ILX Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball League 2003 -- Part 2 . . .

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Also, apologies hstencil, I didn't mean to sound like an ass. I just get really frustrated when non-egregious trades constantly get vetoed.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

also other good hitting catchers were still available in the waivers.

No harm, no foul, Diamond. I was just jokin' right back at ya.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hstencil, the idea is to let people manage their own teams.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

That didn't answer any of my questions, mark. If one veto kills a trade, and our lurker owner (par example) never logs in, isn't this whole system pretty bad?

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

We can REJECT trades? I did not know that. I posted my query / quizzicality (sic, you betcha) re: the LoDuca/Biddle swap to the BB on the league page, but I don't have any actual problem w/ the trade - I was just awonderin' awhy this trade was going through. In hindsight, perhaps it was not best to voice this guhwha in public - it's the Selig in me, alas.

And I take umbrage at Yanc3y's claim that 1) I only post to this thread when I'm doing well and 2) that I'm not doing well. (Note: I am in denial.) Also - 3) I can't hit for shit.

And, yo, commish, I'm always here, in some form (usually corporeal, except on every other weekend, when I'm magma). What's up? (Feel free to e-mail me if it's a "sensitive" issue - cf. chronic rash, dysentery (sic again), Tourette's, etc.)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Your questions implied that every trade should go through every owner, which is a system I don't necessarily agree with.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's more like SARS, methinks.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

(My last one was to Hstencil. Friggin' crossposts. CONTROVERSY!)

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

mark, my questions were asking as to whether that was the case. I have no idea if it is, I'd like some clarification.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

"the current system is no good for letting all owners know about impending trades" -> why SHOULD it be?

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

maybe because not all of us can be logged in to Fantasy Baseball 24-7?

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

You're missing the point. Why should *you* be notified about a deal between two other consenting parties?

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

You know, the way I thought I understood it, the commish is the only person with the option to veto trades. All we get to do is send him/her emails complaining. So, if the commish only vetoes either egregious trades (dumping of players, mistakes, etc.) then we'll all be happy, right? Gygax, you're still commish, right? Don't veto anymore trades.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Re: this whole trade business - from what I understood, the system worked as such (and I think should be like this, if it isn't already):

1) any PENDING trades (that is, trades accepted by both parties) are posted on your team page - it's a bit hard to catch if you're not looking for it, but it's there.

2) The commish then has first, last, and final say regarding the "fairness" of the trade, taking into consideration the hubbub the other owners raise about the trade, and whether that hubbub is justified or just hot air.

3) The commish then accepts / vetoes the trade, assuming the commish is around to do so.

3a) There should be a window of 2-3 days between the trade getting OKed by trade participants and the trade going through (barring commish involvement) to allow for debate between the owners.

The only time I've ever been involved w/ a vetoed trade was when some shit-for-brains sad sack in my keeper league decided to try & screw the top teams in the league a couple years back by trying to trade Posada & Jeter for Ass & Crap to a team competing for the top spot. Unless the lopsidedness of the trade is this blatant, however, there shouldn't be any monkeying around by the owners (cf. last year's real "trade" between the Expos & Red Sox & Marlins involving Cliff Floyd & dubious pitching prospects, which STILL doesn't make a lick of sense & is rumored to be the result of some owner/commish finagling).

I have no idea if any of this is pertinent to the debate at hand. I'm the worst vice commissioner ever.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thank God I'm HOTT.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think you are both HOTT and OTM, David.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

mark, so we should just have secret trades then? That's somehow the fairest option?

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

METAPHYSICAL FANTASY BASEBALL...

because two managers in cahoots could be subverting the system. obv. there's no $$$ involved but what price fame and glory?

Gygax, you're still commish, right? Don't veto anymore trades.

Hey thanks chump you nice person. As explained (what I thought was clearly) above, it was an honest mistake.

But to address your concerns, I will veto trades as warranted (see commish duties), I thought that the option in the sheet above was not the same as the commish tools "prevent trade" option.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

One way to make sure folks know about a pending trade, if no one notices the li'l reminder up on the top of their team page (just above the lineups), is to post to the BB on the standings page, or type "YO! TRADE!" in this thread & list the details.

And then we can talk about each other's mommas.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey thanks chump you nice person. As explained (what I thought was clearly) above, it was an honest mistake.

Awww c'mon, I was just saying that that's a solution (not vetoing trades) to people getting their knickers twisted. Obviously you made a honest mistake. We all do, etc.

If peeps want to know about pending trades, just look on your team page every couple days. They're up at the top and you have 2 days to say something about them.

Anyway, time to remember... 'tis just a game!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Your questions implied that every trade should go through every owner, which is a system I don't necessarily agree with.

Well right now I guess I also feel this way. Reality baseball GMs make trades all the time and nobody gets up in their shiznit.

It's fine that David R wants to second-guess the Biddle-Lo Duca trade and we can talk about it here the way we trash talk and debate in general, but my feeling is that it's going to be more fun a season for everyone if people don't start patronizing each other and vetoing/protesting trades because they think it's not in the other managers' best interests. It could get ugly and vindictive. I am somewhat capricious but whatever, my hottie pitchers are doing ok and it's baseball -- anything can happen -- like the Angels.

Re: the Biddle deal: I don't mind dealing Biddle to Leee because I am kicking a$$ in the pitching categories and Leee is suffering in pitching, whereas I might not deal a good pitcher to, say the Stevenson Pockets, because they are pretty strong in pitching. I imagine Leee might feel the same way about his offense and my offense. Have a heart -- I had a good day yesterday, but in general my offense is near the bottom in almost every category.

Anyway, MarKKKKKKKKK is off to another good start in the young pitchers' duel but what is he doing walking Vasquez? That's nuts!

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Reality baseball GMs make trades all the time and nobody gets up in their shiznit.

Reality GMs have owners that will fire their asses for even imagining being on the short end of an unfair trade.

your bvlgari watch for my casio?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

No problem -- it's a Korean fake. (I'm actually wearing my Bvlgari knockoff pendant today)

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why, one might ask, am I trying to corner the market on strikeouts? Good question. I often ask myself the same question and then I fall in love with my strikeout stat all over again.

Welovesthe ssstrikeoutsss, the precioussss . . . .

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Vazquez has a sick line today! I must have him!

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Herve Vazquez is mine!!!!!

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

He will be mine! Oh yes.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Herve! Do not look into her eyes, Herve!! Do not become just another mop up hottie!

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you look my direction, felicity, you'll see Jake Peavy dangling in front of yr eyes!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha, yes I am the Brian Cashman of hoarding pitchers. Jake Peavy, please bring these nachos down to those folks in Section 204 and don't forget to wear your ChicksDigKs uniform cap. Thanks.

As I said before, I would field a team of all pitchers if I could. I like NL rules! I love the double switch! The best is when they put the situational lefty in the outfield so they can bring him back and then someone hits the ball out there at him, ha ha! Or when they run out of players and they bring in Greg Maddux to pinch hit. Pitcher humor! Ha! Ha!

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

good thing the trophy wives benched jensen... he's getting his bottom flogged.

dusty baker loves to ph batters, f. hope you get some of that.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't believe Damien "Scab" Miller's HR is carrying the Cubs today.

Yanc3y, your Keith Foulke looked good yesterday. What do you call that pitch he has? A throw-ball?

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

CURRENT k COUNT

Herve 10
Markkk 9

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

What a bloodbath. Wish I were there.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

11k's! Sosa 3 whiffs.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

My Foulke AND my Zito (da other league) looked good yesterday. Which pitch are you referring to? His makeshift palmball?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

M E M O R A N D U M

To: Cubs
From: Felicity
Re: Today's game
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Please don't blow it. Or if you do, try to see if Biddle can get a win or something.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dennis Tankersley tankin' it NONSHOCKAH

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, he has this weird pitch where he hides the ball and then just like straight-arms it. Sterling Hitchcock and the pitcher on the baseball Coke vending machine at the Chelsea Piers batting cage hide the ball that same way. That way of hiding the ball turns me on.

It was good when Zito explained his three-fingered curve ball on BT last night.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

tankersley can't even get it within a foot of the plate.

my #1 draft pick with a hit, RBI and an R in the first... where art thou chortlers?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did he explain it with an "Aw shucks" grin and a sly twinkle in his eye?

TANK HAS NOW WALKED IN TWO STRAIGHT RUNS!!!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll chortle all fucking day, gygax!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did he explain it with an "Aw shucks" grin and a sly twinkle in his eye?

Yes! It was like Barry was looking right at me. I think he was.

Sorry to miss you at the big Death From Above fest. Anyway, even I am worried about Markkkkkkkkkkk's pitch count. Dusty, don't break his wing! This what Juan Cruz is for!

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

felicity, when are we going to the batting cages?

The catcher I picked up the other day is 3 for 4 today.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sometime, maybe not on a weekend. That was a nightmare. Alternately, we could round up some folks to go to the $$$$ one on the Upper West side.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

ok I GET IT ALREADY, Javier Vazquez, you are good at STRIKING PEOPLE OUT. Sheesh, talk about "not subtle."

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

correction: 3 for 5 with a homer and a double.

Anytime's good for me, felicity.

hstencil, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

looks like herve won't get the win, but i'll make out if Remlinger or Guthrie get the save.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cruz: good
Guthrie: bad
Remlinger: gray

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did Macdougal get the save for the KC game? I'm seeing conflicting box scores. OH NO!

Remlinger = GREAT

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago) link


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