Which "Class of '99" major American filmmaker has most flagrantly sold out to awards-baiting?

I went in not expecting a comedy, was the problem

or at least, I was expecting a darker/bleaker comedy a la Barton Fink

I know the dates are when they were linked/uploaded, it's when the reviews reference 'cult status' etc. that I know it's a later take.

I think Lewbowski's path to at least cult acclaim was pretty close to instant.

clemenza. I don't get your warpath on Wes Anderson.

When I hate a film as much as I hated Grand Budapest Hotel--and I probably hated it as much as any film by anyone who ever made a film I love (Rushmore)--it's not very interesting to hear me go on about why. I end up as shrill and as repetitive as however the film struck me in the first place. The short version has nothing to do how the film figures into Anderson's artistic timeline, or anything other than how excruciating I found the actual experience of sitting through it. For what it's worth, I've been okay with most of what he's done since Rushmore, though nothing has come close to it for me; haven't seen Fox.

When people say he's all style and no substance I just think they're not paying attention.

I do pay attention to his films; he earned that much with Rushmore.

ha I forgot yr visceral hatred of GBH. seems like an outlier reaction tbh

Ah, I haven't seen GBH yet.

i really enjoyed 'the life aquatic' considerably, i enjoyed its over the top nature. the rescue scene is A+.

'the big lebowski' felt like a step back for some reason bc i guess reviewers were expecting the coens to turn into atom egoyan all of a sudden after 'fargo' but that's what happens when critics try to fit filmmakers into a pattern or create a career narrative. not a huge lebowski fan here, tbh. i think their post lebowski work is a lot better than their other stuff as well though.

I hated Lebowski when it came out, but probably because I took the Coens more seriously than they deserved. I have not seen Life Aquatic or Express since they came out, because I disliked them both so much,but Fox, Moonrise and Hotel I think are so good I might take the three of them over his first three.

that's just, like, your opinion, man

Empire review i posted is contemporary. got 3 stars from Ebert back in the day too. Guardian '98 review was sniffy but positive.

even though i saw it within the last six months, i have little recollection of GBH. ditto MK, though I recall loving it. Fox is imo really great and something i'm always happy to watch with someone that has never seen it before, it's kind of an autumn tradition for me now

never saw express, mostly because i was so disappointed by the life aquatic

I will stan for DE, it's better than Life Aquatic.

Weird - Googling "Darjeeling Express" brings up the wiki page of the film, but I've not seen anything calling it by a name other than "The Darjeeling Limited"

That's how memorable it is.

Oh sure, I was just struck that googling something in quotes usually only gets you exactly that phrase - even Google has forgotten what it's called.

ok DL whatever

I think it is great at capturing the entitled western tourist view of India, which tbf is probably a more realistic depiction of India than what you see in most Bollywood films

though that could be the entitled western tourist view of Indian cinema

Bollywood doesn't do realism really, I don't think any of its most ardent fans would argue otherwise

Don't think Limited captured much of anything, iirc. I like Wes Anderson, but all of his movies exhibit a similarly entitled Western tourist view, of sorts.

That said, I thought his last three had a more nuanced and complex view of relationships/perspectives. Between adults and children, children and the world, privilege and denial, entitlement and earned rewards, platonic and emotional love, etc..

What is the opposite of entitlement?

Darjeeling was kind of his last daddy-issue-centered film, which he needed to stop doing. Still mining that a bit (both the kid in Moonrise and the bellhop in Budapest, with Willis and Fiennes respectively) but it's better integrated into the whole film.

def daddy issues in Mr. Fox!

http://i.imgur.com/E42m0.jpg

yes, but dome more cleverly, not HERE ARE MY DADDY ISSUES

take that pic to the Teal & Orange thread.