― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link
And Screen Wipe rocks.
― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link
it was good, but not 300 times better than 'nathan barley'.
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost
steve otm
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link
this happened in the show except he thought she turned out not be under-age (at which point NB thinking it now okay to pretend she WAS under-age was actually quite a clever little point about...something or other).
i did hate NB but yes no less than anyone else around him.
― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually, scratch that, that's not the idea at all. It's funny caricatures falling into situations and scrambling to return to the status quo whilst simultaneously being trapped; a very old-fashioned sitcom thread. I certainly didn't feel that is was trying to make a big insightful statement about something, at least, nothing larger than "it's better to like something than to dislike something."
― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link
'THIR-FUCKING-TEEN'.
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
In fairness, I guess originally Barley wasn't really a character, just a cipher, and in making him human Morriss and Brooker made him more, er, human. I just don't think that made for great comedy. It wasn't sharp enough to be genuine satire and it wasn't silly enough to be knockabout comedy. It was just 'dark'.
― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I doubt whether Channel 4 enforced any 'nicening'. You know, maybe Barley always looked like that in Brooker's head, and if you boil the actions in any of the episodes down to the kind of 3-sentence description that you would find in TV Go Home, it wouldn't be that different. But TVGH gave the impression that Barley was a cartoonishly horrible amoral grotesque, and that's not what we got in the TV show. We got 'idiots'. I hoped it would be either venemous or ridiculous and it was neither.
― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
pt. I
pt. II
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link
i lolled?
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh okay, I didn't read the website so I didn't know what was supposed to happen, I only saw (and liked) what did.
― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link
'TDT' radio show was 1992. he was doing big things on london radio about then too.
'blue jam' dropped at the arse-end of '97 and was hot into the double-nine.
for me it went bad with 'jam' but then i was a student contrarian at the time, maybe i missed out.
it's just that there was a looong hiatus between the underwhelming 'brass eye '01' and 'nathan barley'.
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link
ie 'on the hour' (in b4 sotcaa smackdown).
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link
on which Morris had only as much if not less input than Lee, Herring, Marber, Baynham etc. [/sotcaa swot]
― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link
fig 1the day today = bendsbrass eye = ok computerblue jam = kid ajam = amnesiacBES = hail to the thiefnathan barley / it crowd = the eraser
― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link
as a team they really were a 90s Python only with a much more 'subliminal' influence on everything after (they're all known but not really as celebrated as Python gang were after they disbanded). i know the comparisons only stretch so far.
After Python there seemed to be quite a gap between something like that and early 80s 'alternative' 'edgy' stuff (Comic Strip etc.), only a handful of decent well crafted sitcoms in the 70s - which seems stranger and stranger looking back. perhaps we're seeing a similar effect even now with Whitehouse having killed laughtrack sketchom only for it's reanimated corpse to stalk the lands taller than ever before in Little Britain and Tate. Gervais is an anomaly with ridiculous carte blanche but can take 'credit' for pushing 'reality comedy' into mainstream. The conventional sitcoms remains thwarted, no show in that vein unable to command mass appeal of even mid 90s predecessors.
― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link
i think you're gonna have a very different perspective than me tbh, my dad knew about him before i did via radio 4 and he basically made me watch 'the day today', and then there was the radio one music show which was a revelation -- but also not infallible. so yeah the post-jam mystique is a bit lame, but it really is a recent development within his career, and arguably it ended with 'nathan barley' anyway.
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Still not clear if the couple also partook of the drug party in that one episode and I think they purposefully kept it vague
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 18:21 (three days ago) link
and Ludwig starts tonight, him from everything and her from everything, comedy detective show. i will give it a go but it's on bbc1― koogs, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 18:22 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― koogs, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 18:22 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Watched ten minutes of this and couldn't be bothered with continuing, not enjoyable or interesting on any level.
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 September 2024 20:51 (two days ago) link
As someone who likes wry, silly, murder mysteries based around puzzles, and Mark Corrigan trying to wing it in fish-out-of-water situations, and Anna MM being a bit sarcastic, this in theory is right up my street. Unfortunately the "case of the week" aren't fun puzzles you can work out (yet) and you don't see any of the 'main' puzzle. So it's more for people who like the idea of puzzles but not actually doing them. I'll watch them all though I guess.
Really like Colin From Accounts. Altho - did I miss something with Meggles and who she was with then wasn't? And the Rumi character at the dinner was amazing!
― kinder, Thursday, 26 September 2024 22:45 (two days ago) link