the Turkish filmmaker Nuri Bilge Ceylan

Andrei Rublev 1966 Andrei Tarkovsky
Au Hasard Balthazar 1966 Robert Bresson
L'Avventura 1960 Michelangelo Antonioni
L'Eclisse 1962 Michelangelo Antonioni
Late Spring 1949 Ozu Yasujirô
A Man Escaped 1956 Robert Bresson
Mirror 1974 Andrei Tarkovsky
Scenes from a Marriage 1995 Ingmar Bergman
Shame 1968 Ingmar Bergman
Tokyo Story 1953 Ozu Yasujirô

Very symmetrical.

I haven't seen Winter Sleep yet, but man, Film Comment was not kind to it a few issues back.

which critic?

Think it was their editor-in-chief, or Taubin maybe.

FC put Interstellar on the cover, y'know. With TWO full-length critical appreciations.

The imagery in Winter Sleep seems incredibly important, I think. It's clearly carefully made. I just think the connection between style and theme is more oblique than it used to be. Which is cool, just means I have to think about it...

"If the dialogue says more than the image, that is not nec crucial."

i disagree. cause it's cinema.

Dreyer, for example, combined imagery within dialog, to perfection.
Winter Sleep, i think, is more or less dialog OR image, usually not together, and that's fine as long as you don't have too much dialog..

You must love Eric Rohmer.

Didn't have a problem w/ the long dialogue scenes in WS - it's a film about an actor, the conversations are another performance, the firelit rooms a stage (and as Rivette makes clear, there is in fact a deep relationship between cinema and theatre). It seemed quite brave - or bloody-minded - of Ceylan to retreat into the interior after roaming the countryside in his previous film, and I thought the film really pulled off that sense of passions/feelings shutting down, hibernating.

i do actually. but more Green Ray and less Maude..
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well exactly; just because there's a lot of dialogue doesn't mean the visuals are null.

WPT, despite the lengthy dialouges, is a superb piece of filmmaking. Excellent movie.

You should get this Blu-ray of THE WILD PEAR TREE not for my essay but because it has A SIX AND A HALF HOUR MAKING OF DOCUMENTARY on it. (Also, the movie's great. ) https://t.co/yG4rIvIWgZ

— Bilge Ebiri (@BilgeEbiri) October 17, 2019

So want to watch that making of. Also, the film is extremely good.

Yeah feels like it was slept on a bit?

I very much liked The Wild Pear Tree. It certainly didn't stint on the alienation, and alienating qualities, of its protagonist. Novelistic in the better sense, tho I see complaints about the length of his films are increasing in some quarters.

Need to see that. Maybe even today, if we're considering it eligible for the poll again. If I loved the previous two but slightly preferred Winter Sleep...does this continue along that path, or diverge intriguingly?

someone my age no longer remembers films I saw 3+ years ago well. :/ But it's recognizably occupied with his concerns etc.

opened in the US January 2019

ah nice ok ty! it's on the pile

Funnily enough, it's been in my Netflix queue for months, suddenly becoming available yesterday.