

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/from-dieudonn-to-nicolas-anelka-hands-signal-new-french-race-row-9028420.html

A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago)

Seems complicated. I doubt most neo-nazis have the dexterity for it.

badgers moved the goalposts (dowd), Sunday, 29 December 2013 02:31 (eleven years ago)

It's like the nazi salute version of patting your head and rubbing your belly at the same time.

badgers moved the goalposts (dowd), Sunday, 29 December 2013 02:45 (eleven years ago)

There is a fairly big debate in France regarding the sign being anti-semitic. I've seen some people in Montréal use it.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 29 December 2013 07:36 (eleven years ago)

debate - "is this gesture that Jewish groups keep telling us is offensive anti-semitic?"

turkey & stfuing (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 December 2013 10:07 (eleven years ago)

Ok where dyou want to do that

lorde othering (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 December 2013 11:31 (eleven years ago)

debate - "is this gesture that Jewish groups keep telling us is offensive anti-semitic?"

― turkey & stfuing (Noodle Vague), Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:07 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The extremely dubious claim is that the jewish establishment (media, politicians) has turned the symbol into an anti-semitic one to isolate Dieudonné and pro-palestinian groups.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 29 December 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago)

In response to Dieudonne's numerous antisemitic statements, French Interior Minister Manuel Valls stated that Dieudonne was "no longer a comedian" but was rather an "anti-Semite and racist" and that he would seek to ban all Dieudonne's public gatherings as they amounted to a public safety risk. He can not be an anti-semite, the system is trying to make him an anti semite. How come a show man that had spent his life fighting rasism can be treated of this sort. The quennelle sign is a sign against the system and not an anti-semite sign.[3]

Mordy , Sunday, 29 December 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago)

Funny, all the French Jews I know are not crazy about Israeli policy towards Palestinians and they all say the gesture is COMPLETELY racist.

hatcat marnell (suzy), Sunday, 29 December 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago)

http://www.timesofisrael.com/anti-semitism-seen-driving-massive-rise-in-french-aliyah/

Mordy , Sunday, 29 December 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago)

france giving hungary a run for its money!

where is the best place to be a jew in europe right now, in the sense of least likely to encounter anti-semitism

max, Sunday, 29 December 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago)

re quenelle: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/03/world/europe/concern-over-quenelle-gesture-grows-in-france.html

Mordy , Thursday, 2 January 2014 19:44 (eleven years ago)

So I reported a facebook page for having a few guys doing la quenelle as their cover photo, it's for some kind of anti-sionist, pro-quebec separation, anti-capitalist TV show, all huge Dieudonné fans. Facebook took down the photo.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:57 (eleven years ago)

Funny, all the French Jews I know are not crazy about Israeli policy towards Palestinians and they all say the gesture is COMPLETELY racist

french jews are crazy racist tho

Lamp, Monday, 6 January 2014 18:03 (eleven years ago)

I want you to explain that comment.

zanarkand bozo (abanana), Monday, 6 January 2014 18:24 (eleven years ago)

When I think of french jews I think of the last time I was in Tel Aviv, when I was on the beach with H and K and this older french couple started talking to us. I guess I looked a little bit swaggy because i had my tortoise shell ray-bans and was kind of in shape, and the old guy was like "What kind of work - finance? finance?" And the way he pronounced it twice "fee-NAHNCE? fee-NAHNCE?" always rings out in my head.

He also told me I speak English "like an Englishman"

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 January 2014 18:35 (eleven years ago)

also my downstairs neighbor is apparently an older french jewish lady who smokes a lot and I can smell her damned cigarettes in my daughter's room, which is fucking gross. So I hate that lady.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 January 2014 18:36 (eleven years ago)

From personal experience (family, living there), a lot of french people are crazy racists.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 6 January 2014 18:37 (eleven years ago)

Yesterday I got into a Twitter argument with someone who insisted that anti-semitism didn't mean anti-Jew because not all semitic peoples are Jews. When I pointed out that "anti-semitism" was coined with that specific meaning, one that is widely understood and cited by all dictionaries and encyclopaedias, he responded that it was "confirmation bias" and most people were mindless sheep who didn't understand the true meaning of words. Predictably, it turned out that he was a raving anti-semite, in the popular sense of the word. Bigots love arguing about semantics.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:26 (eleven years ago)

"phobia means 'fear' but i'm not frightened of gays" etc

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:29 (eleven years ago)

lol they're not anti-semantic that's for sur

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:31 (eleven years ago)

Can't be anti-semitic if yr cool with Akkadians iirc

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:35 (eleven years ago)

i'd Hittite

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:40 (eleven years ago)

no wait they were Aryan sorry

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:40 (eleven years ago)

lol

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:46 (eleven years ago)

xp OTM re: homophobia. Also related to people who like to say the Nazis were National SOCIALISTS, ignoring the admittedly counterintuitive early 20C concept of anti-Marxist socialism.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:50 (eleven years ago)

considering anti-semitism was designed (by an anti-semite!) to be a more scientific term for jew-hatred, maybe we should just agree w/ these semantic assholes that they're not anti-semites and just go back to judenhass for the favored expression.

Mordy , Friday, 10 January 2014 13:32 (eleven years ago)

oh man it grinds my gears when i say i am anti-semitic and people think i just hate jews

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 January 2014 13:36 (eleven years ago)

yeah personally i only hate Edomites imagine how i long for a proper word

Jargon Kinsman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 January 2014 13:39 (eleven years ago)

The anti-semitism in French is frightening, but it strikes me as a very racist and splintered society in general? I mean, it's a country that as lately as the sixties massacred hundreds of immigrants, threw the bodies in the Seine, and covered it up for decades. There's a lot of hate going round.

Frederik B, Friday, 10 January 2014 14:16 (eleven years ago)

wow not to sidetrack but I never knew about that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961

chinavision!, Friday, 10 January 2014 14:24 (eleven years ago)


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