This is SHOUTING-for-MODERATOR thread pt. III!! [derailed: go to thread IV]

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we're all living in the matrix man

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

lets make litter out of these literati

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

You know in a nuclear reactor the "moderator" is the thing that makes the reaction more likely to continue. FACT.

Alan (Alan), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

"we're all living in the matrix man"

Really, which one of you is Keanu then?

smee (smee), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ned.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Of course!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is that just a typo for Neo, or does Raggett kno Kung Fuu.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Show him, Ned.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Raggett knows everthing....

smee (smee), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ask the Raggeys.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

If Ned = Keanu then Ronan = Keano.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can I be Agent Smith?

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

I phoned Morpheus and he agreed it was ridiculous.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha - is Momus the "Misssster Andurrrrrson" guy?

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wanna be Monica Belluci's drawers

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

We can ALL be Agent Smith! Which rules, cos he's hot. James yr welcome to hours of mucus.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

All right folks, can we please keep the chit chat on this thread to a minimum? If any real requests come through we're probably gonna miss them amongst this hoo haw.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Man, this has been the BEST THREAD lately! Drama! Hystrionics! Cunts!

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Time for a new mod thread anyway.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

if the mucus comment was some sorta roundabout way of invoking cramouille count me in!

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm looking out for them Sean, don't worry too much, I like going thru this stuff. There is a fair amount of room for blather all over ILX, tho. BTW I am no booster of the male parts either

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fine if you do, but if this keeps up I'm not going to bother. There's already a shitload of threads for this kinda chatter.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I kinda thought I'd said that, man

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Less chatter, more prissy nutso hissy fits! YAY!

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Um, whatever happened to the whole deal that, unless posts were abusive, SOMEONE ELSE revealed YOUR OWN personal info, someone posted as you, that type of serious stuff, that was the only shit getting moderated?

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think that rule was MODERATED.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

*dramatic music*

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

What happened to those good old days?
When hip-hop, was so much fun
Ohh, house parties in the summer y'all
And no one, came through with a gun
It was all about the music y'all
It helped.. to relieve some stress
Ohh, we was under one groove y'all
So much love between North and West


Go back in the day
British Knights and gold chains
Do the prep and cabbage patch
And wear your laces all fat
Back in the dayyyyyyyy, hey hey
Hip-Hop has chaaaanged

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are you asking me? Two people living in the house that ended up being discussed (not too surprisingly, housemate who started the thread) were hurt and wanted it closed. The SARS thread was closed for less reason. I'll reopen it if you like. I didn't think it was adding much to anyone's day.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

So, Andrew, what part of "closing thread cos PERSON BEING DISCUSSED NEGATIVELY" doesn't apply to what I said was acceptable? Ed asking: acceptable to me. Kate fucking up and then crying: not.

I'm sorry I got involved in this discussion, actually--I just don't think it's particularly right that sometimes people come up with jackass requests about how they fucked up and get told to piss off. Sometimes, people come up with jackass requests about how they fucked up and people jump. It's not like it's a consistent "This person is favored" thing, it's like it depends entirely on who is reading at the time. Which seems like a shit way to do things--get on the same fucking page, yo.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Alot of people agree I'd imagine, perhaps the old days of no moderation were better.

That said I'm not sure there's a solution to what is definitely a problem. Maybe the moderators need to lez up more.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Anyway, now regarding this me-as-Keanu nonsense...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

as ally has several times pointed out, this is not a form of parliament, it's run by by ordinary humans who have to make snap judgements in real time about situations which are evolving when they have other things on their mind...

of course it depends on who's reading at the time, how the hell wd it not? the idea that some abstractly perfect rule can be formulated to deal with any possible situation that ever arises is insane — the discussion here has arisen bcz of different interps of a general rule of thumb abt what constitutes invasive personal information

(if not insane: go away and formulate the rule for us pls, so that everyone can interpret it perfectly conformistically in all situations forever)

kate's original request seemed reasonable to dastoor and me at the time: proof our snap judgments were in fact correct — ed's subsequent request

yes of course this depends on non-general knowledge abt the various posters involved (ie i know and am very good friends with all THREE of the flatmates involved and know that in the past ed has requested that similar close-to-the-bone information be deleted)

yes of course the situation here relates to the specifics of particular posters: that's what "personal" means...

yes of course if a poster i knew much less well made a similar request about someone's name being flung around by another poster in ref. similar situation i might have taken longer to respond, not being familiar with the personal blah blah

mark s (mark s), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

that's just typical

Tim (Tim), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can I just say that the moderator to whom Tim generously handed over a crisp tithe is no longer in the employ of ILX?

Also were my publically accountable moderation guidelines ever posted?

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dunno. They were good, tho.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

addenmdum: in principle i don't actually mind tidying up ppl's posts viz when they have clumsily spilled bad html all over themselves except that THIS IS MY DAY JOB ALSO so sometimes i just can't fucking be bothered

mark s (mark s), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Right! So I'm off to start a thread about how there just isn't enough passion in Ally and I's relationship anymore. What do you do in that situation? I don't mean to get specific. I just want to open up general discussion.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

My take on it is that the initial issue which was negatively talking about another poster was surely the initial Poster X / Poster Y / Flatmate post (about thirty down), as this had taken the initial relatively general issue and specified it to an actual incident which was not anonymous to anyone involved (or to most people who know all the other freely proferred info about said peoples lives upon the board). My admittedly pointlessly salacious post was of course a vain glorious attempt to say look at me, aren't I clever. Kate's initial denial was adequate to put me off. The thread still exists, albeit in a way that no-one can now post to it. Whilst very few people have blamed me for the situation I obviously do feel responsible, moreso for Andrew Farrell's new found cuntdom, and feel that perhaps we have all learned something here today.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm really more than happy to reopen the thing! It's just Kate's/Ed's/Suzy's interests seem paramount, it's their house. I thought you were clever before this, Pete.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

in what sense "new found"? < / stirring it >

i didn't actually think pete's initial post was out of order either in itself, i just think that the perfectly acceptable (if risky) discussion started had — essentially bcz of difft personal interps of the q. of invasivity — waddled itself across a line where [very mild] backtracking moderation was appropriate (not actually much more severe than writing h0rnby instead of hornby)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

pete is a professional lightning rod

mark s (mark s), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

moderators can you change that previous post to "professional life nimrod" pls?

mark s (mark s), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

No I'm going to BED!

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Mark that's beautiful)

suzy (suzy), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well if all this has taught us is that I'm not clever, I think its almost been worth it.

"If you play with lightning your going to get - zzzap!" - Benjamina Franklin.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

he always has to bring hornby into it doesnt he?

gareth (gareth), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, I still think yr clever. I haven't learnt a thing!

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's no learnin' some people.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can I just say that the moderator to whom Tim generously handed over a crisp tithe is no longer in the employ of ILX?

We are in the employ of ILX? Where is my gawd damm renumeration.

Also were my publically accountable moderation guidelines ever posted?
RTFFAQ!

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 16 May 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago) link


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