i think one of the worst part of the prequels is the CGI. it just doesn't convice, puppets have always been better
― marcos,
Always struck me as baffling that the Yoda puppet in ep I was so much shittier than the one in ep V.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link
For all the hate piled onto Jar-Jar, I don't think Watto gets complained about nearly enough
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link
Watto seems like the epitome of a labored but terribly conceived CGI character
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
watto is fucking hideous
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
I mentioned the trailer and concept of VII to my brother-in-law last weekend, and he wanted to know if the original star trio were in the cast. I am envious of such ignorance in this era.
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
Hey which one of you is this guy
http://www.clickhole.com/article/fanboy-loves-star-wars-so-much-he-plans-watch-forc-1514
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
xp Yeah, but it's not like they got him from Jim Henson and oh shit it's a racist-looking puppet, better write some lines for him.
(I mean, it's not like anything explains anything about Watto other than 'No-one says no to George')
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
I sort of got a kick out of mentioning the trailer in the office breakroom and watching the faces of a handful of male 30-something law firm associates all light up at once
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
one of the reasons I don't want to watch TPM with my daughter is that I am not looking forward to explaining how every alien is a racist caricature
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
I'm trying to think what else I liked in the prequels, and the pod race sequence is basically it. CG Ben-Hur was the only real idea these movies had.
― jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
The pod race was too goddamn long.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
The Darth Maul fight was basically out of a HK Wuxia movie and that was my favorite part of the prequels, I think
― 龜, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
My favorite Star Wars-related cultural products of late are the Uncut fan remakes and the grindhouse version of ANH.
― Rubies! And Emeralds! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
same thing goes for all the glossy machinery, whoever mentioned the dirtiness of outer planets and space junk in eps 4-6 upthread was otm
― marcos, Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
Thank you my good man *dons flowing Jedi robe*
― 龜, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
this is semi-intentional, isn't it? ie the "golden age" of the Republic giving way to the grimy oppressive nature of the Empire?
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
man a lot of rust accumulates in 18 years
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
you should see what happens to Boston roads over the course of one winter
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
It's a much-discussed aspect of the original trilogy, the "used future"
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link
Maybe late-'90s CGI tech just wasn't refined enough to create believable rust and grime.
― Rubies! And Emeralds! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link
I don't think it was necessarily solely supposed to be a result of the Empire, although that reading certainly makes more sense after the shininess of the prequels. But it makes particular sense that a shitty backwater like tatooine would have gunked up droids and speeders, or that the rebels' ships and equipment wouldn't be pristine.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
but Aunt Beru has the latest Tupperware!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link
Well she's a rep, hosts parties for her village and whatnot
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
ffs, I went the last 37 years thinking her name was Veru.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
Uncle Owen thought she was a Sand Person so don't worry.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
As a kid I thought he was Uncle Lowen
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
Liam Neeson did a modicum of acting in TPM compared to that vengeance shit he is now beloved for.
Who will do the most acting in The Force Wakes Up?
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
Neeson's hair did the acting. Neeson was elsewhere.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
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― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 2, 2014 3:47 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, I tried to make this point upthread -- the whole point of the Star Wars universe is that it's old and has this history, which Episodes I - III throw away by assuming the thousands of years of grit and grime and used spaceships actually were just an effect of the Empire happening
maybe dirt effects on computer animated characters were hard so Lucas was like "fuck it, make it all look brand new"
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
Even that Darth Maul fight scene, while cool, is sort of dramatically flawed in pitting two good guys against one bad guy (a problem semi-solved by the neat forcefield door gimmick) and by overuse of the can't-reach-lightsaber/trying-not-to-fall-down-massive-spaceshaft devices from the first trilogy, like you can't have that shit more than once in a scene
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
like the goddamn death star was totally new construction and even it didn't seem pristine. more so in ROTJ -- it's not yet finished and you see the scaffolding and open construction. everything in Episodes I - III was in perfect condition, even on old worlds, as if no one is tearing down or building anything and the story happens in this static universe
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
Hurting "Episode" 2, Jedi Fight Choreographer
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
I did chuckle when on the commentary track for the last prequel Lucas explained the 20-year construction of the Death Star w/a shrug: "Well, they had union trouble. Even an Empire has construction and union delays."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
I mean it's going to take at least 20 years to complete the Second Ave Subway so it doesn't seem that outrageous for a Death Star
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
They barely even have an Empire yet and they're already thinking about Death Stars.
― jmm, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
Really they couldn't do anything until they had more utility data.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
it's not really an ILX Star Wars thread until Ned and I run a joke into the ground
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
Rather.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
it's not running a joke into the ground if you lacked utility data
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link
http://www.clickhole.com/article/6-easter-eggs-you-might-have-missed-star-wars-trai-1518
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link
Utilty data reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftU5GfORvH8
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:42 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
Yeah you can do a little retconning and get there
Cloud City is meant to be the symbol of opulence I think in the trilogies but by today's standards it comes off as lol 70's
I was thinking more of the modular nature of the tech
Like tons of little extraneous things hanging off of everything, even the Star Destroyers, all this great detail of piping and tubing etched into the interstices
Like the X-Wing being so modular that it needs an astromech droid to set in the back and then the droid pops out and fixes shit while in battle!
Like compare the X-wing or even the TIE Fighter to the fucking Naboo starfighter that looks like it was carved from a solid piece of carbonite
― 龜, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
mon cal cruisers were a bit more organic looking /nerdery
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
Yeah but there was backstory behind that
― 龜, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
They grew those fucking ships in an ocean!
<3 u 龜
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
Have also heard a lot of people make car analogies in re late 70s/early 80s vs late 90s/early 00s -- the sleekness and curviness of the prequel tech matches this, as does the fact that shit in the original trilogy had lots of parts and people were always fixing things, whereas no one works on their own cars anymore.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Gd6xbgV.jpg
This ship is cool as hell. Probably my favorite starship
― 龜, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
although there's the whole soapbox derby build-a-pod thing
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
when it debuted Threepio said, "Ohhh! They've encased it in carbonite!"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
that's one ship with a bunch others docked to the back, right? xxpI concur
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link