i saw star wars on the teevee and on video when i was a kid, several times. It was great when i was under 12 and i had all the action figures and ralph mcquarrie books and shit. my darth vader was headless because i hung him from the venetian blinds and his noggin popped off. i still have my childhood star wars pillowcases, that's about the only memorabilia still in my possession.empire was one of the first films I saw in the theater. I remember yoda being on the front page of the paper and thinking I AM SEEING THE NEWS TODAY. i fucking loved it.i saw return in the theaters like six times.in the early nineties dawn of the internet, finding IRC Star Wars rooms was an early obsession.in college, i lived with a guy who would put on any of the original movies and parrot the dialogue in sync with the film from the couch. he would do this about twice a week and every month or two he'd have a geek gathering and they'd play all the films back to back. i found this annoying but not so much so as to comment on it.in the run up to the prequels i bought A LOT of action figures that I never took out of the box. like a wall's worth.i waited in line for opening night of the phantom menace. that shit was terrible. i think i rewatched it on video a year later with a friend who bought a copy and demanded we see it together. it was still terrible.i saw whatever the fuck the second film was called on video about three years after it came out. that shit was also terrible.Somewhere around here i sold or gave away all my old star wars shit.i never saw the third one and yeah everyone says it's the best one. i am okay with never having seen it and never taking the time to see it.i'll probably watch the abrams one when it comes out on netflix or hbo or whatever in 2016; it'll probably be fine. i can see rewatching the canonical original trilogy if it's with a child who hasn't seen it before.i cannot imagine ever watching or rewatching the prequels or any other accompanying cartoons or nostalgia or whatever.star wars is really a silly phenomenon
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh. I'm with those who remember having to hesitate/justify/give up on Eps 2 and 3 re: should I bother? Should I get my friends to go? I remember leaving TPM citing the Roger Ebert review in my head, trying to get stoked for this really inventive, vivid world that had been created, but there wasn't anything that left your heart racing, made you want to be those characters or stuck in your brain at all really. And this isn't just being old and jaded; I remember leaving Pirates of the Caribbean a few years later and totally having that thing going of being a kid where after you leave the pirate movie you're ready to be a pirate all the way out the door and through the parking lot.
Recall how much of the push for III revolved around "No, it's better than the other two!" The title of "Attack of the Clones" also got a lot of people, not necessarily serious nerd types, to go "wait, this whole thing is kinda goofy."
The one thing AOTC has that I kinda liked, leaving the theater, was all the stuff with Obi-Wan going around solving a mystery on weird planets. It wasn't a good mystery, and they weren't great scenes, but at least it felt a little bit pacey, like there was a story going on, things were going to unfold rather than just happening. Similarly the one good thing in ROTS is Palpatine talking to Anakin, but they used most of that in the trailer. TPM has essentially nothing any Star Wars fan needs to see.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
reminder when you say "people thought it was garbage" you actually mean adults thought it was garbage, because they were too bluntly reminded this was a family film first and went about edited out jarjar scenes in fanmade copies like george lucas post edit maniacs.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
I remember an interview with the fight choreographer for the Luke/Vader fight, who was told "nothing too flashy - if we care more about the fight than who's fighting then we've lost them".
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, December 1, 2014 12:13 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this was the biggest thing in the RLM takedown of TPM, comparing the original trilogy duels to the prequels
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link
How anyone who loved all that camp kooky shit in the original trilogy had this massive problem all of a sudden with things they deemed too much aimed at kids. The prequels in other ways were a big step up in every regard. Other than II.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
"Ja Ja Binks makes the fucking Ewoks look like Shaft!"
― Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
Insisting that mega buxx = well- and fondly-remembered doesn't really work in a universe with Avatar.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
i still have no idea what the clones/jango fett/all that stuff was about, any of it. so many darths. so many tariffs. gr8 kids movie
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
camp kooky shit in the original trilogy
um, wrong
― Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
my experience mirrors forks' tbh
(with the exception of never having seen the 2nd or 3rd prequels beyond some random scenes on TV recently)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
I think the final act of ROTJ is very compelling cinema. Even the Ewok planet stuff I thought was fun and made a good dramatic counterbalance to the heavy stuff going on in space and on the death star. I think it's a very balanced final act with very good pacing.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link
avatar was a way better movie theater experience than any of the star wars prequels imo, even if i never need/want to see it again
― ciderpress, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link
How anyone who loved all that camp kooky shit in the original trilogy had this massive problem all of a sudden with things they deemed too much aimed at kids.
Yeah it's so hypocritical how the same people who enjoyed the Jim Henson creations in the original trilogy hated the gungans. Clearly they just forgot it's a kids movie.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link
Are we seriously, in 2014, having an argument with someone trolling on the "but the originals were made for kids too! Have I sufficiently blown your mind?" tip?
it's like poetry
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link
for anyone saying that people actually *liked* TPM when it first came out, check that Herring podcast linked above with Serafinowicz, to hear the story of the in-theater premiere-night reaction from the actual cast and crew and hold onto your hat.
― piscesx, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
Nowadays, I'm kinda more fascinated with Star Wars as a cultural institution than I am with any of its constituent cultural products (à la Disney).
But honestly, it was always more about the monster and droid design than anything else. That shit was dope.
― Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link
"Are we seriously, in 2014, having an argument with someone trolling on the "but the originals were made for kids too! Have I sufficiently blown your mind?" tip?
― Doctor Casino"
But and so and but so seems like you are (sorry if I ignored you earlier) and have been multiple times right in this thread, crazy right? 2014 seriously like too and!
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
was that gungan?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link
whatever you were going for there failed
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
^^^ the story of the Star Wars prequels
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link
He accidentally omitted the C I A L I S.
― Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link
was that gungan?― my jaw left (Hurting 2)
― my jaw left (Hurting 2)
whatever you were going for there failed― linda cardellini (zachlyon),
― linda cardellini (zachlyon),
David Foster Wallace actually, direct quote. Not that I'd expect you to know that.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link
proud of u
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
hahaha, this guy
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
Kooky one, Tanuki
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
Man that utility meter data thing really did a number on Shakey when it comes to Star Wars. RIP.
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
keep forgetting he's a sock
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
Shakes?
― 龜, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
I hear utility meter data figures heavily in the JJ Abrams sequels fyi
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
"whatever you were going for there failed
― linda cardellini (zachlyon),"
Haha. Oh dear linda cardellini, oh. dear. I should've worked some Shakaespeare in too.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
that Serafinowicz thing is a little time investment but it does build and build, fucking diiiiiiiiied laughing just now when it got to the issue of Terence Stamp's compensation (no spoilers).
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
i have been sonned don't forget me
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
Cardellini you've been sonned by a sock.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
the joke's on you i'm not actually linda cardellini
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link
no that means jokes definitely still on you
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
TPM has essentially nothing any Star Wars fan needs to see.
TPM has all of the ludicrous Queen Amidala wigs and makeup, which everyone needs to see.
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
a couple of ilx challops
you and rt both really need to take a step back from ilx imo
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, December 1, 2014 4:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha challumps am i right
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
Still haven't figured out the relationship between Padme and Queen Amidala xp
― 龜, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
lol
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Queen is an elected position on their planet (!) and her full name is Padme Amidala or some shit, iirc
― valleys of your mind (mh), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
xpost this is going to blow your mind, but padme and queen amidala are played by the same actress (natalie portman)! their characters also have a lot in common. i could explain more but it gets pretty nerdy
― ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
!
Why is one named Padme and the other is named Queen Amidala?
Sorry, that's jsut the first questino to pop into mym ind
― 龜, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Honestly this movie is so solidly pitched at Shakey's demographic I mean just look at this screencap
http://i.imgur.com/uIMVnES.jpg?1
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
Loooooooool
― 龜, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
one is the Queen, one is the Queen's body double
― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
amidala truthers are the worst
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
Queen amidala is her official name, Padme is her first name. They are the same character. She pretended to be her own handmaiden under the name Padme for a bit in TMP so she could check out tattooine or something.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 1 December 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
Who was the Queen then while Padme was the handmaiden
― 龜, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Why do they have different accents if they're the same person?
― jmm, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
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― Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 December 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link