Star Wars 7 shit talk

I thought a brilliant structural idea in Empire was to build tension and release out of the malfunctioning hyperdrive in the Falcon. When it finally does take off at the end, it's a fantastic moment.

(Empire also has an advantage in being able to delegate some of the more difficult storytelling challenges (getting the story going, wrapping it up) to its two adjacent episodes.)

Empire also has the advantage of Vader kicking ass

lol

he wipes out an entire officer's class because they can't park the star destroyer between the cones

xp it seems like the dramatic device of technology-not-working-right hit-the-tv-again gets a lot of mileage in the original trilogy, now that I think about it.

that's what Lucas doesn't get: the original trilogy worked in part because distant planets and shit are dirty.

Takes a lot of sweat, grease and trips to the tachi station to maintain a droid

it's obvious Aunt Beru reeks of BO as she pours bug juice from her aqua Tupperware.

Using original boxoffice to claim people loved film originally. Claiming people turned on it over the years. Then using re-release box-office from 2012 to claim... what exactly? That the change of opinion is actually only two years old? Like, even your own facts argue against you.

it's kinda hard arguing against a bunch of random points thrown at me that often willfully misinterpret what I've posted, what can I say.

bring back the utility data

I claimed people turned on it over the years *on the internet*, where the narrative that the prequels were awful has taken on a life of its own. But people still watch those prequels, they are not universally loathed.

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I hope the new movie contains a character that is an obvious Internet meme and the inclusion of said character causes the Internet to implode in a ball of self-regarding fury

basically I'm imagining Han and Leia saying "oh look, it's your old babysitter" and then nyancat flies into the room spouting an endless loop of music, Snarfing up everything all to be damned

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fE_YdMNIPPk/U0WouNghGTI/AAAAAAABVnk/p5ZDd5LKGG8/s1600/Jar-Jar-Binks.gif

Well, yeah, there must be people who like them. The Transformer films are also internet-loathed, but people still go to them. I remember back in the day, a guy from my school was on Danish television as a star wars nerd, and when asked who his favorite character was he said 'jar jar binks. because he is funny.' And how disgusted I was. And it took a bit of time for me to turn on the film as well, so it must have been some time after release of I.

But I also remember an immediate release of dissapointment and bad reviews.

I thought a brilliant structural idea in Empire was to build tension and release out of the malfunctioning hyperdrive in the Falcon. When it finally does take off at the end, it's a fantastic moment.

Notable that Lucas was canny enough not to include, in any of the prequels, a POV shot of a ship entering hyperspace. (i.e., shot from inside the cockpit). The first time you ever see it, if you watch in order, is after the Falcon escapes from Tatooine.

FWIW, my wife unequivocally loves TPM.

when was the last time you spoke to her?

May 23, 1999.

glad you guys finally have a thread to discuss the first 6 Star Wars movies

Abject avoidance is the best kind of shit talk.

Oh I thought this was the 7th star wars shit talk thread

I've run out of light sabre hilt theories and have to talk about something

The first three threads were universally loved at the time, but over the years, opinion started to sour.

DJP's post reminded me of this, which has to be the most awkward, laboured Star Wars meme insertion possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMaZlWkK8o

Still love Ahmed Best for lending his voice to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdS2kCUGvfo

That's because the show isn't for nerds, it's for people who might know a nerd or have observed one in the wild, which is why they had to set up the bit by explaining who said "it's a trap" and where it comes from.

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I love The Phantom Menace and I've always loved The Phantom Menace

That's some impressive self-gaslighting.

i consider TPM the best of the prequels (it's still fucking awful). Attack of the Clones is the real nadir, the exact moment being yoda leaping around with a lightsaber.

third one was tolerable if seen as gay parable

... How can the third one be seen as a gay parable?

what if yoda was originally a huge hulking angry green dude but then sheev shrank him using evil sith magic, that would've been cool(er)

ok not really

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yeah explain gay parable interp plz

Emperor Chicken Hawk openly lusting for Leif Garrett.

love that moment when he blasts SLJ out the window then looks at Anakin and mouth open goes AHHHHHHHHHH

so... ROTS is tolerable if you think its main allegory is that gay people are evil predators?

"From my point of view, heteros are evil!"

yeah it has the tone of those anti-marijuana PSAs from the fifties

"'Straight' is a point of view, Anakin."

goodthread

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4100099/palpatine-s-ahhh-o.gif

McDiamard does kill it in that scene.

wait, did I say The Phantom Menace? I meant the trailer, again

http://i.imgur.com/7554iFV.gif

I asked whether the movie was good, she was just like, yeah, it was pretty good

I rest my fucking case

― Οὖτις, 2. joulukuuta 2014 18:48 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people did NOT want to admit TPM was bad

― Οὖτις, 2. joulukuuta 2014 18:48 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Er, I mentioned this story because I wanted to argue against what you claimed upthread. This is the quote from you:

it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

― Οὖτις, 1. joulukuuta 2014 18:50 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In the case of my flatmate, it didn't take her years to admit it was a bad movie, just a few days. And she was like the most fanatical SW fan I knew, all my other friends agreed TPM sucked immediately after they'd seen it.

people thinking it sucks and people not wanting to watch it are two separate things, too

never underestimate the ability of human beings to rewatch garbage just because it's related to their favorite series

(*goes to watch Law & Order: Cincinatti)

fair enough Tuomas. Maybe Finns suffer less cognitive dissonance or something

yeah let's not fight..
http://www.stomptokyo.com/sings/swholiday/images/hug2.jpg