Best Actress 1987

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The major reason why I called the ending of Broadcast News "happy" is that the entire film sets up the idea that Hurt's character represents the cheapening of news and a lowering of standards making him emblematic of a profound threat to the integrity of the institution. Then, in the finale, we hear briefly that he has been named as the network news anchor and has ascended to the pinnacle of the profession, but hey! it's not so bad, really, because he will leave all editorial decisions to the ultra-committed Hunter character, so we are all in good hands and all those worries were totally overblown.

Giant Purple Wakerobin (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link

Fatal Attraction is an evil, silly piece of shit, full stop.

I saw Bill Forsyth do a Q&A after Housekeeping a few years ago and he said he made the film so more people would read the book.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link

the only Oscar Glenn Close deserved was for Dangerous Liasions.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 01:17 (nine years ago) link

a Q. for shit cinema buffs:

was Fatal Attraction the first non-monster, non-supernatural movie with the now obligatory "surprise" resurrection of the villain at the end? Back then it was indeed a surprise --- I busted out laughing when Close blasts out of the tub for one last assault after she should have been brain dead with water filled lungs.

This horrible bit started somewhere and I'm wondering if this was its debut in a like you know "realistic" movie.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:15 (nine years ago) link

Spoiler Alert, but...

Diabolique

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 06:29 (nine years ago) link

It was the first time a killer had Close's hair.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 10:57 (nine years ago) link

everyone knows the final sequence was shot after a test screening with the original ending (Close quietly commits suicide), right? where the cards said KILL THE BITCH. (it was Morning In America)

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 11:56 (nine years ago) link

I saw Anna. I don't think it was bad.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 11:56 (nine years ago) link

Oh, I forgot about one more test screening story, and forgot that I had seen Diabolique too --- that was a great movie. I think they did a bit more work to bring that off as plausible in Diabolique, right? They don't even bother in Fatal Attraction. It's a movie, schmuck.

Anyway, I'll take the "everyone" remark seriously. I stick a toe in the waters of the film threads here & there on ILX, the water is always chilly.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

it was a question.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

Oscar-related threads are about as P*PULIST as film threads get, cuz who with half a brain gives a flying fucking shit?

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

In the event that "It's a movie, schmuck" was misinterpreted, I meant that as a summation of what the people making Fatal Attraction would say if you pointed out how stupid the ending is. It's not my attitude.

This thread hasn't actually been a stupid discussion. 1987 Oscars seem pretty arcane to me, like discussing Mesopotamian pottery shards only less relevant to our world. Hold your head high.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

morbs is otm regarding fatal attraction, which i think is one of the most vile movies ever made

diabolique is awesome, tho

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

I never minded Cher winning for Moonstruck but I forget how assured how she is in her reaction shots. I laughed every other moment.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 00:13 (one month ago) link

Stéphane Audran in Babette's Feast

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 00:26 (one month ago) link

Who else apart from me thinks the film of HOUSEKEEPING was better than the book?

Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 16:37 (one month ago) link

Maybe. I haven't read the book in years. She did write several books I prefer.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 16:57 (one month ago) link

I haven't read the book, but I love the film, possibly the best thing he's done, not to mention Lahti's best performance. It's too bad Sony treated it so poorly - famously one of David Puttnam's productions when he ran Columbia, and therefore one of the films the succeeding regime dumped in theaters with minimal promotion when he was pushed out.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:19 (one month ago) link

("he" being Bill Forsyth)

birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:20 (one month ago) link

messed that up - I mean "possibly the best thing Bill Forsyth's done"

birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 21:21 (one month ago) link

I loved the book Housekeeping by Marilynne Robinson. It was so strange and magical and it was told from a 'transparent eyeball' point of view (Ralph Waldo Emerson's term as a reference to nature taking over the senses). I haven't seen the film yet but I can't imagine it is better than the novel

1987 also included Yimou Zhang's Red Sorghum, which featured a great debut performance by Gong Li

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:36 (one month ago) link

The film got marketed as a quirky sitcom: I can still see the late '80s VHS box with Lahti drinking tea while she's knee deep in water.

Dan, you should watch it. It's not as limpid as the book, but Lahti's fantastic.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:42 (one month ago) link

I will

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 23:45 (one month ago) link

but I can't imagine it will be anything like the book, which was so eerie and feral

Dan S, Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:07 (four weeks ago) link

Forget the book!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:09 (four weeks ago) link

The film is its own kind of eerie.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:09 (four weeks ago) link


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