misreading 'unbridled' for 'unbrided' would be grounds for a terrible fight, I think
― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link
I believe you've misread 'grounds for divorce'
― 龜, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:11 (ten years ago) link
i like the new direction of this thread
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link
xp if the dj plays 'misread' during dinner, he will get a better tip. if he plays 'grounds for divorce', he will get a different kind of tip, i.e. "hey man, maybe don't play songs with that title at a wedding. or maybe just don't play any wolf parade songs."
― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:18 (ten years ago) link
but then he'd also get a monetary tip because I don't like confrontation
― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link
http://gawker.com/working-for-tips-is-a-path-to-poverty-1648413053
― A solid little house from the p-funk boys (I am using your worlds), Monday, 20 October 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/AI3DUST.png
― 龜, Thursday, 11 December 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link
bitcoin.txt @bitcoin_txt 3mA tip is the equivalent of an upvote except you get real money.
― lag∞n, Saturday, 20 December 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/5342bf77ecad04af524063da-720-905/chart-tipping-statistics.png
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-you-should-tip-in-every-situation-2014-4
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 April 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link
should you tip your airbnb hosts?
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 9 April 2015 09:25 (nine years ago) link
Bartender... 98% lol good luck usa
― their fantastic and relevant debut single, ‘Times Are Hard’ (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 April 2015 10:03 (nine years ago) link
The thing that is a drag about drinking in the UK versus the US is that the tipping is a GOOD thing for the customer. If you always start off the night at a bar you're going to be at for a while by tipping $5 or $10 on the first round, then, when the bar's crowded, the bartender will come to you faster. Plus you get buyback drinks. And you get treated better the next time you come in. Everyone wins.
The amount of time I've wasted standing at a pub over here waiting for a disinterested bartender to eventually work his or her way over, paying no attention whatsoever to the order people arrived at the bar...
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:38 (nine years ago) link
That's just inept bartending though.
― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:53 (nine years ago) link
Well, it's certainly very American: Throw a little cash around, etc. Not saying that's not unfair.But when I tip well and get stronger drinks faster, I think that's great bartending.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:57 (nine years ago) link
That's the other thing, of course: Better tips and a heavier pour.Reminds me of that old Doug Stanhope bit on Charlie Brooker's show about UK bartenders putting on a labcoat and grabbing a beaker to measure your shot, making sure not a vapour more of spirit leaks into the glass...
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:58 (nine years ago) link
Tipping is a flat circle
― 龜, Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:01 (nine years ago) link
everyone wins except somebody who doesn't have $10 to give away obv
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:02 (nine years ago) link
Better idea if publicans only employed Polish or Czech barmaids tbh
― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:05 (nine years ago) link
prefer the egalitarianism of shit service for all to the favouring of a monied elite
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:06 (nine years ago) link
I always tip properly (as instructed by ilx) at US bars and I've noticed no discernible improvement in bartender attitude or attention. I've had tiny numbers of buy backs (maybe 4, ever) and since I'm primarily a beer drinker I get no benefit in pour size.
― Tim, Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:10 (nine years ago) link
so what would you all normally tip a tattoo artist? I've had two tats and gave a $60 on a $340 tattoo and a $40 on a $150, figured that was enough but I never know the protocol.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:15 (nine years ago) link
wat is buy back
― their fantastic and relevant debut single, ‘Times Are Hard’ (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:19 (nine years ago) link
guess u must have tipped ok or guy wd have inked swastikas on u second time round
― their fantastic and relevant debut single, ‘Times Are Hard’ (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:23 (nine years ago) link
Believe it or not, some of us have no tattoos.
― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:29 (nine years ago) link
wat is buy back― their fantastic and relevant debut single, ‘Times Are Hard’ (Bananaman Begins),
― their fantastic and relevant debut single, ‘Times Are Hard’ (Bananaman Begins),
aiui you tip enough for five extra drinks and eventually you get one of them
― not content (onimo), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:29 (nine years ago) link
er, cool lifehack
― their fantastic and relevant debut single, ‘Times Are Hard’ (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link
― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, April 9, 2015 2:29 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
believe it or not, some people on ILX do, and that's who the question was addressed to
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link
Ha, yes, it was just phrased in such a way that seemed to imply that most of us have... which might actually be true!
― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
I always tip properly (as instructed by ilx) at US bars and I've noticed no discernible improvement in bartender attitude or attention.
same here. but i always assume it's because i look like i'm 12 and the bartender already thinks they're doing me a favor by not calling my mom
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link
By the time I go to a bar it's too packed to meaningfully believe that an extra dollar or two will get you better service
― 龜, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link
tip on tattoos as you would for hair salon/barbershop.
― new noise, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
Tipping and Your Tattoo Artist?
― new noise, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
everyone wins except somebody who doesn't have $10 to give away obv― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, April 9, 2015 2:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
So $5 if you're getting a couple drinks, $10 if you're buying a bigger round. Don't think it's a preposterous ask if you're preparing to spend a bit of time at the same bar. If $5 is a crazy amount, how can you drink in any bars in any big city? Believe me - for a bartender it's much more about the gesture, really. Despite what that chart says, a SHITLOAD of people don't tip at all, or leave a couple bucks and then take one back when you're doing something else like some kind of Costanza move. A couple extra bucks to a hard working bartender is simply a gesture of respect that will be rewarded
The "egalitarianism of shit service" is a noble idea that leads to a culture of nonstop shit service everywhere.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
a noble culture tho
― their fantastic and relevant debut single, ‘Times Are Hard’ (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
A couple extra bucks to a hard working bartender is simply a gesture of respect that will be rewarded
Or won't, depending. I tip, as far as I can tell I tip correctly, though obviously it's an opaque and somewhat exclusionary system, I've even given up complaining about it being unfair and unhelpful, I am even happy about it if it means bar staff get paid a decent amount BUT it's fair to say that your description of tipping in bars as something which works smoothly to the benefit of the customer does not match my experience of drinking in America.
― Tim, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link
Seems to me that the system is geared squarely in the interests of the bar owners, fwiw - pay less in wages, accept a bit more wastage, build in a reason for people to stay for longer rather than leg it after a couple.
I am used to experiencing both good and bad service in the US and the UK, I've genuinely not felt a substantial difference between the two. Maybe I'm tipping wrong, perhaps I should make a bigger show of it or something.
― Tim, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
i tip my doctor and noticed a significant improvement in service
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
(x-post) Fair enough; we've just had different experiences, and really the entire bar/pub cultures are very different on either side of the Atlantic. I still think it benefits everyone, though - bar owners for the reasons you say, bartenders because they get more tips with customers who are more likely to return, customers because a few extra bucks will pay off then or down the road.
I've just found myself at so many central London pubs standing there for 30 minutes getting jostled, watching the bartender make no effort to try to serve waiting people in any kind of order, and I start to lose my mind. But again - different experiences: I've been lucky to have some great locals in D.C./NYC/even L.A.
Plus it feels good to tip people when you can and shouldn't always be seen as some elaborate shakedown!
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
it feels good to tip people
this is why its abhorrent, same w ppl who take pride in paying for everything & conspicuous charity
― ogmor, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
If your smallest bills were worth approx 8 dollars do you think ppl would still tip as much
― kinder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
I'm guessing you've never worked a job where you hope people tip you
― Walter Galt, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link
site old questioms
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 10 April 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link
Nice
― 龜, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link
seems patronising to assume an ethical position is beyond someone w a certain work history but I guess thats par for the course w you tippers
― ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link
it's abhorrent because it feels good
― brimstead, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:55 (nine years ago) link
right that's what makes it so insidious, at least w bribery no one is blinding themselves w romantic notions about individual endeavour or altruism
― ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link
vee must totally destroy all notions of romantic individual endeavour or altruism!
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link
buybacks i feel like most often occur when youve been sitting at the bar for hours getting shithoused on a not that busy night, or at a place where ur a regular
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 05:57 (nine years ago) link
i guess some places are more formulaic about it
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 05:59 (nine years ago) link
or if u know the bartender u just tip them a lot and they charge u almost nothing which seems m/l like a crime
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 06:00 (nine years ago) link