this is the thread where we talk breathlessly about the best TV show on North American television: THE AMAZING RACE!

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You just KNEW when they got to that Roadblock clue that he wouldn't even hesitate before ordering Victoria to do it.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link

From The New York Post:

January 4, 2005 -- IT was all an act, claims the abusive, wife-shoving "Amazing Race" contestant who has angered millions with his appalling behavior on the popular reality show.
"We went in being the villains. We went in playing it over the top, and CBS kind of helped it along with their storyline," racer Jonathan Baker, 42, told "Access Hollywood."

"I've had to do a lot of apologizing to a lot of people because they actually think it's real," he said.

During a recent episode, Baker became so angry with his wife, Victoria Fuller, for hampering him during a challenge that he shoved her — hard — as she cried.

"And yeah, some of it's real," he told the TV show. "But you know at the end of the day we really wanted to play it campy, over the top, you know. But we do love each other and we are together. We're still together."

The "I was acting," excuse is just the latest of several Baker has used to explain away his abusive behavior during the show, in which he verbally assualts Fuller, a former Playboy model, and other contestants.

In an interview Baker gave before the latest season of "Amazing Race" began, Baker — knowing how likely it was that he would appear to be a jerk on the show — first blamed the editing of the series. Later, he claimed his behavior was due to stress, a rare medical condition and the prescription drugs used to treat it.

"Amazing Race" producers were so horrified by his antics that the show's chief, Bertram van Munster, even took Baker aside several times during the taping last summer and told him to "chill out."

Worse, the Web site and Baker's other attempts to explain his behavior could land the foul-tempered reality fiend in even more trouble with CBS, since he is prohibited from speaking publicly until he either wins the game or is kicked off. "

aimurchie, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahaha, "Worse,[...]"!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, he's come up with a million different excuses for his behavior in interviews, so the "it was all deliberate!" explanation rings rather hollow now.

I was sad to see Gus and Hera go, but they always picked the wrong challenge. Though I'm not sure if Gus would have fared much better at water polo.

I know it's cruel, but it was hilarious how Freddy was doing really well at the soup challenge until Kendra pointed out all the vomit on the floor.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link

THAT WAS AWESOME! (Also the fact that he puked back into his bowl.) (Also, the shell-shocked, horrified expressions that began creeping over the musicians' faces as they watched Victoria slurp-and-purge-and-wail.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Rebecca also kicked ass at that! I was impressed.

On another forum someone got all huffy that Jonathan called her a monster, saying "Oh, like he has a right to talk!" The people on that forum are FUCKING DUMBASSES.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Last night's episode was pretty tame. I think Bluehair must have had a talking to. Victoria seems a bit more assertive.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby. please climb that wall, baby!

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

apparently you have to call your partner "baby" to be considered a model.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Spike Lee should write a children's book about them.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone overdosed on the "baby"'s yesterday, not just the glamour types.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm stilll waiting for a comedy anvil to fall on Kendra's head.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I was pretty underwhelmed by this last episode, probably because most of the teams seem so annoying.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Kris and Jon aren't annoying, but they're too bland. I can't root for such blandless. Yesterday, I found myself rooting for Jonathan and Victoria just for the entertainment value. The role reversal during the Detour was fun to see, with Jonathan doing all the work while Victoria yelled at him for being a bum.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

*blandness*

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam reminds me of that Bruce McCullough character .. the kid with the glasses and baseball cap.

Also, I don't know why he's so hung up on Rebecca - since he's so obviously gay.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 13 January 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam is the only one I kind of like, he's so pathetic.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 13 January 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! Good riddance to bad rubbish! I'm almost tempted to watch the cbs early show tomorrow to hear how they explain their vileness. having said that, i don't really care who wins. This season wasn't so hot.

and who oh why haven't people figured out by now that when given the choice of two tasks you should always do the first/faster one?

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

BOOOO.
They were the most entertaining of the bunch. I like Kris and Jon, but they're bland and drama-free.

Still, the way Jon and Victoria went out was fitting. Their weekly shouting match caused them to lose their concentration and misread the directions. Something like that was bound to happen.

It was also nice to see that the Ethiopians (unlike the Senegalese) have passed Kendra's litmus test and are worthy of continuing to breed.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

it was the weekly shouting match that i couldn't take anymore. oy vey!

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

At first, I was critical of Kris and Jon's blandness as well -- if you were going to come up with a stereotypical (in a 'good' way) liberal couple, they'd be it -- but compared to everyone else, their niceness makes up for being so perfectly boring.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

They're likeable enough that I won't mind if they win (if we were scoring the race on points then they've probably performed better than the others -- consistently in the top three), but they're bland enough that I can't bring myself to root for them.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't root for anybody, but I do kind of feel sorry for the patheticness of Adam. Poor kitty.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link

no way! what's her name was right - he is totally abusive. i hate the way he plays the puppy-eyed "i love you" card every time she calls him on his shit. oh my god i just realized i'm arguing about reality tv on an internet messageboard.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

also, FUCK YOU JONATHAN AND VICTORIA!!

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

(ps. a giant runner-up fuck you goes out to kendra. her little monologue on ethiopia was reprehensible.)

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

That's what makes him so pitiful! (But I don't really think he is abusive)

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Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been rooting for Lori & Bolo since Gus & Hera left. I don't know why.
Rebecca is just as hideously unevolved emotionally as Adam. She wants to be Kris and Jon, it's so obvious, and she resents Adam because he always gets in the way when she's trying to make buddies with them.

Freddy and Kendra, oh man. Hey lady, if you can talk, you're breathing.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

rebecca's fun, i dig her.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

btw, do ethiopians cut mud with broken glass or something?

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Rebecca only looks good because she's always next to the incredible sulk.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam is needy, clingy, and somewhat pathetic, but at the same time Rebecca said some cruel and hurtful things. The moral of the story is: if you're an on-again/off-again couple having serious issues, why the fuck would you go on Amazing Race which can do nothing but make all that stuff worse?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

She wants to be Kris and Jon, it's so obvious, and she resents Adam because he always gets in the way when she's trying to make buddies with them.

So painfully OTM, Huk-L

Maria D. (Maria D.), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Wrestler lady bugs me. She was acting like "she got the hard one" with that cross. Once a week or so ago when he tried to tell her to be more positive, she said she wasn't raised that way. I think if she even won she'd somehow think it was unfair.

I'm glad J & V lost. And I'm glad they finally said "may be eliminated" instead of "will be" but Philiminated someone nonetheless.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Married couple kicked off The Amazing Race after bickering around globe
NEW YORK (AP) — Married entrepreneurs Jonathan Fuller and Victoria Baker bickered their way across the globe on CBS’ The Amazing Race and were eliminated during Tuesday’s episode.
“I knew that he was going to be over the top. I know Jon very well,” Baker told The Associated Press on Wednesday. “I know he can be very enthusiastic. I was a little taken aback by his intensity. It was so off the charts.”
Fuller went into the competition with hopes of being the show’s villain, but he had no idea “it would look like that.” Most of “that” were arguments and a shoving incident with his wife.
“I turned off my compassion,” said Fuller. “I pushed the envelope too far. I learned a lot about myself. I’m deeply sorry if I offended people out there. I look at what I saw up there, and I didn’t like the person that I saw.”
Viewers, and host Phil Keoghan, were shocked when Fuller, 42, shoved the 32-year-old Baker after a footrace spat in Berlin during the fifth leg of the race. After the incident, Fuller declared he was done with the competition, something that wasn’t seen on the show.
“I did quit the race,” Fuller told the AP. “I said, ‘It’s done.’ I was mad at how it was handled. I was mad at Phil. He kept asking me these questions. I was mad at myself. I was mad at the whole situation.”
Seven hours later, Fuller changed his mind.
“It was a flip of a switch,” he said. “Well into the morning, (the producers) said it was up to me if I showed up or not. I have to say the love of The Amazing Race put me back on it.”
“It was definitely a learning experience,” said Baker. “You have to see yourself at your worst to be yourself at your best. I hope America gives us a chance. Jon and I been together a long time. Eight years is like a lifetime if you live in Los Angeles.”

Huk-L, Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Eight years is like a lifetime if you live with an asshole.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
"I feel like Michael Keaton in Gung Ho!"

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, as a Chicagoan, I am wondering what the fuck is up with the O'Hare CTA person telling them to take the Blue Line in, get off at Chicago, and walk "2 blocks" to Michigan. The Blue Line intersects with Chicago at Milwaukee, which is at least a mile away from Michigan. Next thing I know, they're getting off on State and seemingly right there near the Water Tower.

Also, they must have had to do some task near the Chicago Fire Academy or Manny's Deli on the near SW side, which was not aired, because they were near Jefferson & Roosevelt when they hailed their cabs to Gino's East, not anywhere near the Water Tower.

Props to the teams for finding that park at the end, though; I would have guessed Chinatown, but I had never heard of that place before.

KKKendra and Freddy won, which is a bummer. John and Kris were so obviously the nicer, stronger team.

But tonight's episode was worth it to see Dave Grohl Hayden losing her shit.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link

The amazing racist wins the Amazing Race!

Now that you mention it, Hayden does look a lot like Dave Grohl.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the teeth.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't believe another one is starting in 3 weeks. what are they trying to do to me?

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link

um, but anyway, this finale was actually pretty good. That last hour went really quick.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link

After last season, I actually thought a team I liked could win. Stupid me. Stupid Kendra.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 07:02 (nineteen years ago) link

In a (probably futile) attempt to temper our sadness at the amazing racist winning the Amazing Race, I offer teh funnies:

- Adam (to Kris): "You in raging bitch mode is like her..." gestures at Rebecca "...on a good day". Cue hurt and bewildered look on Rebecca's face (and yet, stangely, no follow-up).

- Rebecca (rowing), to "formerly dating" teammate: "Nice long strokes, Adam" (Heh.)

- Racist Kendra, upon arriving at the 2,000 year-old Terracotta Army in Xi'an, China, an archaelogical wonder of the world: "Do we have to dig, honey?" (yeah, just like you had to tear down the fucking wall in Berlin, you twat.)

- Weird conversation about language differences between Kris and Jon: Kris decides that Chinese isn't Germanic, like English, and blurts:

"Babe, I love you"

Jon inexplicably says: "Can you please fetch me some water?"

(I fully accept that this entire exchange probably went right over my head, though.)

- The Official Ugly American Moment: Cabbie leads Aaron and Hayden far off the beaten track. They've had enough, and want to bail. Naturally, he still wants the fare. It looks like they refuse, and he hangs onto Aaron's pack as he tries to walk away. Cue Ugly American: "Touch me and I'll kick your ass!" Ha! Cut to Aaron floating face down in the Yangtze (a small part of this summary is an untruth).

- Rebecca, when confronted with an array of padlocks and only one key: "Very Zen, isn't it?" Followed quickly by: "Open! Open! Open!"

- Hayden has a weird breakdown and Aaron shrieks: "I hate China!!!" Heh.

- Kendra: "The Year 2". WTF?

- Rebecca: "He has three testicles!" Ha ha ha...

- Adam, in despair: "You're very mean. Do you understand the word mean? You are very cold."

- Kendra, after Freddy tried to get a cop to escort their cab to their destination: "Honey, it's not an EMERGENCY to a POLICE OFFICER!!!"

A: I don't eat tomatoes
R: I don't eat cheese
A: I don't eat tomatoes
R: I don't eat cheese

Wow, what a wild television ride. I hate that Kendra, the "Ghetto Africa" woman, won this thing, though.

David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I am wondering what the fuck is up with the O'Hare CTA person telling them to take the Blue Line in, get off at Chicago, and walk "2 blocks" to Michigan

They cut some of it .. I thought I heard her say take the train downtown to the Howard Train and take it to Chicago.. Which is also a bit wrong because does anything refer to the Red Line as the Howard Train anymore?

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you, David A.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought Hayden and AAAARON! (I can't think his name without hearing her voice shrieking it) should have let Rebecca and Adam hit the mat before them. They were the ones who quit, but they made R&A hear Phil say "you're the last team to arrive". Then AARON!! had to steal R&A's thunder about making it into the final 3 by popping the question.
By the end, I liked R&A a lot more than before. They both seem to have grown up during the race.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, even though they were both kind of immature and dysfunctional I ended up liking them.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

They will be together forever.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race_application/

They're accepting applications for season 8 right now!

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link


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