Real England

thought some of the unfamiliar might enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5o1SCETBRc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6dW-Cr3S1U

Huddersfield 1990

Lol That is Deighton where I was born and raised. Later in the doc there is a mixed race dude called Leon who is a self confessed house burglar, he talks about a botched burglary where the tenant wakes up and he makes a daft comment like "the dirty bastard was sleeping in his socks". Not long after this doc was made he was kidnapped by a serious Mancunian drug dealer (for some ridiculous failed drugs robbery fiasco) who kept him prisoner for weeks and tortured him, beat the crap every day.
There is a real nasty fucker on here who plays the benevolent community leader, he is one of the most repulsive thugs I have known, apart from the serial killer I went to school with from neighbouring Bradley!

I'm not talking about your clip obv. I mean the full length doc

At a point in the late 90's I ended up managing the bookies at the top of Deighton Rd. Most dangerous job I ever had, I got coshed on the head and a robber shot at the ceiling above me in the same month once. Death threats were the norm on a daily basis but that was just bantz! The guy who shot at me, shot himself the next day when surrounded by WYP armed response guns and there was an eerie whispering campaign by his family that I was at fault for his death for talking to the police. Not been back there since tbh and the bookies got closed by WYP because of drug related shit.

I know this far fetched but it is the truth!

sounds

fuuuck

the first thing i think of in that documentary, same as anything from 90-93 or so that i see these days whether factual or fictional or wherever it is set, is how old it seems

that is a tautology because it should seem old, it's just that realization that it has gone from something like like a living past that is still contiguous with the present to a latent archival past, a separate epoch that is as irrecoverable as the 70s or the 50s

i'd have been sat there in a motorcycle helmet all day if that was me xp

and when i say 'there', i actually mean 'at home, preferably somewhere under my bed'

Jesus Xelab!

And my word... That Huddersfield Estate doc is absolutely amazing. I need to find a full copy w/ better sound of that. Simply amazing. Chills.

that burglar kid is quite handsome, at least when placed next to his friend with the chris waddle italia 90 look

xxxxp I've thought about this a lot recently. I was 20 in 1994, and life back then seemed a lot closer to living in 1974 than 1994 seems to 2014. I think about the kind of thing that adults did in 1994 compared to now, and it just feels like something from one of those fly-on-the-wall BBC documentaries. Early 2000s are starting to take on that feeling of being in the past although to a lesser extent. If people from 2004 were brought forward to the present minds would be blown, but people from 1994 would still be gibbering at the sight of an iPad two weeks later.

idk if i posted this documentary before but even 1996 here seems like a long time ago, mostly because the accents seem to owe more to the distant past than to the present, and though that always seemed like such a longue durée process, it evidently isn't and it shifts rapidly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvFKh_3evC8

the horrid old examiner cunt especially seems like something from the 50s

That documentary on the Knowledge is an exception, but a lot of BBC programmes from the early 90s have this almost RP narration.

yes i think i remember some factoid about 3% of people speaking RP but if ever that were true, it isn't any more, save for a few people of advancing years virtually nobody now speaks with those classical reithian intonations

I Just re-watched the The Estate for the first time in decades, it's all different to how I remembered it! And I made comments that referred to a different doc that is related to the local riots in Brackenhall in the 90's, can't find it yet. Also Chris Waddle said stuff I thought Leon said.

the first thing i think of in that documentary, same as anything from 90-93 or so that i see these days whether factual or fictional or wherever it is set, is how old it seems

that is a tautology because it should seem old, it's just that realization that it has gone from something like like a living past that is still contiguous with the present to a latent archival past, a separate epoch that is as irrecoverable as the 70s or the 50s

this, from 1990, looking back at the 60s. as long ago now as it is from its own subject matter. it can be difficult to see past things like the faded film quality, but the delivery has that sort of paternalist feel. the cars are striking,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46QUXfghQZk

Deller's re-enactment of the battle of orgreave, almost as long ago as it is to the real orgreave (only just started watching it though - re-enactments add another level of confusion though).

Documentaries about wakefield in 91 looking another era, 98 looked closer to now than to 91

Accents of old people on the british library site

Listening to an 90 year old huddersfield man in 1994, recognizable. an 80 year old golcar man in 1974 sounding almost west country, didnt even code as yorkshire really

Did you previously live in West Yorkshire anvil?

previously and currently!

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Gimme your own story anvil, or not, but would be genuinely interested to hear your connection with the area.

https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/6634059331615996275

oh don't click that

was meant to be copying a gif advert for some online lottery thing that was very very real england

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n24/james-meek/worse-than-a-defeat

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this is an exceptionally good article, i was going to post it somewhere when it was published but it could have gone in about a dozen threads (including this one) so i sort of forgot

PArticularly liked the Conradian bit at the start about 'a local warlord'

got fascinated by the arrse thread on it tho it doesn't go anywhere particularly
http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/worse-than-a-defeat.223398/
arrse has some real generally

a withering dismissal there from the person with the oskar dirlewanger avatar

The idea was controversial. For one example, a reviewer mentioned "the ridicule which the 'earnest' and the 'muscular' men are doing their best to bring on all that is manly", though he still preferred "'earnestness' and 'muscular Christianity'" to eighteenth-century propriety.[16] For another, a clergyman at Cambridge University horsewhipped a friend and fellow clergyman after hearing that he had said grace without mentioning Jesus because a Jew was present.[17] A commentator said, "All this comes, we fear, of Muscular Christianity."[18]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dKbONj7nJ8

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This long upload from a damaged VHS cassette is near unwatchable at times, but it is worth persevering with for some of the gems it contains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9sMZ_5NjM8

^ goths dancing to the monkees.

It is there is not a bit less goths dancing and a bit more talking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUlWf4Bmgc8

oh man, Quavers aren't that good

as an aside I found this via a fruitless search for a youtube of 1950s British highlife song 'Money Money' by The Quavers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbP9OUzMHE8

my sister's fiance has signed up for his first white collar boxing match. i know this is far from a uniquely english thing but just feel the real in this photo from his gym:

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/38a8d3_ffaf8c21a016465a8b6a63ae6138d616.jpg

not him btw

On 13 October 2012, Neilson Promotions, a Swindon-based white-collar-boxing promotor, put on the largest show of its kind to date. A venue verified attendance of 1398 watched ten contests at the Oasis Leisure Centre in Swindon with the main event seeing Dave 'Bam Bam' Gregory retain his NP Heavyweight title against Rich 'The Tank' Loveday over three rounds.

that's not the same dave gregory from swindon that i'm thinking of surely

http://www.sportswindon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/dave-gregory_8709-LR.jpg

hmmm, i'm thinking maybe not

The Big Narstie video led me down a POPEK MONSTER rabbit hole.

http://youtu.be/p6Z-gsQLJjk

^^ I think that has more views that German Whip and That's Not Me put together. Some London realness in there.

his two victories were against 'glen reid' and 'kev sims', who might even be real people