2 is better than 1: the rainy planet, the hilarious love scenes. 3 is competent in a way that makes me like it less--it's just good enough to bump itself into a bracket where it cannot compete. 1 meanwhile has nothing. just nothing. these days the opening crawl about the interstellar trade federation and the disputed tax policy and confusion in the galactic senate rly makes me wistful: wish that movie was real.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
III was better than VI, IIRC, but that's not saying a whole lot.
― Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
There's one surefire upside to Episode 7: it's sure to look golden in comparison to the preceding episode.
― Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
for TPM my mom held a star wars party!!!! for me and my friends before we all went to the theater. i was 10. that was probably the most exciting moment of my life up til that point. i don't remember how i felt afterward but it wasn't ecstatic.― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, December 1, 2014 11:11 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, December 1, 2014 11:11 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wait, did you go to the midnight showing at Snowden?
― put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
I was just about to say that you should never ever listen to anyone who attempts to convince you that that third one "actually isn't that bad"
It's far from an actual good movie, but it is more enjoyable than the others, and has some semblance of atmosphere and dramatic weight. I don't care enough that I'd expend much effort trying to convince anyone, just offering my opinion.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
xp yeah snowden. not sure if the palace 9 was closed down yet but i know it wasn't there.
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
I think the feeling of seeing the trade ministers
The befuddlement
It's a feeling I can still recall with some measurement of accuracy
― 龜, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
Ep 1 - I remember the podrace, Jar-Jar, and that weird-ass immaculate conception dialogue/reveal.
Ep 2 - Wasn't part of this about Boba Fett's kid or something? Or Boba Fett as a kid? I can't conjure up a single memory from this; for me, its enduring legacy is Triumph's nerd-baiting outside a NYC theater.
Ep 3 - Felt like I napped through most of it, and then woke up suddenly when heavy shit went down near the end thinking, huh, that wasn't completely awful.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
xposts
old lunch the force is telling me that you have something to say about Return of the Jedi. out with it!
― ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
oh and definitely not midnight. 5 or 5:30. i remember this day very well. xp xp xp
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
everything that i can remember about episodes 2 and 3 comes from the words in the titles. episode 1 i remember clearly, sadly, because i saw it 3 times in theaters trying to convince myself that it wasn't broken
― ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25 AM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
god totally. it made me feel dumb. love how george always says adults didn't like it bc they forget the original trilogy was FOR KIDS but then he makes it all about tariffs.
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
Ah ok. That would make sense, but there were definitely some younger kids in the audience.
xp to zach.
― put your money where the maracas are (how's life), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
when heavy shit went down near the end
For all my half-hearted defence of III earlier, I must admit that the Anakin/Obi-Wan lava fight is completely fucking stupid.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
III was so ugly and inkompetent. If people hadn't known for 20 years what would happen, none of it would make sense. I still can't figure out if the jedis realize they are about to be murdered, or if they have some weird tick.
― Frederik B, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
ep 3 came out when i was a wizened 17 and there really was a lot of hype about it being Not That Bad, and it sort of wasn't too embarrassing. george obv listened to the criticism a bit and buried jar jar etc. that's the era of me reading slashfilm and being a pretty genuine nerdlinger, maybe that's the new internet marketing evil christopher ott is talking about itt
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
Hah yeah 3 was the only one I felt kind of good about after leaving the theater
― 龜, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
I hear DLH's criticism of it above, but it makes sense to me since I have always rated ROTJ over ESB
I want my cheap emotional highs
The only good thing to come out of TPM was Darth Maul
― 龜, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
The best part of that was that Lucas created an interesting character and completely intended for him to immediately die
like the only new interesting character, you throw him down the well
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
I remember one scene in II, I think, where they were trapped in this giant absurd factory, running around on conveyor belts and trying to escape the giant stamping hammers, swinging blades, and jets of flame that you normally get in factories. The whole thing was transparently designed for a videogame (and ripped off of countless others). IIRC this was the scene where R2 suddenly developed the flying ability he'd never previously shown any evidence of. (Or that he would never again show any evidence of, in the movie timeline.)
― Kelly Gang Carey and the Mantels (ledge), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
it was about boba fett that's it
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link
I will admit to some guilty lols about R2 and Yoda having these capabilities in Episode I-III. Overemphasizing that everything is shiny and new and acting like the original trilogy was old and broken was one of the stupidest things about the prequel trilogy. Everything was supposed to be dirty and piecemeal because it's an old universe, not because the Emperor took over.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
at some point in that conveyor belt scene, a machine rips off the midriff of natalie portman's space outfit: lucas inserting Sex
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
Worth mentioning that the most reasonable scripts of the whole series (Star Wars/Empire Strikes Back) were heavily contributed to or edited by women. I think it's been shrugged off by Lucas, but his ex-wife had some strong contributions to script editing and not just film editing.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
BEHOLD THE MIDRIFF
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md13t6U5HI1rg9byko1_r1_500.png
― Kelly Gang Carey and the Mantels (ledge), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
also, lol:
For the film's famous opening crawl, Lucas wrote a six-paragraph (with four sentences each) composition. He said that "The crawl is such a hard thing because you have to be careful that you're not using too many words that people don't understand. It's like a poem." Lucas showed his draft to his friends. Director Brian De Palma, who was there, described it: "The crawl at the beginning looks like it was written on a driveway. It goes on forever. It's gibberish." He said to Lucas, "You're out of your mind... Let me write this for you"; De Palma helped to edit the text into the form used in the film.
I would like to hear what De Palma thinks about the trade federation
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
all these posts about the prequels, preceded by enthusiasm for the new sequels, is incredible
xp
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
some sort of abuse survivor rationalization syndrome
it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
There are plenty of stories told in the expanded Star Wars universe that are interesting, even in what's now seen as canonical. There are a couple reasonable cartoon series, including a new one that precedes/runs concurrently with the rebellion. Three shit movies with one common denominator (George Lucas thinking he should write/direct them) doesn't mean that future movies will be bad. Lucas out of the writer/director role means there's very little linkage between Eps 1 - 3 and 7.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
uh no, I firmly remember thinking "do I even need to see this in the theater" about Ep 2? Who are these people you're talking about?
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
xpost no way! if i remember correctly the day after TPM came out everyone was barfing in the streets
― ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
70s trailers are pretty goofy compared to today's fare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kd5_WzYcH0
― schwantz, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
oh I dunno, how about these people? Ned, Ally etc. The Phantom Menace: What The Hell is Wrong With It?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
lol @ "looks like it was written on a driveway"
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
The very first published review appeared on the internet, on a home theater forum, about 2 days before the wide release of the movie, and it was an absolute pan. As were many of the contemporaneous traditional media reviews.
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
YEARS meaning more than two? half the people on that thread were saying it was crap in 2001, two years after release
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
also hilariously the 2009 revive is half posts of Shakey complaining about Star Wars
tell me who this is really about, man
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Monday, December 1, 2014 11:54 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a couple of ilx challops
you and rt both really need to take a step back from ilx imo
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
I guess I'd call myself a passive Star Wars fan (although I've read some of the books, for the love of christ), but I don't honestly know that I'd call any of the films legitimately Good Movies. I'm about as excited for the next sequel as I am about the prospect of a Last Starfighter sequel. It'll be fun to see and probably promptly forget about.
― Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
ANAKIN: I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough andirritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Hereeverything's soft... and smooth...
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
As were many of the contemporaneous traditional media reviews.
I'm talking about audiences not film critics
this thread also entertaining/relevant: Attack Of The Clones
Dan and Ned really drinkin the Kool-Aid in these threads :(
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
it took YEARS for ned raggett, representative of the human race, to do a thing
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
barfing in the streets
They're barfing in Chicago...down in New Orleans...in New York City...
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
also irl lol:
If you watch four years after release at home on a Saturday morning, not remotely excremental. Even the Frankie & Annette in Space romantic scenes take on an Ed Wood-with-a-budget fascination.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:00 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
Maybe for some fans, but I recall the general tide of opinion turning against the Phantom Menace almost immediately after it came out.
― Punny Names (latebloomer), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
Hi there!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
Like I said up the thread, the only thing I have to lose is ten bucks and two hours. Some years my favorite sports teams suck, it's not like I'm not going to watch them.
― joygoat, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link