Kinda sad that 60 votes is the new threshold in the senate. Do they teach this shit in school now or what
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 23 May 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
new? it's been the norm for the past 7 years
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Saturday, 23 May 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
Hence they should be teaching it in school amirite
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 23 May 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
as GG says, may the Senate stay paralyzed
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nsa-tracking-program-20150523-story.html#page=1
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 May 2015 08:09 (nine years ago) link
this belongs here:
looks like Hastert's jail-boundhttp://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Ex-US-Speaker-Hastert-indicted-on-bank-related-6292720.php
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
sounds like he was being blackmailed? over what one can only guess
Mr. Hastert, 73, a longtime Republican leader who served as speaker from 1999 until 2007 and now works as a lobbyist in Washington, was providing money to an unnamed person in order to “compensate for and conceal his prior misconduct” against that person, according to a federal indictment issued by the United States attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link
sounds like hush money IMO, but it's a fine line
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 28 May 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link
Washington Post re it:
The indictment did not spell out the exact nature of the “prior misconduct” by Hastert, but it noted that before entering state and federal politics in 1981, Hastert served for more than a decade as a teacher and wrestling coach at Yorkville High School in Illinois. In 2010, confronted about the “prior misconduct,” the former speaker agreed to pay $3.5 million to the person “to compensate for and conceal his prior misconduct against Individual A,” prosecutors alleged. That person, whose identity was shielded by prosecutors, has known Hastert most of his or her life, growing up in Yorkville, the city next to Hastert’s home town of Plano, in the exurbs west of Chicago. Prosecutors said the actions “occurred years earlier” than the 2010 meeting that sparked the payments.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-house-speaker-dennis-hastert-indicted-over-alleged-secret-payments/2015/05/29/dad237be-05f7-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html?hpid=z1
― curmudgeon, Friday, 29 May 2015 14:06 (nine years ago) link
Sounds creepy
― curmudgeon, Friday, 29 May 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-28/obama-trade-bill-seen-gaining-enough-support-for-final-passage
Hopefully this won't be true
― curmudgeon, Friday, 29 May 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link
From some Fox site:
Hastert isn't the only recent House speaker to face ethics troubles. Former House Speaker Jim Wright, D-Texas, resigned under a cloud of conflict in 1989 after a very short speakership. Wright, who died May 6, was investigated by the House Ethics Committee over speaking fees and purchases of his book, becoming the first speaker to resign due to a scandal.
Yeah, close to 30 years ago is not really recent, but good point, he was a democrat. Bipartisan!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
the man leading the insurgence against Wright? Newt Gingrich.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
Aha!
Indicted former House Speaker Dennis Hastert was paying an individual from his past to conceal sexual misconduct, two federal law enforcement officials said Friday.
One of the officials, who would not speak publicly about the federal charges in Chicago, said “Individual A,” as the person is described in Thursday’s federal indictment, was a man and that the alleged misconduct was unrelated to Hastert’s tenure in Congress. The actions date to Hastert’s time as a Yorkville, Ill., high school wrestling coach and teacher, the official said.
“It goes back a long way, back to then,” the source said. “It has nothing to do with public corruption or a corruption scandal. Or to his time in office.” Thursday’s indictment described the misconduct “against Individual A” as having “occurred years earlier.”
Asked why Hastert was making the payments, the official said it was to conceal Hastert’s past relationship with the male. “It was sex,’’ the source said. The other official confirmed that the misconduct involved sexual abuse.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
i remember the wrestling factoid, and as with all gray Repugs, this possibility crossed my mind.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
I assumed it was this or a lovechild tbh
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
I saw the love child speculation but then I got another look at his photo.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
haha
man was there *anybody* on the GOP "impeach Clinton" team that wasn't hiding some sex scandal of their own?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
everyone gets into politics (or wrestling) for the tail.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
even Barbara Mikulski?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
http://maxrust.net/HASTERT_TIMELINE/WRESTLING.JPG
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
state champs!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/images/daily/hastert2_1976.jpg
― Οὖτις, Friday, May 29, 2015 3:24 PM
even Hillary was a secret lesbian
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
so how is this not blackmail anyway
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
i know i shdnt be shocked but this is honestly kind of shocking wow
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
I'm kinda shocked that this is some decades-spanning shit
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
huge amounts of money too
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/here-is-a-creepy-phone-call-dennis-hastert-once-got-on-c-spa
is he running for president yet
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
wow that CSPAN call I wonder if Denny started shitting bricks right there
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
all Coach "Handsy" Hastert talk goes here!
would be surprised if there's just one victim tbh. these types of dudes are never one-and-done.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
yeah already talk of another one
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
I'm constantly amazed at the kind of memory people have for this kind of weird shit:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/243418-dennis-hastert's-weird-2014-CSPAN-call
I wouldn't have thought twice about that call; and it might wind up being unrelated; but that it even stuck in someone's head long enough for cspan to have created a page for it and for people to bring it up now is ... i don't know how much time people have to obsess on this kind of ephemera.
― akm, Friday, May 29, 2015 8:51 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also that caller sounds kind of young to have been abused by Hastert in the 60's but maybe he's turned into some kind of man-child, like a Chuck and Buck thing.
― akm, Friday, May 29, 2015 8:52 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Denny and Benny
― akm, Friday, May 29, 2015 8:53 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'll stop now.
― akm, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
well, look at those strapping Midwestern grapplers. i don't think Plato wd've done any different. xp
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
sorry for posting abt this on the presidential candidate thread.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
there was a drivers ed teacher from my school who ended up going to prison after teaching for 25 years and every single girl at school was like that guy is creepy and up to no good
I'm sure we all have stories like this
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
soccer coach "started" dating a girl from the team right after she graduated
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
mine got caught, fled the state, was lured back by the victim, arrested and sent to trial, convicted and sent to prison, got out and ... got a teaching post in the midwest
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
where I think he still is to this day, haven't checked in awhile
what how is that possible
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
yup here he is (hmm no mention of it in his CV, how odd):http://www.nwc.edu/sites/music/faculty-staff/person.html?id=6d76bd1a-5da9-4020-affe-84913e9d2c41
stay away, young ladies!
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
I can only assume that a) WY has extremely lax laws in this regard and b) since he's working with people who are over 18 somehow it's all... okay?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
WY is not the midwest FWIW
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
oh fine
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
that guy looks like a fucking creep also SAX
― akm, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
no one (including my dad, who was on the teaching staff with him) was surprised when he got arrested - rumors and malicious jokes had swirled around him for years, female classmates would joke about not wanting to be left alone w him etc.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
which is how it usually is with these things, kids tell other kids and stuff becomes kind of an open secret
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
the morality teacher at my catholic high school got busted banging a student. he told her to get an abortion.
he was also married to a v attractive lady and had a baby. what a moran.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 29 May 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
My neighbor got arrested and served some time for having a sexual encounter with one of his 16 year old students. I've seen his ex-wife at the post office and the deli.
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 30 May 2015 02:19 (nine years ago) link
kind of weird to see woody allen apologist shakey mo going in on this teacher
― een, Sunday, 31 May 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/05/30/rand-paul-vows-to-force-expiration-of-patriot-act/?hpid=z4
Senate in session on a Sunday
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 31 May 2015 13:13 (nine years ago) link