it's kinda hard arguing against a bunch of random points thrown at me that often willfully misinterpret what I've posted, what can I say.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
bring back the utility data
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
I claimed people turned on it over the years *on the internet*, where the narrative that the prequels were awful has taken on a life of its own. But people still watch those prequels, they are not universally loathed.
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
...
― 龜, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
I hope the new movie contains a character that is an obvious Internet meme and the inclusion of said character causes the Internet to implode in a ball of self-regarding fury
basically I'm imagining Han and Leia saying "oh look, it's your old babysitter" and then nyancat flies into the room spouting an endless loop of music, Snarfing up everything all to be damned
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fE_YdMNIPPk/U0WouNghGTI/AAAAAAABVnk/p5ZDd5LKGG8/s1600/Jar-Jar-Binks.gif
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link
Well, yeah, there must be people who like them. The Transformer films are also internet-loathed, but people still go to them. I remember back in the day, a guy from my school was on Danish television as a star wars nerd, and when asked who his favorite character was he said 'jar jar binks. because he is funny.' And how disgusted I was. And it took a bit of time for me to turn on the film as well, so it must have been some time after release of I.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
But I also remember an immediate release of dissapointment and bad reviews.
I thought a brilliant structural idea in Empire was to build tension and release out of the malfunctioning hyperdrive in the Falcon. When it finally does take off at the end, it's a fantastic moment.
Notable that Lucas was canny enough not to include, in any of the prequels, a POV shot of a ship entering hyperspace. (i.e., shot from inside the cockpit). The first time you ever see it, if you watch in order, is after the Falcon escapes from Tatooine.
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link
FWIW, my wife unequivocally loves TPM.
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
when was the last time you spoke to her?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
May 23, 1999.
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
glad you guys finally have a thread to discuss the first 6 Star Wars movies
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
Abject avoidance is the best kind of shit talk.
― Your Soup Is Inside Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
Oh I thought this was the 7th star wars shit talk thread
― Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
I've run out of light sabre hilt theories and have to talk about something
― Kooki-Wan Tanooki (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
The first three threads were universally loved at the time, but over the years, opinion started to sour.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
DJP's post reminded me of this, which has to be the most awkward, laboured Star Wars meme insertion possible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMaZlWkK8o
― jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link
Still love Ahmed Best for lending his voice to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdS2kCUGvfo
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
That's because the show isn't for nerds, it's for people who might know a nerd or have observed one in the wild, which is why they had to set up the bit by explaining who said "it's a trap" and where it comes from.
xpost
― Evan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
I love The Phantom Menace and I've always loved The Phantom Menace
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
That's some impressive self-gaslighting.
― You Got It, Dude! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link
i consider TPM the best of the prequels (it's still fucking awful). Attack of the Clones is the real nadir, the exact moment being yoda leaping around with a lightsaber.
― ryan, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
third one was tolerable if seen as gay parable
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
... How can the third one be seen as a gay parable?
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link
what if yoda was originally a huge hulking angry green dude but then sheev shrank him using evil sith magic, that would've been cool(er)
ok not really
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
yeah explain gay parable interp plz
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
Emperor Chicken Hawk openly lusting for Leif Garrett.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
love that moment when he blasts SLJ out the window then looks at Anakin and mouth open goes AHHHHHHHHHH
so... ROTS is tolerable if you think its main allegory is that gay people are evil predators?
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
"From my point of view, heteros are evil!"
― jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
yeah it has the tone of those anti-marijuana PSAs from the fifties
"'Straight' is a point of view, Anakin."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
goodthread
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4100099/palpatine-s-ahhh-o.gif
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
McDiamard does kill it in that scene.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
wait, did I say The Phantom Menace? I meant the trailer, again
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/7554iFV.gif
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
I asked whether the movie was good, she was just like, yeah, it was pretty good
I rest my fucking case
― Οὖτις, 2. joulukuuta 2014 18:48 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
people did NOT want to admit TPM was bad
Er, I mentioned this story because I wanted to argue against what you claimed upthread. This is the quote from you:
it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible
― Οὖτις, 1. joulukuuta 2014 18:50 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In the case of my flatmate, it didn't take her years to admit it was a bad movie, just a few days. And she was like the most fanatical SW fan I knew, all my other friends agreed TPM sucked immediately after they'd seen it.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
people thinking it sucks and people not wanting to watch it are two separate things, too
never underestimate the ability of human beings to rewatch garbage just because it's related to their favorite series
(*goes to watch Law & Order: Cincinatti)
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
fair enough Tuomas. Maybe Finns suffer less cognitive dissonance or something
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
yeah let's not fight.. http://www.stomptokyo.com/sings/swholiday/images/hug2.jpg
― piscesx, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
this is how i remember the prequels coming out -first one had so much hype coming in, was inevitably disappointing. darth maul and that song and that fight at the end were cool. the racism was weird. jar jar was always terrible. kid anakin was terrible.attack of the clones was more fun and marginally better, the romance was absolutely godawful. CG generally kinda sloppy looking. Yoda flipping around spastically was a rare high point.third was not great but much better than the first two, even with all the hamminess, still more entertaining/action-packed, less moments of talking and boredom
― Nhex, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
The element from the prequels that most regularly springs to my mind is Elan Sleazebaggano and his death sticks.
― Rubies! And Emeralds! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (5 years ago) Permalink
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
Maybe just a lot of windows, things going to be moving around. No big deal.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link
One of my fave (few) Gene Siskel stories was around the time of the SW re-releases, which happened to coincide with a brief re-release of The Godfather. Someone asked Siskel how the Godfather re-release print looked, and he said it was pretty much the same, except during the wedding scene they added a bunch of robots just walking around.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
i consider TPM the best of the prequels (it's still fucking awfulmediocre).
hyperbolic you shall not be
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
this kind of action meaningful in its contrast to the kind of action other movies might include: characters moving from place to place, for instance, or reacting physically to the information they receive, or interacting casually and spontaneously with others. you might have to cut all that but no matter how small the empty green box is you can def fit a window in there, and after that, well, it's imagination time.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
lol siskel
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
TPM had my favourite moment in the prequels, which was the final lightsaber battle being interrupted by forcefields going up, and Qui-Gon using the lull to get in some quick meditation.
― jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link