https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEle_DLDg9Y
― Monarch of the Murder Chair (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
I always figured the Emperor was self-consciously evil. He knows he's a huge prick and loves it. That might not be a subtle or coherent representation evil, but he's there as a kind of imaginary limit against which the more conflicted characters are measured.
― jmm, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
he's the Grand Inquisitor, duh
― the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
he believes he's using evil means to achieve good outcomes
― the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
good guys don't shoot lightning out of their fingertips and he really wanted to do that
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, his second-in-command is someone he has psychologically tortured, and that's how it's supposed to be - he might replace him with someone else that he's psychologically tortured, leading up to him taking his father's place by killing him - and that would be fine too. It's a win-win world when you're the Senior Sith Lord.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
Hi I made you some pronoun salad, hope you like it.
xp KOTOR games were actually quite good at that, if you choose light or dark you get broadly similar powers (suggestion vs overwhelming their mind etc), but only one gives you lightning fingertips.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
Anakin's temptation in the prequels would have been a lot more convincing if it actually was played as more like what Yoda describes in the original films: it's not stronger, but it's quicker, so you could come to believe you were doing the righteous and necessary thing, directly, while those fuddy-duddy Jedis dither over whether it's the right thing to do. He should have been tempted by, like, resolving the war quickly by a gradually worsening series of atrocities, not by the promise of a magic anti-death-in-childbirth potion, coming soon from the Emperor. Also, tangent and old news but maaaaaaan how lame is it that "he helped the Emperor hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights" means "he killed a bunch of kids this one time and then the Emperor activated his robot kill program"? It's tough for me now to remember the days when I imagined the "Jedi Knights" as kind of a small number of widely-dispersed do-gooders, out there righting wrongs and guarding peace without much fanfare or institutional structure.... like how Gandalf and Radagast do their own thing but just kind of bump into each other once every hundred years.
Making me wonder if there are any good sci fi prequels, cf. how the SW prequels and our old friend Prometheus try to flesh out something that's just suggested in the original text ('Jedi Knights' and the dead navigator) and fail
― cardamon, Thursday, 11 December 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell,
more vinaigrette I need
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link
Also, tangent and old news but maaaaaaan how lame is it that "he helped the Emperor hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights" means "he killed a bunch of kids this one time and then the Emperor activated his robot kill program"?
he did in the books -- he becomes Tarkin's enforcer basically, brought on as the guy who has most commerce with the Emperor (although Tarkin does too).
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link
― cardamon, Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:38 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
caprica was good for about an episode
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 11 December 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link
which one?
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 11 December 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Rey.jpghttp://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Finn.jpghttp://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Kylo-Ren.jpg
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/12/11/star-wars-the-force-awakens-character-names/
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
Kylo Renney
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
Kylo Riley
― Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
I totally had a huge pile of Star Wars bubblegum cards. Back when I was 4, they used to sell bubblegum cards from ice cream trucks. I have, like, a ton of Star Wars, a handful of Battlestar Galactica cards, and maybe four Kiss cards. And somehow I also ended up with Wayne Gretzky's rookie card. I didn't even know they made hockey trading cards.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
oscar isaac as damon dash or smth
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
as an elementary school star wars CCG obsessive who basically sees all star wars media through the lens of the star wars CCG, those cards are alright. but the names are dumb.
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
yeah, it's star wars
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
I've still got a stash of the original cards around in my desk. I mean, why wouldn't I, me being me.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
I am a tedious fuck for being annoyed that those cards all have the exact same stains/creases, etc
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 12 December 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link
They're from an old universe
― Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 December 2014 00:56 (nine years ago) link
IF U ARE GOING TO POST THEM, POST THEM ALL FFS
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-the-force-awakens-oscar-isaac-poe-dameron.jpg
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-the-force-awakens-bb-8.jpg
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-the-force-awakens-trading-card-stormtroopers.jpg
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-the-force-awakens-trading-card-x-wings.jpg
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-the-force-awakens-trading-card-millennium-falcon.jpg
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link
how's yr petard?
― Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 12 December 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link
i meant the pictures u pedant, i know they were in the link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link
clear your cache
― Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:11 (nine years ago) link
huh
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link
(They've messed with the links, made direct links to the JPEGs show the entire page)
― koogs, Friday, 12 December 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link
(Ah, I have images off so I see only the links. If I click on them it goes to the page. But if I long click and open in new tab I get the image.)
― koogs, Friday, 12 December 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link
i dont see any of that on zing
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link
petard shmetard
"open image in new tab" takes me to collider.com home page
― Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 12 December 2014 04:58 (nine years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link
can we pedant about other things now
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 December 2014 05:09 (nine years ago) link
you guys sure ate up that sith.
Has anyone unearthed which of these VII characters are the progeny of the original trio of leads?
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 December 2014 06:27 (nine years ago) link
Some of these names, like "Poe Dameron" or "Finn", sound curiously English, so I think it's time to bring up this question again:
Are the people in the Star Wars movies humans?
― Tuomas, Friday, 12 December 2014 09:37 (nine years ago) link
Is there really no other nationality that the name 'Finn' makes you think of?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 December 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link
HAHA
― Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 12 December 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link
lol
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link
"Finn" is not a Finnish name. There is an archaic female first name "Suometar", which translates roughly to "Finlandess" (as in "lioness"), but I don't think anyone's been given that name in decades.
― Tuomas, Friday, 12 December 2014 11:57 (nine years ago) link
Finn's not an particularly English name either - it is apparently top 10 in Germany - have you tried www.ilxor.de ?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:15 (nine years ago) link
What's the source for that? I've never met or heard of a German with the first name "Finn"...
― Tuomas, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link
A minute's Googling, and this: http://www.firstnamesgermany.com/
Though it's only fair to point out that I'm really not that invested in this beyond pointing out that Luke (and possibly Ben?) are the only English names in a series known for ridiculous names, AND that this isn't really a reasonable link to your 43rd theory of point-missing.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link
It's Gaelic isn't it? Finn MacCool!
― Frederik B, Friday, 12 December 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link
pointing out that Luke (and possibly Ben?) are the only English names in a series known for ridiculous names
Also Leia (a variant of Leah), Owen and Lobot.
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 12 December 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link