Star Wars 7 shit talk

I thought a brilliant structural idea in Empire was to build tension and release out of the malfunctioning hyperdrive in the Falcon. When it finally does take off at the end, it's a fantastic moment.

Notable that Lucas was canny enough not to include, in any of the prequels, a POV shot of a ship entering hyperspace. (i.e., shot from inside the cockpit). The first time you ever see it, if you watch in order, is after the Falcon escapes from Tatooine.

FWIW, my wife unequivocally loves TPM.

when was the last time you spoke to her?

May 23, 1999.

glad you guys finally have a thread to discuss the first 6 Star Wars movies

Abject avoidance is the best kind of shit talk.

Oh I thought this was the 7th star wars shit talk thread

I've run out of light sabre hilt theories and have to talk about something

The first three threads were universally loved at the time, but over the years, opinion started to sour.

DJP's post reminded me of this, which has to be the most awkward, laboured Star Wars meme insertion possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMaZlWkK8o

Still love Ahmed Best for lending his voice to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdS2kCUGvfo

That's because the show isn't for nerds, it's for people who might know a nerd or have observed one in the wild, which is why they had to set up the bit by explaining who said "it's a trap" and where it comes from.

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I love The Phantom Menace and I've always loved The Phantom Menace

That's some impressive self-gaslighting.

i consider TPM the best of the prequels (it's still fucking awful). Attack of the Clones is the real nadir, the exact moment being yoda leaping around with a lightsaber.

third one was tolerable if seen as gay parable

... How can the third one be seen as a gay parable?

what if yoda was originally a huge hulking angry green dude but then sheev shrank him using evil sith magic, that would've been cool(er)

ok not really

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yeah explain gay parable interp plz

Emperor Chicken Hawk openly lusting for Leif Garrett.

love that moment when he blasts SLJ out the window then looks at Anakin and mouth open goes AHHHHHHHHHH

so... ROTS is tolerable if you think its main allegory is that gay people are evil predators?

"From my point of view, heteros are evil!"

yeah it has the tone of those anti-marijuana PSAs from the fifties

"'Straight' is a point of view, Anakin."

goodthread

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4100099/palpatine-s-ahhh-o.gif

McDiamard does kill it in that scene.

wait, did I say The Phantom Menace? I meant the trailer, again

http://i.imgur.com/7554iFV.gif

I asked whether the movie was good, she was just like, yeah, it was pretty good

I rest my fucking case

― Οὖτις, 2. joulukuuta 2014 18:48 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people did NOT want to admit TPM was bad

― Οὖτις, 2. joulukuuta 2014 18:48 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Er, I mentioned this story because I wanted to argue against what you claimed upthread. This is the quote from you:

it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

― Οὖτις, 1. joulukuuta 2014 18:50 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In the case of my flatmate, it didn't take her years to admit it was a bad movie, just a few days. And she was like the most fanatical SW fan I knew, all my other friends agreed TPM sucked immediately after they'd seen it.

people thinking it sucks and people not wanting to watch it are two separate things, too

never underestimate the ability of human beings to rewatch garbage just because it's related to their favorite series

(*goes to watch Law & Order: Cincinatti)

fair enough Tuomas. Maybe Finns suffer less cognitive dissonance or something

yeah let's not fight..
http://www.stomptokyo.com/sings/swholiday/images/hug2.jpg

this is how i remember the prequels coming out -
first one had so much hype coming in, was inevitably disappointing. darth maul and that song and that fight at the end were cool. the racism was weird. jar jar was always terrible. kid anakin was terrible.
attack of the clones was more fun and marginally better, the romance was absolutely godawful. CG generally kinda sloppy looking. Yoda flipping around spastically was a rare high point.
third was not great but much better than the first two, even with all the hamminess, still more entertaining/action-packed, less moments of talking and boredom

The element from the prequels that most regularly springs to my mind is Elan Sleazebaggano and his death sticks.

How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.

― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 18:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

Maybe just a lot of windows, things going to be moving around. No big deal.

One of my fave (few) Gene Siskel stories was around the time of the SW re-releases, which happened to coincide with a brief re-release of The Godfather. Someone asked Siskel how the Godfather re-release print looked, and he said it was pretty much the same, except during the wedding scene they added a bunch of robots just walking around.

i consider TPM the best of the prequels (it's still fucking awfulmediocre).

hyperbolic you shall not be

How come every fucking scene in these movies involves someone standing in front of a window with a million fucking things happening in the background.

this kind of action meaningful in its contrast to the kind of action other movies might include: characters moving from place to place, for instance, or reacting physically to the information they receive, or interacting casually and spontaneously with others. you might have to cut all that but no matter how small the empty green box is you can def fit a window in there, and after that, well, it's imagination time.

lol siskel

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TPM had my favourite moment in the prequels, which was the final lightsaber battle being interrupted by forcefields going up, and Qui-Gon using the lull to get in some quick meditation.

^^^ this is definitely cool. that's the best prequel saber fight, right? don't really remember anything else except scissoring off christopher lee's head and the hysterical series nadir/apex when "general grievous" suddenly unfurls like 6 spinning lightsabers from panels in his shoulders or some shit.

I don't mind the effect. I thought it was effective in an Ep III scene in which this titanic battle of good vs evil rages while Coruscantians look for parking in rush hour traffic.

i think one of the worst part of the prequels is the CGI. it just doesn't convice, puppets have always been better

this kind of action meaningful in its contrast to the kind of action other movies might include: characters moving from place to place, for instance, or reacting physically to the information they receive, or interacting casually and spontaneously with others. you might have to cut all that but no matter how small the empty green box is you can def fit a window in there, and after that, well, it's imagination time.

And you can do it all in post! Good ol' one-take Lucas.

same thing goes for all the glossy machinery, whoever mentioned the dirtiness of outer planets and space junk in eps 4-6 upthread was otm

i think one of the worst part of the prequels is the CGI. it just doesn't convice, puppets have always been better

― marcos,

Always struck me as baffling that the Yoda puppet in ep I was so much shittier than the one in ep V.

For all the hate piled onto Jar-Jar, I don't think Watto gets complained about nearly enough

Watto seems like the epitome of a labored but terribly conceived CGI character