well, that was an incoherent post
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
fwiw rehm has already come out on the "clearly this is false, i'm **glad** i could help put this **rumor** to **rest**" front
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 June 2015 03:46 (nine years ago) link
"i'm gley-ahhhd i could heyyulp put this roomher to rayust"
Now, now, Rehm has a health condition that makes her speak like that. But yea, she never researches that well, and has now apologized for this line of questioning saying she "read it on Facebook."
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:01 (nine years ago) link
House votes Friday on Trade Promotion Authority
A piece on the business front of this morning’s New York Times runs down some of the language being inserted into the bill to get Republican votes, including anti-immigration language from Iowa Rep. Steve King. A Huffington Post item getting circulated widely among progressives says that the customs enforcement bill being voted on Friday includes language that would excuse the U.S. from any trade deal obligations to address climate change. Unions are threatening to back primary challengers against members who cross them on this vote, and they’re running ads in swing districts on the issue. These stories make it harder to sell the base on the necessity of siding with the president.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:02 (nine years ago) link
Now, now, Rehm has a health condition that makes her speak like that.
! is that so, i had no idea
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 June 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
http://obamatrade.com/
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 June 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
cmooooooon wingnuts lets go
Trump is always so angry
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
ugh god having actually looked at that site i feel gross now
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 June 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
Trump rubbed his sweaty forehead all over you
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
From Wikipedia: Rehm suffers from spasmodic dysphonia, a neurological condition that affects the quality of her voice.
― Aimless, Thursday, 11 June 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
dear god
http://gawker.com/ap-every-single-federal-employees-social-security-numb-1710708467
― goole, Thursday, 11 June 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
oof
sorry Karl :(
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
yeah no doubt, what a horrible thing
happened a couple days ago but with each followup it just gets worse
― goole, Thursday, 11 June 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
what's funny is that everything I've learned from this has come from the media and/or my union
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 June 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
learned about this, i mean.
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 June 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
The letter will come in the mail weeks from now. Just the paper and postage for those millions of letters will be substantial.
― Aimless, Thursday, 11 June 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link
this is p gross as a stunt: http://news.yahoo.com/capitol-hill-buzz-gop-sen-graham-offers-abortion-180104514--election.html
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link
lol url a little misleading there
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link
man he really wants to be in the top ten so he can debate i guess
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 June 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
there's no way he gets through this without getting outed, right? I mean, that's the logical endpoint I sorta wonder if that's his secret/unconscious goal
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link
Shakey, you wanted more evidence of Scott Walker's malfeasance?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/scott-walker-wisconsin-removing-tenure-law
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2015 13:33 (nine years ago) link
hey guys
have you called your congress lizards to tell them to vote against fast track yet?
the vote is today
O is so desperate he's at the capitol RIGHT NOW briefing the caucus
call if you can
https://www.stopfasttrack.com/
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
hoos is anyone keeping a record of who has indicated that they're voting yes?
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link
yeah one sec
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link
all my lists are outdated at this point but the undecideds are pretty slim in the house rn, i'm trying to find a list i saw The Hill update with this morning
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link
here we go
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/trade/241114-whip-list-dems-bucking-obama-on-trade
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link
we've got the right number of GOP with us, these are the publicly undecided Dems
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Rep. Alma Adams (N.C.)
Rep. Karen Bass (Calif.)
Rep. Joyce Beatty (Ohio)
Rep. Julia Brownley (Calif.)
Rep. Kathy Castor (Fla.) — Castor backed trio of trade deals with South Korea, Panama and Colombia in 2011.
Rep. Joaquin Castro (Texas) — Some have speculated Castro could be Hillary Clinton's running mate in 2016.
Rep. James Clyburn (S.C.) — Clyburn is the No. 3-ranked House Democrat and influential lawmaker in the Congressional Black Caucus.
Rep. Steve Cohen (Tenn.)
Rep. Jim Cooper (Tenn.) — Cooper signed a letter offering support for fast-track but has yet to endorse the deal.
Rep. Jim Costa (Calif.) — “If the Senate votes out a package this week, I hope we’ll have an opportunity to look at that, and, yes, I would like to be in a position to vote for it,” he told Politico in an interview in May, but has since expressed reservations.
Rep. Susan Davis (Calif.) — Voted for fast-track in 2002.
Rep. Anna Eshoo (Calif.) — Ally of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) who backed two of the three trade deals in 2011.
Rep. Bill Foster (Ill.)
Rep. Al Green (Texas)
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa (Texas) — Voted for fast-track in 2002 and supported two of the three trade deals passed in 2011.
Rep. Steny Hoyer (Md.) — "I've not yet made a decision on what I'm going to do. There's still a bit of time to go and developments to occur," the House minority whip told Politico. Hoyer backed all three trade deals in 2011, but opposed fast-track in 2002.
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas)
Rep. Robin Kelly (Ill.)
Rep. Zoe Lofgren (Calif.) — Lofgren told The Hill she is “still looking at” the emerging TPP agreement. “It's so secret that I have not yet been able to read it all. You go down to the basement, it's only opened occasionally,” she said. “So it takes a long time. I mean, I went through a quarter of a section and it took me two hours. And so I'm not going to vote for something I haven't read. … If I can't read it, I can't vote for it. But I'm trying to get it read."
Rep. Doris Matsui (Calif.) — Key swing vote on fast-track. The congresswoman's late husband, Rep. Bob Matsui (D-Calif.), backed some trade deals.
Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass.) — Every other member of the Massachusetts congressional delegation is against fast-track. Moulton defeated then-Rep. John Tierney (D-Mass.) in the primary last year.
Rep. Beto O’Rourke (Texas) — Obama wants his vote. The president was recently interviewed on trade in O'Rourke's district. Meanwhile, anti-fast-track activists have also targeted O'Rourke.
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) — The House minority leader not taken a public position though some of her close allies are firmly against fast-track. She said that Republicans need to come up with 200 votes for fast-track.
Rep. Ed Perlmutter (Colo.)
Rep. Scott Peters (Calif.) — Labor groups threatened to spend $1 million against Peters’ reelection bid if the swing-district Democrat votes for the trade bill, Politico reported. Peters is a top GOP target in 2016.
Rep. Collin Peterson (Minn.) — Centrist Democrat backed two of the three trade deals in 2011.
Rep. David Price (N.C.) — "I'm genuinely conflicted," Price told The Hill. Obama has reached out to Price.
Rep. Terri Sewell (Ala.) — Supported two of the three trade deals in 2011. Sewell is seeking provisions to protect steel workers.
Rep. Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.)
Rep. Marc Veasey (Texas)
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.) — DNC chairwoman voted for all three 2011 trade deals.
Rep. Maxine Waters (Calif.)
Rep. Frederica Wilson (Fla.)
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
wow just overheard that in a meeting with house dem caucus this morning Obama says "if you get primary challenged over this, i'm coming to your district to campaign for you"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link
thx, figured my rep (fattah) would be a 'no,' but wanted to double check
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link
maybe i'm misreading the temp of this thing but i can't imagine anyone getting primaried over it
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
diff members already being threatened by moveon, sierra club, blue green alliance--ami bera, jared polis, moveon even giving wyden side eye with big ad buys
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
The White House, recognizing the precarious position the package is in, dispatched top officials to Capitol Hill Thursday to meet with Democrats, and Obama himself made a surprise appearance at Thursday night's annual congressional baseball game. Arriving as Democratic and Republican lawmakers faced off at Nationals Park, Obama was greeted with chants of "TPA! TPA!" from the GOP side — the acronym for the Trade Promotion Authority fast track bill.
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
someone find that footage and play it in slow motion
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Mr. Obama has rarely employed the kind of face-to-face lobbying and arm-twisting of lawmakers that previous presidents have found to be effective. But the fight for authority to negotiate new trade deals has been different, with Mr. Obama repeatedly urging lawmakers in both parties to support him.
lol imagine if he had this much get-up-and-go during the rest of his administration
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
I expect Pelosi isn't gonna break with Obama if she doesn't have to, but I'm encouraged by the fact that she's not whipping the caucus up for a yea vote
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
honestly I dunno why O thinks this is so important
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
keep the cash comin' for the ppl building his library
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
xpost some people on digby and elsewhere have been speculating that it has to do with helping the U.S. military maintain control of the Strait of Malacca (world's third biggest shipping lane), but who knows
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
i think the president has a much higher opinion of his negotiating skills than others, maybe he's thrilled about what the US is getting out of TPP? also, i think he has a higher opinion about how well he represents the interests of the 'common man,' than maybe most working class ppl.
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
feel free to tear this apart, but this is the strait of malacca thing i was referencing:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/05/more-than-meets-eye-by-bloggersrus.html
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
huh interesting
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
It’s a bottleneck, a chokepoint, and if Malaysia is “driven into the arms of China” then China can close those Straits to shipping how, when, and as they please.
this seems awfully presumptuous
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
haha why would China do that anyway. "We're not shipping you anymore products!" "huh OK, have fun going broke"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
otoh, it's a nice theory that ties together TPP w/ Iran negotiations as O's biggest a) trade + b) foreign policy priorities
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
as i anticipated:
He's simply cashing out, feathering his future nest, foaming his own landing, getting his meal ticket punched, setting the table for the feast of his 20 years of life — his post-electoral, Obama Global Initiative legacy-tour life. You can't ride the corporate stratospheric rails to Davos if corporate jet owners don't like you.
tsk Mordy, always believing the best of everypimpone.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
idk the "personal gain" angle seems p weak in this instance
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
xpostsyeah, it also starts to veer into conspiracy theory at some point.
but i do think there must be something more to it than "obama wants rich people to like him so that he can bank after the presidency." obama is already going to make a ton of money after the presidency. it seems odd for him to burn bridges and turn his entire party against him just because he wants to have a net worth of $30 million rather than $20 million
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
that's dumb. being an ex-POTUS will guarantee him wealth-producing connections & expensive speaking fees for life whether or not he passes this.
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link