like, no corporate jet owner is going to have his mind changed by this bill getting passed, sorry
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:48 (ten years ago)
or what Mordy said
so that leaves...THE STRAIT OF MALACCA
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:50 (ten years ago)
who knows
it's so shitty, though, to witness the spectacle of the POTUS trying to maneuver around everyone in his party so that he can please the chamber of commerce and republicans
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:51 (ten years ago)
obama is a pretty big neoliberal right? i think he sincerely believes in the power of free trade, so it's not crazy to think he really believes in TPP as a huge stimulus to the world and US economy.
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:51 (ten years ago)
trade agreements like this are good for one particular sector of the US economy and p shitty for every other sector, as has been borne out since the 90s
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:54 (ten years ago)
i would remind you that some of the 0.0001% supported Romney last time simply bcz Obama wasn't verbally enthusiastic enough about the taste of their dicks. you underestimate his venality, i think.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:57 (ten years ago)
Arriving as Democratic and Republican lawmakers faced off at Nationals Park, Obama was greeted with chants of "TPA! TPA!" from the GOP side — the acronym for the Trade Promotion Authority fast track bill.
i was at this game and the same drunk interns chanting TPA were begging us to put our banner down so they could get their insta of the president
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:59 (ten years ago)
obama is a pretty big neoliberal right? i think he sincerely believes in the power of free trade, so it's not crazy to think he really believes in TPP as a huge stimulus to the world and US economy.― Mordy, Friday, June 12, 2015 3:51 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mordy, Friday, June 12, 2015 3:51 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ding ding ding
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:01 (ten years ago)
at the least, i think--given his rhetoric about tpp opponents 'living in the past'--he believes he's acknowledging the realities of globalization and trying to make trade work accordingly. i think he's wrong that those realities are inevitable.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:04 (ten years ago)
yeah, all this time it should be clear that he's an american consensus true believer
anyway, do we have any kansan ilxors? this shit is like watching wile e coyote realize the tunnel entrance is a painted rock
http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article23744494.html
― goole, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:12 (ten years ago)
x-post--I emailed my Virginia Dem rep re my opposition to TPP, and he emailed me back his cliched business Democrat/small business owner reasons for supporting it, as well as mentioning that he had to stand with the President.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:19 (ten years ago)
^ that's exactly the response I'd get from my rep (Kurt Schraeder D-OR).
(shakes fist)
― Aimless, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:25 (ten years ago)
the other thing about that digny piece is it only is trying to explain why he's unwilling to allow the anti-slavary language to pass (bc it wouldn't let malaysia in). obv that particular provision wouldn't apply to most of the other potential partners
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/obama-trade-vote-meeting-with-democrats-118937.html#ixzz3criYblGc
The Hill trip followed another scrambled appearance Thursday night to the annual Congressional baseball game at Nationals Park. He didn’t mention trade, but the crowd of lawmakers and staffers knew that that’s what his unscheduled visit was about. Republicans, who generally support the legislation, greeted the president with cheers using the bill’s acronym — “TPA, TPA!”
― goole, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:39 (ten years ago)
http://i60.tinypic.com/9az7yh.png
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:44 (ten years ago)
rep gregory meeks (D-NY) on floor right now explicitly stating that if we don't pass a comprehensive trade bill, china will
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:46 (ten years ago)
what channel is PRC-SPAN on, anyway
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 June 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)
this is showing on CPN1H for me - channel 1217
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:51 (ten years ago)
Ted Cruz: An Error Occurred
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:52 (ten years ago)
reps are really angry about the bill not addressing currency manipulation
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:57 (ten years ago)
took me a few seconds to remember where i recognized paul ryan's babyface from
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:58 (ten years ago)
pelosi sounds like she's a 'no' vote?
― Mordy, Friday, 12 June 2015 17:14 (ten years ago)
FAIL
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 17:50 (ten years ago)
Pretty sure Obama is pushing hard for this because the sole purpose of government these days is to make corporations richer and lock down their precious intellectual property for as long as humanly possible?
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 June 2015 17:50 (ten years ago)
never let me down, Nan:
“I will be voting to slow down fast-track,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said on the floor moments before the vote, after keeping her intentions private for months. “Today we have an opportunity to slow down. Whatever the deal is with other countries, we want a better deal for American workers.”
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 17:51 (ten years ago)
grats hoos
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:02 (ten years ago)
let's all sing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BYyDusJYJo
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:16 (ten years ago)
thx guys we were watching c-span and when pelosi went up to speak, having been equivocating all week & knowing she was gonna bellwether, we all held our breath; when she started in on "this vote on TPA--or Fast Track, let's call it what it is--is moving too fast for us to get a better deal for American workers"
and my boss yelled WHERE'S THE CHAMPAGNE
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:18 (ten years ago)
would drink w/ u guys
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:30 (ten years ago)
putting a hoos on the case was their shrewdest move
― Aimless, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:34 (ten years ago)
good lookin out hoos
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:37 (ten years ago)
You guys can do better than champagne!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:42 (ten years ago)
Yay. Good job
― curmudgeon, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:43 (ten years ago)
Gimlets for everyone! Mixed by Robert Bork!
http://images.politico.com/global/2012/12/19/121219_robert_bork_ap_328.jpg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:43 (ten years ago)
Also: yet another victory for Speaker Boehner, who joins the ranks of Rayburn and Clay.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:56 (ten years ago)
now HilRod could come out against this at her rally tomw -- a "bold move"
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 June 2015 19:03 (ten years ago)
Whew. Now you can vote for her!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2015 19:06 (ten years ago)
lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 19:07 (ten years ago)
Ready for Nunnery
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 June 2015 19:28 (ten years ago)
I thought Nunn retired.
― Aimless, Friday, 12 June 2015 19:35 (ten years ago)
His liberal, labor-supporting, dove-ish ways live on in Morbs.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2015 19:37 (ten years ago)
http://d1.stern.de/bilder/stern_5/politik/2014/KW25/hillary-clinton-interview_n_fitwidth_489.jpg
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 June 2015 19:42 (ten years ago)
i don't understand what there is to celebrate. by not giving obama fast track (which, if the TPP was bad for workers doesn't mean he would get to push it through just that they vote on what he already put in or something like that) they also killed this program, which directly gives money to workers who were benefitting from trade. seems like the cost far outweighs the benefits...
― flopson, Friday, 12 June 2015 20:30 (ten years ago)
sorry, *workers who lost their jobs due to imports
"trade adjustment assistant" sounds like the most heinous euphemism
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 June 2015 20:30 (ten years ago)
how much workers training did NAFTA offer?
I think part of the reason they wanted fast track is because the actual legislation is so odious it will never pass once it gets openly debated in congress
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 June 2015 20:31 (ten years ago)
the Assistance for Workers bill was specifically tied to TPP in order to try and get it to pass.
I would expect it to be renewed separately before it expires in December.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)
like, there's no reason it can't be considered separately, attaching it to TPP was just some procedural bullshit to try and lure votes for TPP
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 20:35 (ten years ago)