Mystery Science Theater 3000: C/D, S/D.

if the scene didn't quickly move from "dude ripping dress" to "dude falling down ravine" - if it seemed like the director was actually trying to titillate - i bet they would have spoken up

in a more earnest manner, i mean.

Just watched it again too and, agreed on basically all counts. Contrast with their genuine anger when what's her name gets killed in the final reel of The Girl in Lovers Lane.

All fair posts above. I definitely didn't think the Brains thought the sequence was cool. Maybe it just seemed wide open for a point to be made (through humor or otherwise) that there was something pretty fucked up about the (male) makers of a Wild Good Time Teen Movie thinking this scene was the best way to get the plot rolling. Complete with the people who seem to be the protagonists (? I could be wrong?) just not paying any attention to the screams because they're making out in the car! Ha ha ha! I mean at best it's super super tone deaf, and that should be rife for the MST team's skills to point up in a way that....ehhh, I'm beating a dead horse here, it just bugged us, but y'know, there's plenty other episodes to watch.

Actually it's the main villain (Mel Torme, admittedly, but still) who does nothing even after hearing screams.

One possible reason why the jokes don't take a back seat to indignation is perhaps because it's the first minute of the film. Short of walking out en masse, I'm not sure what they could've done. That's right when Mike and the 'bots have to establish their riffs.

Zero-sum argument, tho.

i definitely think if it was done today they'd be more apt to call out the threat of assault as a plot device, even if the would-be rapist was going to be a puddle a minute later

Or they might have just cut the scene entirely, as they've done with any number of other movies.

Now I'm sort of curious to know what the response was on the MST3k Facebook group. If there's one unintended side-effect of the MST3K mindset that still gives me (minuscule) pause every now and again, it's the total alienation from all contexts that aren't based in postmodernist larffs.

oh man considering my own apparent defensiveness, i can't even imagine what degree of "how DARE you suggest they had any responsibility to acknowledge the audience's potential reaction to sexual violence" facebook would offer

"And now let's watch Willa Cather doing her Baby Snooks impression."

you know, this was a great series, and i never wanted to watch it for 20 years, so i haven't.

Uh...yay? (I mean considering the amount of baseball specific references throughout the series, I figure you would enjoy that!)

you know, this was a great series

100 percent true. Very much agreed. A fantastic and enduring classic TV show. So glad we could share this moment together.

The reaction was mostly defensive as y'all have guessed, plus some people suggesting other ones to avoid (e.g. Sidehackers) and sharing the trivia that up until Sidehackers they supposedly did not have a policy of watching the whole movie before deciding to use it for the show. That sorta confused me and made me wonder: how exactly did their rights agreements work? Were they obligated to run a movie they'd agreed to, or were they just on too tight a budget to drop a movie they'd paid for? Did they come as package deals?

The various things I've seen, via the original episode guide and other posts, was that they could pick individual films but that sometimes there were package deals. Start of season 8 is a good example -- they were plowing their way through a lot of old B/W Universal films that the SciFi Channel had rights to.

That makes sense. I remember in one of the interviews or something, they talk about taking package deals from distributors, who relied on desirable movies to force airers to pay fees for awful B-crap in their archives; for the Brains it was the other way around. Or something like that? But it would surprise me if they were obliged to run all the films in the package. Surely the distributor wouldn't care, so long as they were paid for.

On a lighter note, not sure if this has been posted, but: http://io9.com/wheres-servo-is-the-greatest-mst3k-poster-of-all-ti-1561516889 Hours of fun!

Um...guys?

http://uproxx.com/music/2014/08/theres-a-mystery-science-theater-3000-homage-in-nicki-minajs-new-music-video/

Not really fair that the 'bots don't get to riff the hell out of those lyrics.

This is true.

[url=http://debbiesmanos.blogspot.com/debbie (the little girl from Manos) has a blog of her own, with lots of stories about the film.[/url]

Just announced

So check this out: there's now an official MST3K YouTube channel, and you should subscribe for several reasons:
1. There are FULL-LENGTH episodes like Mitchell that are completely annotated.
2. There are great-quality, exclusive clips and sneak peeks (like the Turkey Day Collection unboxing video), updated regularly.
3. We have some REALLY COOL THINGS coming up very soon which you won't want to miss. Just trust us on that.
Go poke around this new channel, subscribe and enjoy a hefty dose of MST3K today!

http://youtube.com/mst3kofficial

That's great and all, but ...

RIP unauthorized MST3K eps on YouTube?

I wonder. Keep in mind that with the Vimeo deal as well there's definitely some sort of tightening up happening. This isn't surprising, though -- when the Shout Factory deal happened the idea was precisely to cover streaming options in the future, and while we've already seen that with Netflix and Hulu to some degree I suspect the focus will go here instead.

Brain That Wouldn't Die showed here the other day as part of a NY '60s underground series.

I use http://www.club-mst3k.com/ frequently so I'll definitely keep my eye on any sudden influx of dying links.

Keep circulating the links

I'll probably have to start ripping as many YTs as I can in any case.

New Turkey Day marathon, y'all

http://www.nerdist.com/2014/11/exclusive-joel-hodgson-curating-another-mst3k-turkey-day-streaming-marathon/

yaay!

Meantime, while the formal release of the restored/cleaned-up Manos: The Hands of Fate is due soon, you can enjoy the soundtrack now. Really.

https://manoshandsoffate.bandcamp.com/

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2necex/i_am_joel_hodgson_creator_of_mystery_science/

Meantime there's a new official site for videos up:

http://downloadmst3k.com/

It's essentially a Vimeo/Shout Factory partnership.

Turkey Day Marathon starts in about 40 minutes

https://www.shoutfactory.com/editorials/turkey-day-marathon-faq

Magic Voyage of Sinbad!!

Such a great episode. Wall to wall hilarity plus extra Minnesota references from the get-go. "Oh cripes don't ya know..."

Santa, be reasonable...

"And I shall be there...bringing you my golden fish." "Oh WOW."

"Oh yeah, that."

dan haggerty / bear intervention <3

skinbag
wizzbang
tinpan
zigzag

Flock of Seagulls joke = next level, still.

so good

"You can kill them with a fork but please...use a spoon."

Joel's introductions damn near bring a tear to my eye.

I love how Joel and Crow go to sleep as well.

Also, if I may be permitted this one indulgence: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/11/27/movie-blog-top-10-mst3k-episodes-ever/

THIS ONE TIME, yes.

10 CARS?!?!

"Right now it seems like my doom is imminent...how are you?"

"I've glued you all to the boats and put rods in your limbs for a reason!"

"TEN CARS?!" is some of my all-time favorite Joel delivery.