2015 American Politics Thread: The 114th Congress Is in the House!

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and can someone tell me why the tea party aka the hard right of the gop gets its own sotu response? have there usually been multiple dem responses made by future presidential candidates or a lunatic fringe or what? someone link me to the dennis kucinich sotu responses.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

I'm pretty sure whoever wants to respond can prepare a response

example (crüt), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

Yes, but I don't recall lefty ones. Maybe Morbs remembers some. I see there was discussion of the SOTU speech in the Barack Obama flaws thread

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

no surprise there

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link

will never understand why this shit (cf. Bachmann family farm subsidies) doesn't get more traction in the liberal lamestream media

casual male (will), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

the right gets them because there is no one right wing voice of lunacy and because phony notions of balance.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

obv liberal lamestream needs scare quotes

casual male (will), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link

Hyde Amendment not enough, of course

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

At the center of the controversy over the pulled vote and the target of much of the ire from anti-abortion activists is Congresswoman Renee Ellmers, a 3rd term member from North Carolina, who objected to language in the bill that would have required women to report their rapes to police prior to seeking an abortion. Ellmers and Rep. Jackie Walorski withdrew their co-sponsorship of the bill last week.

The vote was to take place on the same day as the March for Life, when hundreds of thousands anti-abortion protesters march through D.C on the anniversary of the Roe vs. Wade court decision. The House instead passed a bill banning taxpayer funding for abortions.

goole, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link

yeah I heard that on the NPR report. "It's on YOU, women, to show a police report before we let you go to the clinic!"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

I like how the House GOP's backup tactic was to ban something that doesn't exist. good job guys.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link

Looking forward to the Werewolf and Dracula Protection Bill.

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

I love how it's suddenly not "murder" if it's a rape. Sometimes I'm afraid of what an illogical fruitcake far right nutter country we can be. This stuff is embarrassing.

SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Friday, 23 January 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link

the rape exemption is like a "two wrongs make a right" type of thing iirc

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link

Honest about how some folks could die, but not honest about the merits of the conservative Burr-Coburn-Hatch plan alternative to Obamacare, that has been criticized by both sides

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

honestly I respect people who oppose abortion in all cases including rape and incest more than those who make exceptions only for that.

akm, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link

Likewise, thousands of people die in homicides in the United States every year. We could reduce this number substantially, but we have (at least implicitly) decided that the costs — financial and otherwise — of more intrusive monitoring, additional policing, stricter sentencing and other, harsher measures are not worth the benefit. (Though we should continue debating whether marginally higher costs are worth marginally fewer deaths.) A sentry on every street corner and a government-monitored camera in every private room and hallway in America would significantly lower the homicide rate. But I wouldn’t make that trade-off.

holy cow, this dude is talented! i haven't seen lies this twisted flacked so confidently in a little while

goole, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link

I bet he read Ayn Rand.

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, balancing that against "We could reduce the speed limit to 10, like the Care Bears on the left would like!" is a deft stroke.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link

10 isn't enough, cut the speed limit to 0

The Understated Twee Hotel On A Mountain (silby), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

The Parmenidean Monad already took care of that.

Aimless, Monday, 26 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Now this is the kind of free speech the Supreme Court likes

RANCHO MIRAGE, Calif. — A network of conservative advocacy groups backed by Charles and David Koch aims to spend a staggering $889 million in advance of the next White House election, part of an expansive strategy to build on its 2014 victories that may involve jumping into the Republican primaries.

The massive financial goal was revealed to donors here Monday during an annual winter meeting hosted by Freedom Partners, the tax-exempt business lobby that serves as the hub of the Koch-backed political operation, according to an attendee. The amount is more than double the $407 million that 17 allied groups in the network raised during the 2012 campaign.

The figure comes close to the $1 billion that each of the two major parties’ presidential nominees are expected to spend in 2016, and it cements the network’s standing as one of the country’s most potent political forces. With its resources and capabilities — including a national field operation and cutting-edge technology — it is challenging the primacy of the official parties. In the 2012 elections, the Republican National Committee spent $404 million, while the Democratic National Committee shelled out $319 million.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/koch-backed-network-aims-to-spend-nearly-1-billion-on-2016-elections/2015/01/26/77a44654-a513-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html?hpid=z7

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:17 (nine years ago) link

their father built joseph stalin's oil pipelines, and now they're the primary donors to the GOP. why does the left not hammer that point home every day? imagine if the family who was the #1 donor to the democratic party was that close to stalin

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link

well, because the head of the Democratic Party is Stalin.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link

maybe they'd be able to fight fire with fire if that were so

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

pitts is tops

"In America, it has come to seem normal that a major news organization functions as the propaganda arm of an extremist political ideology, that it spews a constant stream of racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia, paranoia and manufactured outrage, and that it does so with brazen disregard for what is factual, what is right, what is fair, what is balanced — virtues that are supposed to be the sine qua non of anything calling itself a newsroom."

http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/01/26/fox-news/22364439/

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link

McCain keeps it real for his war criminal homie

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

just for posterity, the 9 democratic senators who voted to approve the keystone XL pipeline:

Bennet (D-CO)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Tester (D-MT)
Warner (D-VA)

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link

I don't see any surprises there

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link

yeah, they were all expected. first veto on a major issue in obama's tenure, coming up.

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

Mary Landrieu we miss ye

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

Manchin has guaranteed his place in the Evan Bayh Hall of Fame of Worthless Democratic Senators

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link

Protester Grabs Mic At Muslim Event: 'Islam Will Not Dominate Texas' (VIDEO)

goole, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link

Texan announces Islam unable to penetrate a bag of rocks.

Aimless, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link

good. slice and dice these scum

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-defense-sequester-20150129-story.html#page=1

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 31 January 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

The House member for my district is going to pass away one of these days or weeks, btw. He's at home under hospice care now. Brain tumor + stroke + another brain tumor is no way to go.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/mississippi-rep-alan-nunnelee-diagnosed-with-inoperable-brain-tumor/

WilliamC, Saturday, 31 January 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link

x-post. Obama's proposals to increase defense spending and domestic spending above sequestration will get rejected by the republicans and the White House knows that. But his indication of approval for more defense spending (for a country that already spends more than the next ten countries together) will just be taken as a sign of approval by Republicans to try to cut domestic spending, while increasing defense spending. So how is this good?

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

I guess the point is that it is good for Republican defense hawks and fiscal types to fight it out, but Obama encouraging the defense types does not seem that helpful to me.

According to the Washington Post:

. Although members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have warned of problems sustaining readiness, the military budget after adjusting for inflation is still in line with what it was in 2007, when the United States had much larger troop commitments in Afghanistan and Iraq.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link

nothing's getting done until 2017. i think he's trolling them, setting the terms for 2016. so now you want to increase defense spending and defense spending only, after having a fit about the deficit/debt? let's see you argue that it's good to do that but bad to increase domestic spending. rubio/walker/paul/christie/bush will flub that debate question every bit as much as they'll screw up gay marriage, abortion, and immigration

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

xp that does suggest that they wouldn't push for that anyway, which they would.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

I hope nothing gets done. There are a few Republicans talking "entitlement" reform and tax reform, which makes me nervous because of Obama's previous endorsement of chained cpi and a grand bargain.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

so far my reaction to the last few weeks has been, "What new majority?"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link

Nothing significant is going to pass. Obama's recent actions have clearly proven that he's a) going to accomplish as much as he can by exec order and b) setting the stage for the Dems for 2016. No big compromises that would hand the GOP poltical capital are going to happen.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link

When is the Supreme Court gonna hear that next Obamacare case? I see some political bloggers doing lots of 'what if' writing in regards to that.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

Ah, yes. The Obamacare case where, in order to buy the plaintiff's interpretation of the law's intent the justices must find that Congress knowingly sabotaged the entire rationale for the law, rather than that it committed a minor oversight in writing a bill that ran to many hundreds of pages.

Aimless, Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

somehow it's not wasteful government spending for congress to keep hope alive about repealing nationalized romneycare, but foodstamps for starving children we cannot afford

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 31 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

support the troops!

http://www.stripes.com/report-pay-and-benefits-panel-to-recommend-killing-20-year-retirement-1.326293

let's pay for the oil wars with the money of those we sent to fight it rather than the people that got rich from it!

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 31 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link


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