2015 American Politics Thread: The 114th Congress Is in the House!

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Not to understate police violence and the super confrontational nature of state power recently...

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 February 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link

http://www.npr.org/2015/02/17/386976209/have-the-rich-really-gotten-richer

Also check out this story from leftist radicals NPR on how the rich don't get social safety nets and are actually hurting more than you think.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 February 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link

and in the case of people in their 30s and 40s (and beyond) who find their wages stagnating or shrinking, people that old just don't do such things, right? xp

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

I marched in middle age. Against the then-immanent Iraq War. Knew it was futile in terms of stopping the war, but thought it worthwhile in terms of making anti-war sentiment visible.

Aimless, Thursday, 19 February 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

yeah, me too; i was being ol' sardonic Dr M

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link

Obama vetoed Keystone

Despite their majority in the Senate, Republicans are four votes short of being able to override Obama's veto.

They have vowed to attach language approving the pipeline in a spending bill or other legislation later in the year that the president would find difficult to reject.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/24/us-usa-keystone-idUSKBN0LS2FH20150224

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link

boehner's response:

"The president’s veto of the Keystone jobs bill is a national embarrassment," he said, adding: "The president is just too close to environmental extremists to stand up for America’s workers. He’s too invested in left-fringe politics to do what presidents are called on to do, and that’s put the national interest first."

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link

probably a lot easier move for Obama when we have an oil glut

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link

put the national interest first.

Canada's?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link

O did not really "veto Keystone." He may leave the final decision to the next prez.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

Now the environmentalists are "fringe" and "extremist". I swear these people at this point just want to choke us to death - environmentally and economically. Was a time - in the 70's - when even Republicans at least paid lip service to environmentalism. Promoting the corporate-introduced notion that environmentalism is "fringe" and "extreme" is even worse.

So is our environmental situation. Again, I swear these corporate assholes want the rest of us dead so they don't have to compete with us.

NO CLOO (I M Losted), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link

that's always been the plan

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link

This stuff about Obama *is* racist, and I'm sick and tired of Republicans being bullies about it. First Giuliani calls him a "communist" and far left, now Boehner says he's extreme and fringe.

No one calls them on it, but it's part of a history of suspicion of black politics as extreme, sentimental and irrational. The RW has for years libeled black politicians as too "far left" and " anti-colonial" in their literature.

People should call them racist - straight up, and not back down. Fuck these earth-killers.

NO CLOO (I M Losted), Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link

hey now it's not fair to play the race card!

do not GSI race card btw

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link

they call HRC far left too, and Bubba

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 February 2015 01:57 (nine years ago) link

out country is like a junior high run by sadistic 7th graders. it's a good thing taxes are low though

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 February 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link

they call HRC far left too, and Bubba

Exactly. Republicans would be saying exactly the same things about a white Democrat POTUS. No?

drash, Friday, 27 February 2015 05:49 (nine years ago) link

Not to the same extent. O gets extra hate because of race

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link

Washington Monthly thinking about 2018 midterms via Washington Post Dem Plum Line blog interview with Connecticut gov--

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2015_02/yes_its_time_to_think_about_20054389.php

PLUM LINE: Isn’t the problem that Democrats still don’t know how to deal with the midterm dropoff among their voters? What will stop that from happening in 2018, when all these big governors’ races are at stake?

MALLOY: I don’t think Democrats in most cases have come up with a strategy for that drop-off. We did in Connecticut. That’s why I’m still standing. We had a 56 percent participation rate. We contacted voters over an 18-month period of time. Republicans have done an exceptionally good job of making their voters feel like they’re part of a team. We need to replicate that. We need to make our voters feel like they are part of a team, that this is a continuing process, that every year there’s an election of importance. We need to retrain our voters.

So is that the answer? Better voter contact over a longer period of time? I dunno. It would be helpful, though, if Democrats also spent some time figuring out how to up their game with voters who do show up in midterms, like old folks, among whom the Silent Generation is being rapidly replaced by us Baby Boomers, who are a bit more open to voting Democratic.

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

As per the discussion above though, the context of who is actually going to be POTUS will be an enormous factor in 2018?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 February 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link

cpac y'all

https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/571429737266069505

goole, Friday, 27 February 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

no justice no peace!

Οὖτις, Friday, 27 February 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link

walker/palin 2016!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 February 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link

WASHINGTON — In a huge embarrassment for Republican leaders, the House voted down their bill Friday to avert a Homeland Security shutdown hours before the midnight deadline.

The House GOP plan was to pass a three-week stopgap bill to delay the immigration fight against President Barack Obama's executive actions until March 19.

But even that failed to pass, losing conservatives who considered it too much of a surrender to a lawless president as well as Democrats who demanded a yearlong DHS funding bill without any restrictions on Obama's immigration policies.

The vote was 203-224. Fifty-two Republicans voted against it, while 12 Democrats voted for it.

"This was a conscience vote about trying to uphold the Constitution," Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC), one of the "no" votes, told TPM. "If you're supposed to cave in because you don't want 30,000 people to lose their paychecks — how do you make a stand if you don't take a stand? ... It's the only option we have."

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/faaaaaaaail

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 February 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link

good URL

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 27 February 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

its the only option we have.. aside from, you know, governing

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 27 February 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

how do you make a stand if you don't take a stand

Οὖτις, Friday, 27 February 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link

i seem to recall those lyrics from the title song to a sly stallone film, can't remember which...

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 27 February 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link

long-forgotten Professor Griff line iirc

Οὖτις, Friday, 27 February 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link

Work of art!

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 February 2015 03:50 (nine years ago) link

he's a goddamned patriot

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 February 2015 03:52 (nine years ago) link

smooth crotch = perfect touch

Aimless, Saturday, 28 February 2015 03:54 (nine years ago) link

A 1 week extension. Will have to wait and see what brilliance the House will come up with by then

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 February 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

Sad.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 February 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

Gonna be a fabulous week with Bibi in town.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

matthew yglesias sees a constitutional crisis coming:

http://www.vox.com/2015/3/2/8120063/american-democracy-doomed

rolls together poli sci stuff about presidential (rather than parliamentary) systems, polarization, the "executivization" of governance and constitutional hardball

goole, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link

The best we can hope for is that when the crisis does come, Americans will have the wisdom to do for ourselves what we did in the past for Germany and Japan and put a better system in place.

Hmmmmm, not sure of the crisis coming or that these other systems are better

curmudgeon, Monday, 2 March 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link

I would love to have a parliamentary system

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 March 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link

The best we can hope for is that when the crisis does come, Americans will have the wisdom to do for ourselves what we did in the past for Germany and Japan and put a better system in place rising coastal waters swallow every major city.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link

nearer my God to theeeeeeeeee

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 March 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link

so HRC and those emails: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html

I can't figure out WHY she used personal email for four years and no one brought it to her attention. In Florida Rick Scott has conducted a lot of public business on private emails precisely so he can get around one of the country's fiercest public disclosure/sunshine laws and I'm mad as hell about it. As usual with the Clintons they choose mystery.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link

I can't figure out WHY she used personal email for four years and no one brought it to her attention. In Florida Rick Scott has conducted a lot of public business on private emails precisely so he can get around one of the country's fiercest public disclosure/sunshine laws and I'm mad as hell about it.

Your second sentence answers your first sentence.

drash, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link

iit's the "and no one brought it to her attention" that's left unanswered. you would hope that one of her handlers would realize it was a problem early on and tell her to quit it. but then again, other agency heads also used personal email over the last few years and endured minor scandals, and i'm sure others are still doing it today.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 14:08 (nine years ago) link

i am not an HRC fan by any stretch but she could have killed and grilled puppies and i'd still vote D, compared to what i'm hearing out of scott walker/JEB/ben carson/rand paul/ALEC/etc. if/when the yglesias crisis comes i hope that how outnumbered and old fox/gun/KKK nation is affects for the better whatever new set up

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link

if she killed and grilled puppies it would be a misdemeanor in that world

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link

the house finally gave up on the DHS funding/immigration thing.

coincidentally, this was announced just before netanyahu's address, which will probably dominate the news

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link


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