hey now it's not fair to play the race card!
do not GSI race card btw
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link
they call HRC far left too, and Bubba
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 February 2015 01:57 (nine years ago) link
out country is like a junior high run by sadistic 7th graders. it's a good thing taxes are low though
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 February 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link
Exactly. Republicans would be saying exactly the same things about a white Democrat POTUS. No?
― drash, Friday, 27 February 2015 05:49 (nine years ago) link
Not to the same extent. O gets extra hate because of race
― curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Washington Monthly thinking about 2018 midterms via Washington Post Dem Plum Line blog interview with Connecticut gov--
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2015_02/yes_its_time_to_think_about_20054389.php
PLUM LINE: Isn’t the problem that Democrats still don’t know how to deal with the midterm dropoff among their voters? What will stop that from happening in 2018, when all these big governors’ races are at stake?
MALLOY: I don’t think Democrats in most cases have come up with a strategy for that drop-off. We did in Connecticut. That’s why I’m still standing. We had a 56 percent participation rate. We contacted voters over an 18-month period of time. Republicans have done an exceptionally good job of making their voters feel like they’re part of a team. We need to replicate that. We need to make our voters feel like they are part of a team, that this is a continuing process, that every year there’s an election of importance. We need to retrain our voters.
So is that the answer? Better voter contact over a longer period of time? I dunno. It would be helpful, though, if Democrats also spent some time figuring out how to up their game with voters who do show up in midterms, like old folks, among whom the Silent Generation is being rapidly replaced by us Baby Boomers, who are a bit more open to voting Democratic.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
As per the discussion above though, the context of who is actually going to be POTUS will be an enormous factor in 2018?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 February 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
cpac y'all
https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/571429737266069505
― goole, Friday, 27 February 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
no justice no peace!
― Οὖτις, Friday, 27 February 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
walker/palin 2016!
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 February 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link
WASHINGTON — In a huge embarrassment for Republican leaders, the House voted down their bill Friday to avert a Homeland Security shutdown hours before the midnight deadline.The House GOP plan was to pass a three-week stopgap bill to delay the immigration fight against President Barack Obama's executive actions until March 19.But even that failed to pass, losing conservatives who considered it too much of a surrender to a lawless president as well as Democrats who demanded a yearlong DHS funding bill without any restrictions on Obama's immigration policies.The vote was 203-224. Fifty-two Republicans voted against it, while 12 Democrats voted for it."This was a conscience vote about trying to uphold the Constitution," Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC), one of the "no" votes, told TPM. "If you're supposed to cave in because you don't want 30,000 people to lose their paychecks — how do you make a stand if you don't take a stand? ... It's the only option we have."
The House GOP plan was to pass a three-week stopgap bill to delay the immigration fight against President Barack Obama's executive actions until March 19.
But even that failed to pass, losing conservatives who considered it too much of a surrender to a lawless president as well as Democrats who demanded a yearlong DHS funding bill without any restrictions on Obama's immigration policies.
The vote was 203-224. Fifty-two Republicans voted against it, while 12 Democrats voted for it.
"This was a conscience vote about trying to uphold the Constitution," Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC), one of the "no" votes, told TPM. "If you're supposed to cave in because you don't want 30,000 people to lose their paychecks — how do you make a stand if you don't take a stand? ... It's the only option we have."
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolhttp://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/faaaaaaaail
― Karl Malone, Friday, 27 February 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link
good URL
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 27 February 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
its the only option we have.. aside from, you know, governing
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 27 February 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
how do you make a stand if you don't take a stand
― Οὖτις, Friday, 27 February 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link
i seem to recall those lyrics from the title song to a sly stallone film, can't remember which...
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 27 February 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
long-forgotten Professor Griff line iirc
― Οὖτις, Friday, 27 February 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link
http://33.media.tumblr.com/f316d7d2917fe0b9a5a367f66cf6c06e/tumblr_nkgpt1KBMZ1qdmmiqo1_500.gif
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 February 2015 03:33 (nine years ago) link
Work of art!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 February 2015 03:50 (nine years ago) link
he's a goddamned patriot
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 February 2015 03:52 (nine years ago) link
smooth crotch = perfect touch
― Aimless, Saturday, 28 February 2015 03:54 (nine years ago) link
A 1 week extension. Will have to wait and see what brilliance the House will come up with by then
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 February 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
data collection forevah
http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/nsa-spying-wins-another-rubber-stamp-20150227
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 February 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
Sad.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 February 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
gonna miss ya: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/senator-barbara-mikulski-of-maryland-to-retire.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 March 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
Gonna be a fabulous week with Bibi in town.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
matthew yglesias sees a constitutional crisis coming:
http://www.vox.com/2015/3/2/8120063/american-democracy-doomed
rolls together poli sci stuff about presidential (rather than parliamentary) systems, polarization, the "executivization" of governance and constitutional hardball
― goole, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
The best we can hope for is that when the crisis does come, Americans will have the wisdom to do for ourselves what we did in the past for Germany and Japan and put a better system in place.
Hmmmmm, not sure of the crisis coming or that these other systems are better
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 March 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
I would love to have a parliamentary system
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 March 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
The best we can hope for is that when the crisis does come, Americans will have the wisdom to do for ourselves what we did in the past for Germany and Japan and put a better system in place rising coastal waters swallow every major city.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
nearer my God to theeeeeeeeee
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 March 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
so HRC and those emails: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us/politics/hillary-clintons-use-of-private-email-at-state-department-raises-flags.html
I can't figure out WHY she used personal email for four years and no one brought it to her attention. In Florida Rick Scott has conducted a lot of public business on private emails precisely so he can get around one of the country's fiercest public disclosure/sunshine laws and I'm mad as hell about it. As usual with the Clintons they choose mystery.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link
I can't figure out WHY she used personal email for four years and no one brought it to her attention. In Florida Rick Scott has conducted a lot of public business on private emails precisely so he can get around one of the country's fiercest public disclosure/sunshine laws and I'm mad as hell about it.
Your second sentence answers your first sentence.
― drash, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
iit's the "and no one brought it to her attention" that's left unanswered. you would hope that one of her handlers would realize it was a problem early on and tell her to quit it. but then again, other agency heads also used personal email over the last few years and endured minor scandals, and i'm sure others are still doing it today.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 14:08 (nine years ago) link
i am not an HRC fan by any stretch but she could have killed and grilled puppies and i'd still vote D, compared to what i'm hearing out of scott walker/JEB/ben carson/rand paul/ALEC/etc. if/when the yglesias crisis comes i hope that how outnumbered and old fox/gun/KKK nation is affects for the better whatever new set up
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
if she killed and grilled puppies it would be a misdemeanor in that world
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
the house finally gave up on the DHS funding/immigration thing.
coincidentally, this was announced just before netanyahu's address, which will probably dominate the news
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
aren't they smart
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
tbh even if it was a slow news day, otherwise, i don't have a good feel for how much people care about the GOP/DHS/immigration shutdown thing. the other day I was trying to explain it to someone who hadn't heard anything about it, and unless you're the author of a book on communicating succinctly, it's nearly impossible to explain in a concise manner. and even after the explanation, the person didn't really care at all. it's hard to get a good read of whether anyone cares about this shit at all. the results of the most recent mid-terms suggest that not many people do.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
a handy list:
* April 2011: House Republicans threaten a government shutdown unless Democrats accept GOP demands on spending cuts. * July 2011: Republicans create the first-ever debt-ceiling crisis, threatening to default on the nation’s debts unless Democrats accept GOP demands on spending cuts. * September 2011: Republicans threaten another shutdown. * April 2012: Republicans threaten another shutdown. * December 2012: Republicans spend months refusing to negotiate in the lead up to the so-called “fiscal cliff.” * January 2013: Republicans raise the specter of another debt-ceiling crisis. * September 2013: Republicans threaten another shutdown. * October 2013: Republicans actually shut down the government. * February 2014: Republicans raise the specter of another debt-ceiling crisis. * December 2014: Republicans threaten another shutdown. * February 2015: Republicans threaten a Department of Homeland Security shutdown.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 5 March 2015 04:07 (nine years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/05/the_right_has_fked_up_minds_meet_the_researcher_who_terrifies_gop_congress/
does anyone read much in this vein of "political psychology"? this was a very interesting interview, but my inclination is to think that the types of analyses the interviewee advocates underplay the role of clannishness or group affinity in determining political affiliation.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 6 March 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
maybe this has been discussed on (an)other thread(s)
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 6 March 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
it's hard not to conclude -- even being generous -- that "conservatives" are a bit touched
case in point
http://news.yahoo.com/conservative-case-against-enforcing-immigration-law-120000524.html
"Removing all 11.2 million undocumented immigrants, both forcibly and through Mitt Romney's infamous "self-deportation" policy, would take about 20 years and cost the government between $400 billion and $600 billion. The impact on the economy would be even larger, according to the study: Real GDP would drop by nearly $1.6 trillion and the policy would shave 5.7 percent off economic growth."
and still they won't shut the fuck about it
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 6 March 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
that's not really what the interview is about, though -- it's a misleading headline, because the interviewee pointedly disclaims that he's talking about social pathology.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 6 March 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
although i think it might be relevant insofar as maybe "conservatism" isn't about the sort of quasi-libertarian principles its exponents claim it is about.
nothing much on ile about John Jost, from that Salon article.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 6 March 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
the Tom Schweich suicide story is fucked up on so many levels.
― Karl Malone, Friday, 6 March 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
http://www.mediaite.com/online/joe-biden-on-ben-carsons-gay-choice-comments-i-mean-jesus-god/
might as well enjoy this
― goole, Friday, 6 March 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
"Removing all 11.2 million undocumented immigrants, both forcibly and through Mitt Romney's infamous "self-deportation" policy, would take about 20 years and cost the government between $400 billion and $600 billion. The impact on the economy would be even larger, according to the study: Real GDP would drop by nearly $1.6 trillion and the policy would shave 5.7 percent off economic growth."and still they won't shut the fuck about it
they'd probably spout some bullshit about the massive savings generated by these mooching freeloaders being deported or all that 1.6 trillion being redistributed to all the hard working white people who will take the jobs in the fast food restaurants, janitorial services, picking produce in fields and meat processing plants that are vacated........
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 6 March 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
it's Crooked Dem Fucker Indictment time
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/06/391255700/source-justice-department-prepares-to-charge-sen-menendez-with-corruption
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
heeeyyy sup
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/mark-dayton-minnesota-governor-profile-scott-walker
turns out a depressed loser who doesn't want anything can't be cowed and can't be hurt (that's always been my read on the guy) (helps to be rich as shit to begin with too)
― goole, Friday, 6 March 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link